London gets oil aid from Venezuela

gue_barium
gue_barium Posts: 5,515
edited February 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/news.php?newsno=2223

Venezuela’s Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro and London’s Mayor Ken Livingstone signed an agreement yesterday according to which Venezuela would provide discounted diesel fuel in exchange for advice on public transportation, environmental protection, tourism, and city planning.

According to the deal, which Chavez had promised in mid 2006 while he was visiting London, Venezuela’s state-owned oil company will provide 50 million liters of diesel at a 20% discount for its fleet of 8,000 buses. The deal will allow the city of London to provide 250,000 Londoners half-price bus tickets.

Livingstone said of the agreement, “This agreement will benefit up to a quarter of a million of the lowest income Londoners. Those on income support will be eligible to receive half price bus and tram travel – a benefit worth at least the equivalent of £280 a year.”

It remains to be seen, but I think Londoners got by far the better end of this deal.
It's probably unrelated, but interesting timing, too, with the Brits pulling the troops out of Iraq.
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  • Last Exodus
    Last Exodus Posts: 782
    Smart man...Divide and conquer...
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Smart man...Divide and conquer...

    I'm not seeing what you're seeing. It seems like a very sorry trade for Venezuela.
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  • Arctangent
    Arctangent Posts: 614
    ken livingstone is a cunt! of the highest order.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Last Exodus wrote:
    Smart man...Divide and conquer...

    Only if people like the British are dumb enough to let him get away with it.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Only if people like the British are dumb enough to let him get away with it.

    Are dumd enough to let who get away with what? What's anyone getting away with that upsets you so much?
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Arctangent wrote:
    ken livingstone is a cunt! of the highest order.

    Please elaborate. Do you live in England?
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Hehe....go Hugo. Burn that oil! He's my favorite international trust-fund baby.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Are dumd enough to let who get away with what? What's anyone getting away with that upsets you so much?

    Where did I say I was that upset? I just don't think that Britain needs to make special deals with Chavez. Everyone slams the U.S. for cozying up to dictators in central/South America, and Britain shouldn't do it either.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Where did I say I was that upset? I just don't think that Britain needs to make special deals with Chavez. Everyone slams the U.S. for cozying up to dictators in central/South America, and Britain shouldn't do it either.

    Dictator? He won a democratic election.
    Oh! But he's a Democratically elected leader that seeks independence from U.S hegemony, so he's therefore a 'dictator'! I see!
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Dictator? He won a democratic election.
    Oh! But he's a Democratically elected leader that seeks independence from U.S hegemony, so he's therefore a 'dictator'! I see!

    How many other dictators have supposedly won democratic elections as well? And no, you don't see, because you basically pay no attention to Chavez's human rights record, which completely sucks. All you see is the fight against "hegemony" or whatever buzzword you want to use.
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Dictator? He won a democratic election.
    Oh! But he's a Democratically elected leader that seeks independence from U.S hegemony, so he's therefore a 'dictator'! I see!

    The line between a dictator and a leader is not defined by an election. It is defined by whether or not that person commands with guns or commands with respect. Chavez is quickly abandoning the latter for the former.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    We need the one young lady, who posts on this board, to explain to us the situation in Ven. as she is from that reigon....she does not paint a pretty picture. She sent me some links in the past showing conditions and that such......
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    reborncareerist wrote:
    And no, you don't see, because you basically pay no attention to Chavez's human rights record, which completely sucks.

    Please provide some evidence.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    We need the one young lady, who posts on this board, to explain to us the situation in Ven. as she is from that reigon....she does not paint a pretty picture. She sent me some links in the past showing conditions and that such......

    And in response to her post i supplied links to statistics which showed how the standard of living for the poor in that country had risen dramatically under Chavez.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Please provide some evidence.


    http://www.amnestyusa.org/countries/venezuela/index.do

    And its even from a source that shares your views on Israel!
  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And in response to her post i supplied links to statistics which showed how the standard of living for the poor in that country had risen dramatically under Chavez.

    The standard of living for any thief will rise until he or she runs out of things to steal or until those around them adopt their tactics.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And in response to her post i supplied links to statistics which showed how the standard of living for the poor in that country had risen dramatically under Chavez.

    So a police state is worth the price of restricted freedom and constant human rights violations? Maybe that's where you and I differ.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And in response to her post i supplied links to statistics which showed how the standard of living for the poor in that country had risen dramatically under Chavez.

    Yes. However I still found the state of the country to be delporable...someone help me here....was Hugo spouting off about trying to become the President for life or am I just hearing voices in my head again...postive I read it in multiple sources of differing politcal agenda....
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    Yes. However I still found the state of the country to be delporable...someone help me here....was Hugo spouting off about trying to become the President for life or am I just hearing voices in my head again...postive I read it in multiple sources of differing politcal agenda....

    No, that's pretty much common knowledge in Venezuela. He has himself cast as some Socialist folk hero who deserves to be in charge by dint of having the peoples' best interests in mind. Hmmm, where have we seen that sort of approach before? You complain, and you can expect imprisonment and torture. You tow the line, and then apparently you can sit back and enjoy the utopia.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Byrnzie wrote:
    And in response to her post i supplied links to statistics which showed how the standard of living for the poor in that country had risen dramatically under Chavez.

    amazing how you continually bash the US but sing the praises of some asshole like chavez ...


    and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

    and Osama bin laden

    and hamas


    well you get the point

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