Stupid In America

sapperskunk
sapperskunk Posts: 684
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
Has anybody seen this, it's scary. What's gonna happen to the future of the US, if our kids don't know jack shit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfRUMmTs0ZA
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Well if kids in America are so stupid what does that say for other countires who can't beat the US in business.
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
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  • surferdude wrote:
    Well if kids in America are so stupid what does that say for other countires who can't beat the US in business.

    The video I think is designed to show the horrors of our education system. And why teacher unions are getting way out of hand.
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    I think this has been the case for years. I was considered 'advanced' in my grade school and I was in this 'advanced' algebra class in 8th grade. We got a foreign exchange student from Sweden. As advanced as I thought I was, she crushed me. She didn't show up at school until around 11, because she had to go to Geometry and Algebra II class at the high school.

    I don't think it necessarily takes 'book' smarts to be successful in the american business world. I takes a different kind of 'smarts'. I do think we have some work to do to compete academically with other countries.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

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    ~Albert Einstein
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    Being successful in the US business world is a matter of having white skin and knowing whose ass to kiss.
  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    I've watched about 15 minutes and the same question keeps running through my head - what about the parents? Take the 18 year old who can't read. His mother keeps blaming the schools. But what did she do? When he was 10, did you notice he couldn't read? What action did you take to make sure your son could read? The school can't do it all.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    sponger wrote:
    Being successful in the US business world is a matter of having white skin and knowing whose ass to kiss.

    being successful in the world of capitalism is finding your niche. it doesn't have to be in business :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    cutback wrote:
    I've watched about 15 minutes and the same question keeps running through my head - what about the parents? Take the 18 year old who can't read. His mother keeps blaming the schools. But what did she do? When he was 10, did you notice he couldn't read? What action did you take to make sure your son could read? The school can't do it all.

    This is absolutely true. It's not the teacher's job to babysit american youth, only to teach them. Parents should be just as much if not more responsible for how much their children are learning in schools. When I was a kid, my parents would have beaten me into unconsciousness if I skipped homework or screwed off in class.

    The flip-side to that is that my parents worked 40 hr weeks and had the time to beat me unconsciousness. I don't think the same can be said for most parents these days. They work double shifts to keep up with the insane cost of living.

    This cost of living is being skewed out of control by widening gap between the social classes. This gap is partly the restult of slave labor being brought over the southern border.

    So, the declining performance of US students is really a matter of illegal immigration and the promotion of that illegal immigration by greedy US business owners.
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    being successful in the world of capitalism is finding your niche. it doesn't have to be in business :)

    Some niches are narrower than others. If your skin pigmentation is of the pale sort, and if your ass-kissing skills are in good shape, then there are big fat niches waiting to be plugged.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    sponger wrote:
    This is absolutely true. It's not the teacher's job to babysit american youth, only to teach them. Parents should be just as much if not more responsible for how much their children are learning in schools. When I was a kid, my parents would have beaten me into unconsciousness if I skipped homework or screwed off in class.

    The flip-side to that is that my parents worked 40 hr weeks and had the time to beat me unconsciousness. I don't think the same can be said for most parents these days. They work double shifts to keep up with the insane cost of living.

    This cost of living is being skewed out of control by widening gap between the social classes. This gap is partly the restult of slave labor being brought over the southern border.

    So, the declining performance of US students is really a matter of illegal immigration and the promotion of that illegal immigration by greedy US business owners.


    I like your first two paragraphs, and agree.

    the last two..I think you kind of flipped your lid. first, there is no widening gap between the social classes...we currently live in the most prosperous civilization in human history, in the U.S.

    the declining performance of US studens has nothing to do with illegal immigrants, it has everything to do with pc policies put forth by teachers unions.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • IlovveePJ
    IlovveePJ Posts: 145
    I'm an American kid, and I am not stupid. I am very intelligent.....
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    sponger wrote:
    Some niches are narrower than others. If your skin pigmentation is of the pale sort, and if your ass-kissing skills are in good shape, then there are big fat niches waiting to be plugged.

    your skin color? that card has become pathetic. and the ass-kissing thing, seriously, i think you're smarter than that, figure it out :)
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    I like your first two paragraphs, and agree.

    the last two..I think you kind of flipped your lid. first, there is no widening gap between the social classes...we currently live in the most prosperous civilization in human history, in the U.S.

    the declining performance of US studens has nothing to do with illegal immigrants, it has everything to do with pc policies put forth by teachers unions.


    When the statistics say that it costs $41K/yr for a single person to live on his own while minimum wage is $6.75/hr, I'd say there is a gap.

    When the amount of hours adults have been working per week have been steadily increasing over the last 10 years, I'd say there is a gap.

    When only 10% of Californians can afford to own a home, I'd say there is a gap.

    We live in the most prosperous nation because the businesses at the base of that nation have been able to expand to epic proportions with the help of slave labor.

    New York, the country's greatest metropolis, was built on slave labor. The south was built on slave labor. We are headed for another Romanesque economy, if it isn't already here.
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    your skin color? that card has become pathetic. and the ass-kissing thing, seriously, i think you're smarter than that, figure it out :)

    Actually, I used to be dumber than that. I used to believe that this country observed equality on every level. I used to think that racism only existed in 1950's Alabama.

    But, business is the least objective industry there is. This is because once the groundwork for a business's hierarchy has been laid down, it becomes a self-governing machine that merely has to follow a pre-determined order of operations to remain afloat.

    The people who oversee those operations are left to decide who gets to sit in the driver's seat and who doesn't.

    The mind is a simple and generally misunderstood mechanism designed for the purpose of self-preservation. Everybody is racist, including myself. I don't go around calling people derogatory names, but I fight the temptation on the daily basis.

    How is the General Office manager of XYZ company any different? How is the small business loan officer at XYZ bank any different?

    In the world of business, it is all too easy to allow the subconscious and often misunderstood subjectivity of the human mind to influence decisions that are crucial to the future of employees who are affected by those decisions.

    To ignore that is to not be smarter than that.
  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    sponger wrote:
    When the statistics say that it costs $41K/yr for a single person to live on his own while minimum wage is $6.75/hr, I'd say there is a gap.

    When the amount of hours adults have been working per week have been steadily increasing over the last 10 years, I'd say there is a gap.

    When only 10% of Californians can afford to own a home, I'd say there is a gap.

    We live in the most prosperous nation because the businesses at the base of that nation have been able to expand to epic proportions with the help of slave labor.

    New York, the country's greatest metropolis, was built on slave labor. The south was built on slave labor. We are headed for another Romanesque economy, if it isn't already here.

    what is the median HOUSEHOLD income of people earning the minimum wage? it's 48K. because breadwinners don't earn the minimum wage. like most liberal arguments, it's more about emotion than actual reality.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    what is the median HOUSEHOLD income of people earning the minimum wage? it's 48K. because breadwinners don't earn the minimum wage. like most liberal arguments, it's more about emotion than actual reality.

    Household income includes everyone in the home, so this means multiple incomes being included in that 48K.

    And if a single person's income is required to be 41K, then we're talking a 7K/yr difference from a household that is bringing in multiple income.

    Additionally, that 48K includes other various incomes such as unemployment, disability...etc. However, even though those incomes are included in the 48K, the persons who are bringing in that income are not counted as wage earners.
  • IlovveePJ wrote:
    I'm an American kid, and I am not stupid. I am very intelligent.....


    I'm sure you are a very bright young person, BUT, how do you stack up against the rest of the world?
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  • IlovveePJ
    IlovveePJ Posts: 145
    I'm sure you are a very bright young person, BUT, how do you stack up against the rest of the world?


    I would say quite positively! haha (:
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    Lollapalooza. 8.5.07 West Palm Beach. 6.11.08 Bonnaroo. 6.14.08
    Hartford. Mansfield.

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  • ONCE DEVIDED
    ONCE DEVIDED Posts: 1,131
    A lady at the start complained her 18 year old cant read. I wonder if she ever read to him, encouraged him to read at home etc.
    its the parents responsablity to make their kids learn, not teachers. teacher only give the tools.
    AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
  • sponger
    sponger Posts: 3,159
    Speaking of US education levels in terms of their impact on the US economy, here is what former Secretary of Commerce Mickey Kantor had to say about it:
    "A more serious long-term problem, he said, has been the decline in the American public education system, especially in math and science."

    "Last year Intel held science fairs in the United States. And there were 65,000 young people who attended them. Do you know how many young people attended science fairs in China last year? How many kids showed up? About six million. Six million!"

    http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=25322
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    sponger wrote:
    Speaking of US education levels in terms of their impact on the US economy, here is what former Secretary of Commerce Mickey Kantor had to say about it:



    http://www.international.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=25322


    Whats China's population again?
    Why go home

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