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the 'wonderment' of childhood

gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
edited May 2007 in A Moving Train
i never reallly had a chance to get into this.

what was it like?

i mean, as soon as i could walk i knew there was no santa claus, and i knew that the penis went into the vagina.

what i want to know, what was it like not knowing those things. how was that development?
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    lol
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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I think I have more "wonderment" as an adult personally. So, no help here. :)
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    wolfbear wrote:
    I think I have more "wonderment" as an adult personally. So, no help here. :)

    I think I have that affect on you.

    LOL :)
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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    gue_barium wrote:
    I think I have that affect on you.

    LOL :)
    No, I was thinking of hiking in the woods or going to concerts, and how much more I appreciate and just notice more things in general as an adult. I really was trying to come up with a good answer for you and realized I couldn't. Good question though. Maybe I'm just too far removed. lol :D
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    I believed in Santa for forever...I mean a looong time. I remember arguing with my friends so passionately about it that they'd start rethinking their position! :p And my grandmother lived in the country and had lots of land, fields and wooded areas behind her house...me and my brother and sister would spend hours of every day other there exploring everything. We'd name certain clearings or interesting areas names like Never Land from Peter Pan, you get the idea. Everything seemed so wonderful and amazing back then...we couldn't wait to go out there every day. Around the time when my mother came back into my life when I was 11, was when all that started to fade. I can remember going back out there once I was older and feeling very let down like everything had disappeared. All I can say is if you have children love them and cherish every second you have with them, teach them how everything is possible and how they have limitless potential.....the difference it makes in their world is beyond measure.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I believed in Santa for forever...I mean a looong time. I remember arguing with my friends so passionately about it that they'd start rethinking their position! :p And my grandmother lived in the country and had lots of land, fields and wooded areas behind her house...me and my brother and sister would spend hours of every day other there exploring everything. We'd name certain clearings or interesting areas names like Never Land from Peter Pan, you get the idea. Everything seemed so wonderful and amazing back then...we couldn't wait to go out there every day. Around the time when my mother came back into my life when I was 11, was when all that started to fade. I can remember going back out there once I was older and feeling very let down like everything had disappeared. All I can say is if you have children love them and cherish every second you have with them, teach them how everything is possible and how they have limitless potential.....the difference it makes in their world is beyond measure.
    Awesome! Thanks for sharing, Abook. I love your sense of wonderment!

    My daughter has had a challenging life, and since she was about 13 to now, at age 24, she's been fairly "savvy" and world weary. And she's had anxiety problems to show for the awareness she has had. As a child she was so amazing, imaginative and full of vibrant energy.

    Lately, she's gone through a lot of changes, and I've been surprised to see that who she has been since age 13 is not who she really authentically was at all--instead that "persona" was the person who resulted from what's happened in her life. Lately she's been coming back to life, and opening her heart, and making huge changes. And it humbles me to see her peel back the layers, and unfold to more and more of who she is. Tonight, she told me that in the past few months, she started to unravel what happened when she changed from being a magical child, to becoming a heavy-hearted adult. From age 13 or so on, she started to lose her innocence, and feel, deep inside, due to the craziness of our lives, like she was a "screw-up" (her words). She was sensitive and internalized a lot of pain. But now, she's coming out the other side of that, and returning to her wholeness. That wholeness that remains in each one of us and that shows to varying degrees is sacred, and to be cherished. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • chaos345chaos345 Posts: 30
    gue_barium wrote:
    i never reallly had a chance to get into this.

    what was it like?

    i mean, as soon as i could walk i knew there was no santa claus, and i knew that the penis went into the vagina.

    what i want to know, what was it like not knowing those things. how was that development?

    I feel kind of the same way. People often think I'm crazy when I describe to them my feelings as a little kid about Jesus (granted, some may disagree with my assessment of that particular situation) or Santa Claus.

    I just kind of always assumed that things like that were nonsense. It was just common sense to me that childish things didn't exist, magic, etc...

    It's something to strive for, though.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    Awesome! Thanks for sharing, Abook. I love your sense of wonderment!

    My daughter has had a challenging life, and since she was about 13 to now, at age 24, she's been fairly "savvy" and world weary. And she's had anxiety problems to show for the awareness she has had. As a child she was so amazing, imaginative and full of vibrant energy.

    Lately, she's gone through a lot of changes, and I've been surprised to see that who she has been since age 13 is not who she really authentically was at all--instead that "persona" was the person who resulted from what's happened in her life. Lately she's been coming back to life, and opening her heart, and making huge changes. And it humbles me to see her peel back the layers, and unfold to more and more of who she is. Tonight, she told me that in the past few months, she started to unravel what happened when she changed from being a magical child, to becoming a heavy-hearted adult. From age 13 or so on, she started to lose her innocence, and feel, deep inside, due to the craziness of our lives, like she was a "screw-up" (her words). She was sensitive and internalized a lot of pain. But now, she's coming out the other side of that, and returning to her wholeness. That wholeness that remains in each one of us and that shows to varying degrees is sacred, and to be cherished. :)

    I'm glad to hear she's finding her back to herself. I feel, in many ways, that I'm doing the same thing...especailly these last few months. And it feels amazing...it feels like being free, so much weight is being lifted.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    This Ani Difranco poem kinds reminds of this thread...or actually the other way around. :)

    platforms

    life knocked me off my platforms
    so i pulled out my first pair of boots
    bought on the street at astor place
    before new york was run by suits
    and i suited up for the long walk
    back to myself
    closer to the ground now
    with sorrow
    and stealth
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I'm glad to hear she's finding her back to herself. I feel, in many ways, that I'm doing the same thing...especailly these last few months. And it feels amazing...it feels like being free, so much weight is being lifted.
    I'm seeing that about you too. And it's awesome to see. Again...humbling. And beautiful. :) It's influencing me, as well. It's very magical how such things are the opposite of limiting--growth is expanding and influences others.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • GRIMMYGRIMMY Posts: 370
    gue_barium wrote:
    i never reallly had a chance to get into this.

    what was it like?

    i mean, as soon as i could walk i knew there was no santa claus, and i knew that the penis went into the vagina.

    what i want to know, what was it like not knowing those things. how was that development?
    Penis goes into the vagina?....Fuck!! that what Im doing wrong
    grimmy
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    wolfbear wrote:
    I think I have more "wonderment" as an adult personally. So, no help here. :)



    lost my innocence
    my inner sense
    ;)



    i agree wolfie.......completely.
    i think the wonder and awe of childhood WAS there, but having no idea of it....my wonderment inb adulthood is far more profound, enjoyable....and truly amazing. that *awareness* of life, interconnectedness, and simply *being* at times......
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    I'm seeing that about you too. And it's awesome to see. Again...humbling. And beautiful. :) It's influencing me, as well. It's very magical how such things are the opposite of limiting--growth is expanding and influences others.

    :) Thank you...in so many ways.

    "There came a time when the risk to remain tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ~ Anais Nin
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    :) Thank you...in so many ways.

    "There came a time when the risk to remain tight in the bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom." ~ Anais Nin
    You are so welcome. That quote brings tears to my eyes. I hope you don't mind if it shows up on my myspace. :) I've not heard that before. Thank you. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    angelica wrote:
    You are so welcome. That quote brings tears to my eyes. I hope you don't mind if it shows up on my myspace. :) I've not heard that before. Thank you. :)

    I'd be flattered. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    All I can say is if you have children love them and cherish every second you have with them, teach them how everything is possible and how they have limitless potential.....the difference it makes in their world is beyond measure.

    absolutely beautiful, and so very true :D
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I remember arguing with my friends so passionately about it that they'd start rethinking their position! :p


    thats the abook we all know and love, always fighting for the good cause :)
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    gue_barium wrote:
    i never reallly had a chance to get into this.

    what was it like?

    i mean, as soon as i could walk i knew there was no santa claus, and i knew that the penis went into the vagina.

    what i want to know, what was it like not knowing those things. how was that development?


    now back to mr barium. is anyone else concerned about this guy? you have been posting some weird shit good friend, perhaps you should lay off the drinking for a while :cool:
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    I think I've always held childlike wonderment at the world and clung to many childish thoughts to a much later age than my peers.

    I can think of many things that I held to be true as a child, that I still get a kick out of now, but I won't be posting about them.

    This is the train after all.
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
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