“Shut your pie hole bitch ... Another lying liberal bitch ... Seditious cunt ... What would have been funny is if this crazy ho was to blow herself up on live TV ... YOU STINK you nasty CUNT! Eat Shit and DIE bitch!! ... Didn't you pose for Oriental Dolls magazine a couple of years ago? You look just like one of those little fuck sluts with her wide open legs and sloppy cunt - Oh no excuse me, that's your face ... Cindy is a communist whore ... Cindy Sheehan is a shameless bitch who needs to either a) shut up or b) be shot ... I hope the President continues to ignore the loony bitch ... This is one sick, liberal bitch! and beside that she's ugly ashell!! Propagandist Whore Cindy Sheehan--Her son is rolling in his grave at the disgust and hate for his Liberal whore mother and the way she has desecrated his memory ... Nice one, Sheehan you fucking douche ...
Alright, be honest now ... is there ANYONE who thinks this diatribe would have taken the same tone if MR. Sheehan were protesting? I just had to point out the appalling sexism in the criticism of a grieving mother.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Alright, be honest now ... is there ANYONE who thinks this diatribe would have taken the same tone if MR. Sheehan were protesting? I just had to point out the appalling sexism in the criticism of a grieving mother.
i agree, it's disgusting and childish. as much as i roll my eyes every time i see her name in the news, my stomach turns when assholes have to say shit like that. it's embarassing.
"PC Load Letter?! What the fuck does that mean?"
~Michael Bolton
I don't know man, I was witness to one of Sheehan's press conferences at the UW several months ago, and it looked like alligator tears to me. One minute she is talking about how Casey was never for this war (he reenlisted while serving in Iraq), while crying, and not a minute later after the cameras are turned off she is laughing it up with some friends or people she knew. It was so disingenuous. If she really wanted to honor her son maybe she shouldn't have waited more then a year to place a head stone at her son's grave.
I think you misunderstand how our soldiers think. My son-in-law has served in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He supported our mission in Afghanistan, and opposed Iraq, but he did what he was ordered to do in both cases. He is now in the reserves, and has considered re-enlisting. He has not changed his mind on Iraq ... if anything, he is more vehemently opposed than he was during his tour ... but he feels a sense of loyalty to the men under his command. He also has a low opinion of many of his comrades in arms and feels that the army is going to go no matter what he thinks, but that if he is there, he can prevent atrocities from taking place.
My opinion is that he shouldn't re-enlist. I think that every soldier who signs up lends legitimacy to this corrupt administration. But I can respect that my son-in-law holds a different point of view. But please, don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone who re-ups is a backer of this mission, because that is most assuredly not the case. And seeing as Ms. Sheehan knew her son better than you or I did, I'm willing to take her at her word.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
"Didn't you pose for Oriental Dolls magazine a couple of years ago? You look just like one of those little fuck sluts with her wide open legs and sloppy cunt - Oh no excuse me, that's your face."
I think you misunderstand how our soldiers think. My son-in-law has served in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He supported our mission in Afghanistan, and opposed Iraq, but he did what he was ordered to do in both cases. He is now in the reserves, and has considered re-enlisting. He has not changed his mind on Iraq ... if anything, he is more vehemently opposed than he was during his tour ... but he feels a sense of loyalty to the men under his command. He also has a low opinion of many of his comrades in arms and feels that the army is going to go no matter what he thinks, but that if he is there, he can prevent atrocities from taking place.
My opinion is that he shouldn't re-enlist. I think that every soldier who signs up lends legitimacy to this corrupt administration. But I can respect that my son-in-law holds a different point of view. But please, don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone who re-ups is a backer of this mission, because that is most assuredly not the case. And seeing as Ms. Sheehan knew her son better than you or I did, I'm willing to take her at her word.
I was the lone proteseter at a big anti-war convention at UW a few months back. Some of the people that approached me from the other side agreed with her disingenuine attitudes.
I think you misunderstand how our soldiers think. My son-in-law has served in both Afghanistan and Iraq. He supported our mission in Afghanistan, and opposed Iraq, but he did what he was ordered to do in both cases. He is now in the reserves, and has considered re-enlisting. He has not changed his mind on Iraq ... if anything, he is more vehemently opposed than he was during his tour ... but he feels a sense of loyalty to the men under his command. He also has a low opinion of many of his comrades in arms and feels that the army is going to go no matter what he thinks, but that if he is there, he can prevent atrocities from taking place.
My opinion is that he shouldn't re-enlist. I think that every soldier who signs up lends legitimacy to this corrupt administration. But I can respect that my son-in-law holds a different point of view. But please, don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone who re-ups is a backer of this mission, because that is most assuredly not the case. And seeing as Ms. Sheehan knew her son better than you or I did, I'm willing to take her at her word.
The problem with Cindy is she makes these speeches and says her son was so against the war. Why reenlist then? If you are so against something why continue to do it? Would Cindy, if she was in the army, reenlist, I highly doubt it.
Tell your son-in-law thanks for his service, it is appreciated.
I was the lone proteseter at a big anti-war convention at UW a few months back. Some of the people that approached me from the other side agreed with her disingenuine attitudes.
Let's give her some slack in this regard.
Once she made up her mind to protest the war on the grounds that it was illegal, she was approached by many, many anti-war advocates of all persuasions. Some were more political-minded than others and she absorbed some of the anti-war-speak, for good PR or bad, as an effective way to get the message across. She was alone, really. This is a middle-aged woman with no experience in Public Relations, or Protest and learning as she went. I think she's got the heart of a lioness, protecting her young, and her pride.
Let's give her some slack in this regard.
Once she made up her mind to protest the war on the grounds that it was illegal, she was approached by many, many anti-war advocates of all persuasions. Some were more political-minded than others and she absorbed some of the anti-war-speak, for good PR or bad, as an effective way to get the message across. She was alone, really. This is a middle-aged woman with no experience in Public Relations, or Protest and learning as she went. I think she's got the heart of a lioness, protecting her young, and her pride.
Didn't she cash in on a fat book deal? Her whole beef to begin with was not meeting the president at Crawford, but she had met him previously after her son was killed, it was only at Crawford when she was utilized as a tool and nothing more by hardcore leftists.
Don't be fooled man, everybody has an agenda. Everybody.
The problem with Cindy is she makes these speeches and says her son was so against the war. Why reenlist then? If you are so against something why continue to do it? Would Cindy, if she was in the army, reenlist, I highly doubt it.
Tell your son-in-law thanks for his service, it is appreciated.
I just explained one possible reason why. My son-in-law is 100% opposed to this war and despises Bush. He is considering re-enlisting because he feels bound to the men in his unit, and because he thinks he can make a positive difference if he is there. His reasoning is that the army will be there no matter what ... if he is there instead of some other soldier, he will be able to prevent atrocities from occurring ... atrocities that he witnessed when he was there, committed by men not under his command. He thinks that by his being there instead of someone else, lives may be saved.
I disagree with his view. My feeling is that if people stopped volunteering to fight this war, the war would stop, because a draft is not politically feasible. But I understand that I do not have his perspective, and I respect his knowledge. I understand that this is not for me to say. I understand that there are reasons other than support of the war that may cause a soldier to re-enlist. I did not know Casey Sheehan, neither did you ... Cindy Sheehan did.
"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
Didn't she cash in on a fat book deal? Her whole beef to begin with was not meeting the president at Crawford, but she had met him previously after her son was killed, it was only at Crawford when she was utilized as a tool and nothing more by hardcore leftists.
Don't be fooled man, everybody has an agenda. Everybody.
If everybody has an agenda, then why act so upset when she has one and works very hard towards it?
And if I could write a book I would, too. It beats the hell out of office work.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
The problem with Cindy is she makes these speeches and says her son was so against the war. Why reenlist then? If you are so against something why continue to do it? Would Cindy, if she was in the army, reenlist, I highly doubt it.
Tell your son-in-law thanks for his service, it is appreciated.
Take out the "be", I changed the sentence structure and forgot to remove it. You'll forgive the occasional typo on a message board. And grow up.
I do that ALL the time, too. I felt the need to quote you and put that out there because I've been doing it a lot tonight, especially. I'm sure people can piece together what the hell I'm babbling about and take something from it.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Umm, maybe cause she's utilizing her poor sons death to cash in. I guess I'm looking at it from a moral point of view, what was I thinking.
OR the death of her son may have been the motivation for her to finally speak out and stand up for what she believes in. You only say she's using her son in a ngative sense because you don't agree with her stance. I'm pretty sure you don't feel the same way about women who have lost children but still support the war and happen to write about it or speak publicly.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Standing up for what you believe in is cool, but getting arrested for it is bullshit.
Couldn't disagree with you more about this.
Don't know how I feel about Sheehan.. mostly I don't care whatsoever. But 9 times out of 10 effective civil disobedience is going to get you arrested. It's the nature of the game. Because in essence civil disobedience is the "civil" or peaceful breaking of a law. Look at the sit ins during the civil rights movement.
OR the death of her son may have been the motivation for her to finally speak out and stand up for what she believes in. You only say she's using her son in a ngative sense because you don't agree with her stance. I'm pretty sure you don't feel the same way about women who have lost children but still support the war and happen to write about it or speak publicly.
No it's not just because I support the war. She's shitting all over her sons memory. She's saying that he died for no reason, war is bad, bush lied, blood for oil and all the other standard leftist arguments.
I don't care what my familys political leanings are, if I died in Iraq I would appreciate it if my family didn't use me as a fuckin tool for their political agenda, fifteen minutes of fame or to cash in. The war supporters portray the service their kids were doing in a GOOD light, I mean it's the least they could do right?
this woman is a fucking idiot. sure, she has every right to protest her views of the war and the gov't, but everytime her and her posse shows up at a rally, they do something silly-- like blocking a driveway for instance-- because they know they'll get arrested and grab more headlines.
someone else called her a media whore earlier in this thread and i cant agree more.
You've been to Iraq. So surely you met plenty of American G.I's there who thought the war was bullshit. Right?
Everyone single one of my buddies over in Iraq believe they are doing a good thing. And yes, Sheehan is a media whore. Honestly, i actually think the media is starting to lose intrest in her because they know she's a crazy bitch.
Maybe her son inlisted (twice) to get the hell away from her.....
I read what Mom said, and I still disagree. If her son in law or anyone is so opposed to the war they should get out when they have a chance. If my friends were going to rob a bank or do some other illegal activity, I wouldn't join them just to make sure they were safe and because they were my friend.
If Hippiemom's son-in-law was really against the war and wanted to do something to stop it, there are lots of things he could have done, while not continuing to participate in this "illegal war". He should have ran for congress. He might have had a chance.
Oh and thanks for your smart ass comment, it was really great.
You've been to Iraq. So surely you met plenty of American G.I's there who thought the war was bullshit. Right?
I was there for the tail-end of the ground war and initial occuption, we were actually still looking for WMD then, so EVERYONE was still on board. I got out as soon as I redeployed, so I can't really say for the present, the guys I still talk to now that I'm out, continue to support it for humanitarian reasons.
I knew a guy who re-enlisted and reclassed as a bomb-tech because he would get physically sick of seeing kids missing limbs because of unexploded ordnance. No politics involved, if we weren't in Iraq he wouldn't have that access to equipment and the means to help people. Truly an amazing person.
I'd be lying if I said everyone I know thinks that way, one guy in particular is not happy with the war, but I think part of him is just bitter because he was married, had a kid and was "Stop-Lossed" for an entire year.
I was there for the tail-end of the ground war and initial occuption, we were actually still looking for WMD then, so EVERYONE was still on board. I got out as soon as I redeployed, so I can't really say for the present, the guys I still talk to now that I'm out, continue to support it for humanitarian reasons.
I knew a guy who re-enlisted and reclassed as a bomb-tech because he would get physically sick of seeing kids missing limbs because of unexploded ordnance. No politics involved, if we weren't in Iraq he wouldn't have that access to equipment and the means to help people. Truly an amazing person.
I'd be lying if I said everyone I know thinks that way, one guy in particular is not happy with the war, but I think part of him is just bitter because he was married, had a kid and was "Stop-Lossed" for an entire year.
No it's not just because I support the war. She's shitting all over her sons memory. She's saying that he died for no reason, war is bad, bush lied, blood for oil and all the other standard leftist arguments.
I don't care what my familys political leanings are, if I died in Iraq I would appreciate it if my family didn't use me as a fuckin tool for their political agenda, fifteen minutes of fame or to cash in. The war supporters portray the service their kids were doing in a GOOD light, I mean it's the least they could do right?
I agree 110%. If that was to happen to me, I pray my parents won't do the same thing.
So politicians can use the media to further their agendas and that's ok but if a private citizen does the same thing he/she is called a whore. I love the open minded thinking among some of my fellow citizens.
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Alright, be honest now ... is there ANYONE who thinks this diatribe would have taken the same tone if MR. Sheehan were protesting? I just had to point out the appalling sexism in the criticism of a grieving mother.
i agree, it's disgusting and childish. as much as i roll my eyes every time i see her name in the news, my stomach turns when assholes have to say shit like that. it's embarassing.
~Michael Bolton
My opinion is that he shouldn't re-enlist. I think that every soldier who signs up lends legitimacy to this corrupt administration. But I can respect that my son-in-law holds a different point of view. But please, don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone who re-ups is a backer of this mission, because that is most assuredly not the case. And seeing as Ms. Sheehan knew her son better than you or I did, I'm willing to take her at her word.
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That's good stuff!
Thank you.
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The problem with Cindy is she makes these speeches and says her son was so against the war. Why reenlist then? If you are so against something why continue to do it? Would Cindy, if she was in the army, reenlist, I highly doubt it.
Tell your son-in-law thanks for his service, it is appreciated.
Let's give her some slack in this regard.
Once she made up her mind to protest the war on the grounds that it was illegal, she was approached by many, many anti-war advocates of all persuasions. Some were more political-minded than others and she absorbed some of the anti-war-speak, for good PR or bad, as an effective way to get the message across. She was alone, really. This is a middle-aged woman with no experience in Public Relations, or Protest and learning as she went. I think she's got the heart of a lioness, protecting her young, and her pride.
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Didn't she cash in on a fat book deal? Her whole beef to begin with was not meeting the president at Crawford, but she had met him previously after her son was killed, it was only at Crawford when she was utilized as a tool and nothing more by hardcore leftists.
Don't be fooled man, everybody has an agenda. Everybody.
I disagree with his view. My feeling is that if people stopped volunteering to fight this war, the war would stop, because a draft is not politically feasible. But I understand that I do not have his perspective, and I respect his knowledge. I understand that this is not for me to say. I understand that there are reasons other than support of the war that may cause a soldier to re-enlist. I did not know Casey Sheehan, neither did you ... Cindy Sheehan did.
simple really. your part of a team, you dont want to let your mates down.
If everybody has an agenda, then why act so upset when she has one and works very hard towards it?
And if I could write a book I would, too. It beats the hell out of office work.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Nothing like not reading, is there?
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I do that ALL the time, too. I felt the need to quote you and put that out there because I've been doing it a lot tonight, especially.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
probably a combination of the two
Umm, maybe cause she's utilizing her poor sons death to cash in. I guess I'm looking at it from a moral point of view, what was I thinking.
OR the death of her son may have been the motivation for her to finally speak out and stand up for what she believes in. You only say she's using her son in a ngative sense because you don't agree with her stance. I'm pretty sure you don't feel the same way about women who have lost children but still support the war and happen to write about it or speak publicly.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Don't know how I feel about Sheehan.. mostly I don't care whatsoever. But 9 times out of 10 effective civil disobedience is going to get you arrested. It's the nature of the game. Because in essence civil disobedience is the "civil" or peaceful breaking of a law. Look at the sit ins during the civil rights movement.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
No it's not just because I support the war. She's shitting all over her sons memory. She's saying that he died for no reason, war is bad, bush lied, blood for oil and all the other standard leftist arguments.
I don't care what my familys political leanings are, if I died in Iraq I would appreciate it if my family didn't use me as a fuckin tool for their political agenda, fifteen minutes of fame or to cash in. The war supporters portray the service their kids were doing in a GOOD light, I mean it's the least they could do right?
someone else called her a media whore earlier in this thread and i cant agree more.
That's because they're war supporters.
You've been to Iraq. So surely you met plenty of American G.I's there who thought the war was bullshit. Right?
Everyone single one of my buddies over in Iraq believe they are doing a good thing. And yes, Sheehan is a media whore. Honestly, i actually think the media is starting to lose intrest in her because they know she's a crazy bitch.
Maybe her son inlisted (twice) to get the hell away from her.....
I read what Mom said, and I still disagree. If her son in law or anyone is so opposed to the war they should get out when they have a chance. If my friends were going to rob a bank or do some other illegal activity, I wouldn't join them just to make sure they were safe and because they were my friend.
If Hippiemom's son-in-law was really against the war and wanted to do something to stop it, there are lots of things he could have done, while not continuing to participate in this "illegal war". He should have ran for congress. He might have had a chance.
Oh and thanks for your smart ass comment, it was really great.
I was there for the tail-end of the ground war and initial occuption, we were actually still looking for WMD then, so EVERYONE was still on board. I got out as soon as I redeployed, so I can't really say for the present, the guys I still talk to now that I'm out, continue to support it for humanitarian reasons.
I knew a guy who re-enlisted and reclassed as a bomb-tech because he would get physically sick of seeing kids missing limbs because of unexploded ordnance. No politics involved, if we weren't in Iraq he wouldn't have that access to equipment and the means to help people. Truly an amazing person.
I'd be lying if I said everyone I know thinks that way, one guy in particular is not happy with the war, but I think part of him is just bitter because he was married, had a kid and was "Stop-Lossed" for an entire year.
Fair do's.
are you fucking for real?! what was in the sig that warrented complaint, and then an edit without permission?
I agree 110%. If that was to happen to me, I pray my parents won't do the same thing.