Hobbes or Locke?
Eireannach
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If you ask me they're both fucking wrong
The first man having enclosed a piece of ground saying‘This is mine’finding people simple enough to believe him was the founder ofsociety.From howmany wars and murders might not anyone have saved mankind by pulling up the stakes and cryingBeware of this impostor the fruits of the earth belong to all
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If it aint Locke than it aint good. Proportional punishment, everyones equal in the eyes of god etc etc. Our founding fathers loved the guy, you should too.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
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"Make our day"
I think he or she is Irish.
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You sleep strait through US History?
He... John.. :rolleyes:
Think you may be right about the Irish thing.. more likely English though.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
Eireannach.
And I never had US History but I had psychology.
And Eireannach is a she.
And John is a nice name for a girl too:D
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You never had US history? You must be a foreigner..?
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
Nah, I'd go with Locke just kidding.
-Enoch Powell
"All wealth is the product of labor."
"To love our neighbor as ourselves is such a truth for regulating human society, that by that alone one might determine all the cases in social morality."
-John Locke
Hobbes is a bitch....
‘The first man who, having enclosed a piece of ground, bethought himself of saying ‘This is mine’. And found people simple enough to believe him, was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not anyone have saved mankind by pulling up the stakes or filling up the ditch and crying to his fellows; ‘Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself belongs to nobody’ (DI: 84)
good old rousseau
The rich invented the state to protect their property and the consequences were dire:
“All ran towards their chains believing that they were securing their liberty”
“Such was, or must have been, the origin of society and of laws which put fetters on the weak and gave new powers to the rich, which irretrievably destroyed natural liberty, established for all time the law of property and inequality, transformed adroit usurpation into irrevokable right and for the benefit of a few ambitious men subjected the human race thenceforth to labour, servitude and misery”
to dust i guess,
forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
Get some Rolaids....
Ehm, what is it you ask really? Perhaps some examples of both to show how you think they are so wrong. Or maybe what aspects of their theories you have problems with, as both has written a lot on many subjects.
Enlighten me on this first, and I will say what I mean about it.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
nah,.. beer should do the trick,....
but thanks for looking out
to dust i guess,
forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..