Ron Paul articulates a strong pro-life message, among other things
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People forget that Ron Paul is very pro-life, but he also won't allow government to exceed it's constitutional limits.
His record is consistent, seeing as how he has voted against immoral killing in the form of the Iraq War and abortion.
People forget that Ron Paul is very pro-life, but he also won't allow government to exceed it's constitutional limits.
His record is consistent, seeing as how he has voted against immoral killing in the form of the Iraq War and abortion.
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It's ok to own a gun and "defend" yourself against a "criminal" but you think abortion and the Iraq war is immoral?
Maybe you think Ron Paul is consistent but from where I'm sitting you sure as hell aint so guess I'll blow this guy off as a waste of hot air.
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and the states' soverign right to make it's OWN law is ALSO a CONSTITUTIONAL right (we're talking about abortion and the right to make decisions about the legality thereof) also, remember that the RIGHT to LIFE is a CONSTITUTIONAL right.
That makes Ron Paul CONSISTENT.
you may not AGREE with it, but he IS being constitutionaly CONSISTENT.
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Who said anything about "letting" the criminal kill me?
And supposing he did I'd hardly call that suicide.
But then I have no problem with suicide either in that I believe it's a person's right to choose their own death should they feel inclined.
But then you don't really care about my life so I'm not really sure why you give a shit anyway.
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I dont think it is so much that people forget he is very pro-life as much as people dont give two shits.
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Exactly. That's why I like Paul. He may have his personal, moral beliefs about abortion, but those won't interfere with this belief that it is not the prerogative of the federal government to interfere.
I'm wondering if his stance on handing abortion legislation back to the states is actually as much about "personal freedom" as it is maybe more about divide and conquer.
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I feel sorry for you that you have such distrust for Dr. Ron Paul.
I distrust just about every politician currently on the scene ... but Mr. Paul seems to have distanced himself from nearly every one of those political figures. He stands on his own, far to the side (and many would say -- of in the shadows, on the fringe) ... supporting YOUR RIGHTS ...
your right to a CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT,
run as our founding fathers established it and intended for it to be run ...
the fact that he has delivered over 3,000 babies, and clearly has some personal compasion for infant and pre-infant life is not the marking of a ruthless psychofant who wants to "divide and conquer" ... he's actually trying to protect you and get YOUR RIGHTS back.
???
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He ain't doing jack for my rights Drifting coz Australia still has it's own government. Might not seem like it but at this point we haven't been sucked up completely by the American political machine.
No need to feel sorry for me and my rights. I can take care of them myself thanks.
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Hi Jeanie,
He's a constitutionalist. Our country was set up to be a federation of states. The federal government was never supposed to be the huge, monolithic moster it has become. We were never supposed to have a central command and control type of government. We were supposed to be a union of separate states. Some of us still believe that the federal government is the wrong place to address the needs of people. The federal government exists to provide for our common defense and regulate interstate commerce.
So hearing Paul say that an issue should be left to the states to decide really doesn't have to do with "divide and conquer" for him. It has to do with his (and my) understanding of the constitution and the intent of the founders.
Thank you Jeff.
Sometimes (ok, a LOT) i let my heart speak in front of my head ...
and it comes out sounding sensationalistic.
(maybe Alex Jones could use some help from me?)
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Hi jeff.
Thanks for that. A good explanation, which makes a lot more sense now.
I guess this is the first I've seen of the fella, because you know I'm on the other side of the world and all, and I have a natural suspicion of politicians anyway, so if it turns out that he's elected and his intent is the right of each individual then perhaps he's not so sinister. I guess only time will tell though right?
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Does it get any more sincere?
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I harbor no illusions. Ron Paul will not get the Republican nomination. I only hope that he jumps to a 3rd party if that's the case. Ron's been around for a long time. He ran for president as a Libertarian in the '88 election and I voted for him then, too.
Unfortunately 2008 will again be a choice between dumb and dumber. In 2008 I will again vote for none of the above when it comes to the major parties.
BTW, your natural suspcion of politicans is a healthy thing!
all this is true.......i wish for once i could vote for a candidate that has a snowballs chance in hell of winning....:(
unfortunately, jeff,
ron paul has openly stated with much candor that he has no plans to run as an independent if he does not get the republican nomination.
of course, we can only HOPE that he FLIP FLOPS on this issue.
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Well he does sound sincere. But I'm wondering how he's planning to achieve some of this stuff.
Is he even in the presidential race? And supposing he is and he gets elected, how does anyone shut down the big banks and get them to play nice?
Just musing.
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yes, he is at the TOP of the BOTTOM of the REPUBLICAN primaries right now.
Here is a poll i just viewed and voted on:
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Rudy Giuliani 54%
Mitt Romney 19%
John McCain 12%
Tommy Thompson 7%
Ron Paul 4%
Mike Huckabee 1%
Sam Brownback 1%
Tom Tancredo 1%
Duncan Hunter 1%
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Ron Paul is a constitutionalist.
Ron has never voted to raise taxes.
Ron has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
Ron has never voted for the Iraq War.
Ron has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
Ron has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
Ron has never voted to raise congressional pay.
Ron has never taken a government-paid junket.
Ron voted against the Patriot Act.
Ron votes against regulating the Internet.
R on voted against NAFTA and CAFTA.
Ron votes against the United Nations.
Ron votes against the welfare state.
Ron votes against reinstating a military draft.
Ron is PRO-LIFE
Ron votes to preserve the constitution.
Ron votes to cut government spending.
Ron votes to lower healthcare costs.
Ron votes to end the war on drugs.
Ron votes to protect civil liberties.
Ron votes to secure our borders with real immigration reform
He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to the U.S. treasury every year.
Congressman Paul introduces numerous pieces of substantive legislation each year, probably more than any single member of Congress.
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So potentially this guy has more power if he's not elected then?
I mean by that he would be more useful blocking things in parliament than actually leading it?
Think we have pretty much the same problem here at the moment. A choice between asshole and bigger asshole. Hence me not supporting the majors. I can't call them dumb and dumber because I suspect that they are both cunning. And cunning is a dangerous thing from the wrong people.
Guess I've watched Little Johnny for so long now, with his twists and turns and backflipping, and his endless support of George that I've grown more and more suspicious as the years have passed. Of course you only have to look at the crap that went on before Johnny to see that they're all little hand puppets in the end.
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So let me guess? You're a fan then Drifting?
Lotta reading to do here. I'll have to get back to you once I've waded through it, but he's sounding ok. Well ok for a politician. For now.
Don't be upset by my lack of commitment. I'm a fence sitter.
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Yes, well even for a fence sitter he's looking better than that motley crew!
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