Is there a problem with that outlet for you now, as well.
I think I'm seeing a pattern here: Anything that includes criticism against Obama is automatically discredited in your mind. How objective of you.
Well, the mainstream media will be pleased now, won't they?
Walking can be a real trip
***********************
"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
***********************
Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Is there a problem with that outlet for you now, as well.
I think I'm seeing a pattern here: Anything that includes criticism against Obama is automatically discredited in your mind. How objective of you.
yeah, it's not as good as the official obama site she loves to use as her top source, cos ya know that's the only place one will find unbiased facts on obama!!! like duuuuuuuuuh, abook why would you think dandelion salad, which uses various sources and compiles them could even hope to compare to obama's site or his autobiographies??
and i don't even see 13 zmag articles a week, rarely even 1 let alone 1300, but however they gotta spin it to avoid confronting actual points....
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
But you guys always seem to be MIA. It's a shame really.
i don't see it as a shame. i've been mia from the board because i've actually been spending my nights and weekends outside of my fulltime job canvassing, phonebanking, and organizing events for senator obama. seems to have helped make a difference!
and i know i'm not alone here.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
Pandering to special interest has sparked plenty of good discusisons here, as well. But you guys always seem to be MIA. It's a shame really.
Yes, a real shame. Heaven forbid, there were TWO LESS people on the internet cutting and pasting fifteen page articles and youtube videos onto a rock band's message board. I can't think of anything more useful to do.
"Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
i don't see it as a shame. i've been mia from the board because i've actually been spending my nights and weekends outside of my fulltime job canvassing, phonebanking, and organizing events for senator obama. seems to have helped make a difference!
and i know i'm not alone here.
That is admirable but coming on here just to be pissy instead of engaging in actual discussion is what I have a problem with....not any of your volunteer work.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Yes, a real shame. Heaven forbid, there were TWO LESS people on the internet cutting and pasting fifteen page articles and youtube videos onto a rock band's message board. I can't think of anything more useful to do.
Spreading information isn't a bad thing...just so you know. Apparently Obama's campaign knows this and uses this to their advantage all the time. But let me guess....it's just different when it's pro Obama stuff, his campaign staffers and pro Obama bloggers. Yeah.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
yeah, it's not as good as the official obama site she loves to use as her top source, cos ya know that's the only place one will find unbiased facts on obama!!! like duuuuuuuuuh, abook why would you think dandelion salad, which uses various sources and compiles them could even hope to compare to obama's site or his autobiographies??
and i don't even see 13 zmag articles a week, rarely even 1 let alone 1300, but however they gotta spin it to avoid confronting actual points....
Oh what was I thinking?!! The audacity!!
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That is admirable but coming on here just to be pissy instead of engaging in actual discussion is what I have a problem with....not any of your volunteer work.
oh i'm not pissy for sure. in fact i have tears from laughing so hard. maybe if you have a problem with it then you shouldn't engage in this. or is this your board now?
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
Well, the mainstream media will be pleased now, won't they?
I know.
Wah wah wah....people are passing along information that I disagree with *pouts* and I just wanna bitch and moan about it instead of offering a reasonable rebuttal.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
i don't see it as a shame. i've been mia from the board because i've actually been spending my nights and weekends outside of my fulltime job canvassing, phonebanking, and organizing events for senator obama. seems to have helped make a difference!
Yes, a real shame. Heaven forbid, there were TWO LESS people on the internet cutting and pasting fifteen page articles and youtube videos onto a rock band's message board. I can't think of anything more useful to do.
yeah, it's much better to use your time bringing nothing but snide remarks to the table. why bother saying anything that contains any substance?
who copies and pastes 15 page articles here? oh, i get it, you guys are making things up again in the vain attempt to appear you have points.
like, OMG, did you just copy and paste information to prove your point?? ohhhhhhh, i see, it's pro-obama so you 2 don't have any problems w/ that site.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
i don't see it as a shame. i've been mia from the board because i've actually been spending my nights and weekends outside of my fulltime job canvassing, phonebanking, and organizing events for senator obama. seems to have helped make a difference!
and i know i'm not alone here.
That week in Iowa was cold, but amazingly rewarding. Giving up a bunch of Saturdays to call people in Illinois, South Carolina, North Dakota, and Oregon(!) was great, too. The day trip to Indiana was nice. Good weather.
I have to make a confession. I'm looking at the Nader website, and I'm seeing SO FUCKING MANY WAYS TO PUT WORDS INTO ACTION. I can sign up to go on a road trip and gather signatures that will get Ralph on the ballot in various states. I can refer other like-minded folks for road trips. I can apply for a volunteer position or a paid staff job with the campaign. It's obviously a sacrifice, but if I were really committed to his candidacy, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because nothing is better for democracy than active participation. Anything less is just talk. Or cut & paste.
speaking of cutty pasty, for anyone who wants to take the leap:
That week in Iowa was cold, but amazingly rewarding. Giving up a bunch of Saturdays to call people in Illinois, South Carolina, North Dakota, and Oregon(!) was great, too. The day trip to Indiana was nice. Good weather.
I have to make a confession. I'm looking at the Nader website, and I'm seeing SO FUCKING MANY WAYS TO PUT WORDS INTO ACTION. I can sign up to go on a road trip and gather signatures that will get Ralph on the ballot in various states. I can refer other like-minded folks for road trips. I can apply for a volunteer position or a paid staff job with the campaign. It's obviously a sacrifice, but if I were really committed to his candidacy, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because nothing is better for democracy than active participation. Anything less is just talk. Or cut & paste.
speaking of cutty pasty, for anyone who wants to take the leap:
we have been collecting signatures and volunteered....you were saying?
how are those assumptions of yours working out for ya?
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
yeah, it's not as good as the official obama site she loves to use as her top source, cos ya know that's the only place one will find unbiased facts on obama!!! like duuuuuuuuuh, abook why would you think dandelion salad, which uses various sources and compiles them could even hope to compare to obama's site or his autobiographies??
and i don't even see 13 zmag articles a week, rarely even 1 let alone 1300, but however they gotta spin it to avoid confronting actual points....
well i did post obama's blueprint for change in response to queries about his actual plans, yes. you wanted details (and not just the word 'change') and i gave you details.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
like, OMG, did you just copy and paste information to prove your point?? ohhhhhhh, i see, it's pro-obama so you 2 don't have any problems w/ that site.
a source was requested. pro-obama? they were exit poll numbers.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
That week in Iowa was cold, but amazingly rewarding. Giving up a bunch of Saturdays to call people in Illinois, South Carolina, North Dakota, and Oregon(!) was great, too. The day trip to Indiana was nice. Good weather.
I have to make a confession. I'm looking at the Nader website, and I'm seeing SO FUCKING MANY WAYS TO PUT WORDS INTO ACTION. I can sign up to go on a road trip and gather signatures that will get Ralph on the ballot in various states. I can refer other like-minded folks for road trips. I can apply for a volunteer position or a paid staff job with the campaign. It's obviously a sacrifice, but if I were really committed to his candidacy, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because nothing is better for democracy than active participation. Anything less is just talk. Or cut & paste.
speaking of cutty pasty, for anyone who wants to take the leap:
we have been collecting signatures and volunteered....you were saying?
how are those assumptions of yours working out for ya?
I sincerely congratulate you on your volunteer work. Kudos. Huzzahs. Mazeltovs. That's the point I've been trying to make here.
You have to be nice to me now. A certified Obamatard just gave Ralph Nader an unsolicited plug on a popular website, without one single 'pissy' word about his candidacy.
"Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
I sincerely congratulate you on your volunteer work. Kudos. Huzzahs. Mazeltovs. That's the point I've been trying to make here.
You have to be nice to me now. A certified Obamatard just gave Ralph Nader an unsolicited plug on a popular website, without one single 'pissy' word about his candidacy.
I for one will be the first to say holyfuckingshit that was awesome of you. Thanks we need the help.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
well i did post obama's blueprint for change in response to queries about his actual plans, yes. you wanted details (and not just the word 'change') and i gave you details.
you also used his official site to try and debunk the original post in this thread of mine
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I sincerely congratulate you on your volunteer work. Kudos. Huzzahs. Mazeltovs. That's the point I've been trying to make here.
You have to be nice to me now. A certified Obamatard just gave Ralph Nader an unsolicited plug on a popular website, without one single 'pissy' word about his candidacy.
am i ever mean to you?
thank you
and our state coordinator informed us monday we had to halt our petition collecting b/c the size of paper that is permissible for the signatures to be valid is in dispute...it has to be 1 certain size. so some of the signatures already collected are to be thrown out...b/c the paper was the wrong size....how democratic
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
But the point of your link was to back your pro-Obama point of people being racists that didn't vote for him.
that wasn't my point at all. first, i don't think it's too pro-obama to be racist. second, i never said all people who don't vote for him are racists. i said 1 out of 5 who voted in the dem primary in west virginia based their votes on race.
if you wanna be a friend of mine
cross the river to the eastside
that wasn't my point at all. first, i don't think it's too pro-obama to be racist. second, i never said all people who don't vote for him are racists. i said 1 out of 5 who voted in the dem primary in west virginia based their votes on race.
20% then
And it's not pro-obama to be racist but that's not your point. Your point is that he lost because of these racist voters not because Hillary deserved it in these states.
But maybe we can get b-list actor Kal Penn to get out there and campaign in these states for the general and show those 'dixie' states the error of their racist ways.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
And it's not pro-obama to be racist but that's not your point. Your point is that he lost because of these racist voters not because Hillary deserved it in these states.
But maybe we can get b-list actor Kal Penn to get out there and campaign in these states for the general and show those 'dixie' states the error of their racist ways.
kal penn is a legitimate box office draw with a lifetime gross of: $379,105,237.
yes, b-list.
I can't decide which of his films I like best.... Van Wilder 2, Malibu's Most Wanted or Epic Movie. But yes, those films do make a ton of money...go figure.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I can't decide which of his films I like best.... Van Wilder 2, Malibu's Most Wanted or Epic Movie. But yes, those films do make a ton of money...go figure.
It's official, I'm going with Malibu's Most Wanted
Comments
sources? or are these numbers just your opinion?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Is there a problem with that outlet for you now, as well.
I think I'm seeing a pattern here: Anything that includes criticism against Obama is automatically discredited in your mind. How objective of you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Well, the mainstream media will be pleased now, won't they?
***********************
"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
***********************
Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
yeah, it's not as good as the official obama site she loves to use as her top source, cos ya know that's the only place one will find unbiased facts on obama!!! like duuuuuuuuuh, abook why would you think dandelion salad, which uses various sources and compiles them could even hope to compare to obama's site or his autobiographies??
and i don't even see 13 zmag articles a week, rarely even 1 let alone 1300, but however they gotta spin it to avoid confronting actual points....
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
i don't see it as a shame. i've been mia from the board because i've actually been spending my nights and weekends outside of my fulltime job canvassing, phonebanking, and organizing events for senator obama. seems to have helped make a difference!
and i know i'm not alone here.
cross the river to the eastside
Yes, a real shame. Heaven forbid, there were TWO LESS people on the internet cutting and pasting fifteen page articles and youtube videos onto a rock band's message board. I can't think of anything more useful to do.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/njonline/no_20080514_1283.php
cross the river to the eastside
That is admirable but coming on here just to be pissy instead of engaging in actual discussion is what I have a problem with....not any of your volunteer work.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Spreading information isn't a bad thing...just so you know. Apparently Obama's campaign knows this and uses this to their advantage all the time. But let me guess....it's just different when it's pro Obama stuff, his campaign staffers and pro Obama bloggers. Yeah.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Oh what was I thinking?!! The audacity!!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
oh i'm not pissy for sure. in fact i have tears from laughing so hard. maybe if you have a problem with it then you shouldn't engage in this. or is this your board now?
cross the river to the eastside
I know.
Wah wah wah....people are passing along information that I disagree with *pouts* and I just wanna bitch and moan about it instead of offering a reasonable rebuttal.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
yeah, it's much better to use your time bringing nothing but snide remarks to the table. why bother saying anything that contains any substance?
who copies and pastes 15 page articles here? oh, i get it, you guys are making things up again in the vain attempt to appear you have points.
like, OMG, did you just copy and paste information to prove your point?? ohhhhhhh, i see, it's pro-obama so you 2 don't have any problems w/ that site.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
That week in Iowa was cold, but amazingly rewarding. Giving up a bunch of Saturdays to call people in Illinois, South Carolina, North Dakota, and Oregon(!) was great, too. The day trip to Indiana was nice. Good weather.
I have to make a confession. I'm looking at the Nader website, and I'm seeing SO FUCKING MANY WAYS TO PUT WORDS INTO ACTION. I can sign up to go on a road trip and gather signatures that will get Ralph on the ballot in various states. I can refer other like-minded folks for road trips. I can apply for a volunteer position or a paid staff job with the campaign. It's obviously a sacrifice, but if I were really committed to his candidacy, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because nothing is better for democracy than active participation. Anything less is just talk. Or cut & paste.
speaking of cutty pasty, for anyone who wants to take the leap:
https://www.votenader.org/forms/volunteer/
we have been collecting signatures and volunteered....you were saying?
how are those assumptions of yours working out for ya?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
well i did post obama's blueprint for change in response to queries about his actual plans, yes. you wanted details (and not just the word 'change') and i gave you details.
cross the river to the eastside
a source was requested. pro-obama? they were exit poll numbers.
cross the river to the eastside
oh, iowa! you and kal penn did very nice work there. but maybe if you posted more obama would have won new hampshire.
thanks for the link! ralph is hiring! i see a future there.
cross the river to the eastside
I sincerely congratulate you on your volunteer work. Kudos. Huzzahs. Mazeltovs. That's the point I've been trying to make here.
You have to be nice to me now. A certified Obamatard just gave Ralph Nader an unsolicited plug on a popular website, without one single 'pissy' word about his candidacy.
I for one will be the first to say holyfuckingshit that was awesome of you. Thanks we need the help.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
But the point of your link was to back your pro-Obama point of people being racists that didn't vote for him.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
you also used his official site to try and debunk the original post in this thread of mine
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=234406
notice i said 'try'
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
am i ever mean to you?
thank you
and our state coordinator informed us monday we had to halt our petition collecting b/c the size of paper that is permissible for the signatures to be valid is in dispute...it has to be 1 certain size. so some of the signatures already collected are to be thrown out...b/c the paper was the wrong size....how democratic
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
that wasn't my point at all. first, i don't think it's too pro-obama to be racist. second, i never said all people who don't vote for him are racists. i said 1 out of 5 who voted in the dem primary in west virginia based their votes on race.
cross the river to the eastside
20% then
And it's not pro-obama to be racist but that's not your point. Your point is that he lost because of these racist voters not because Hillary deserved it in these states.
But maybe we can get b-list actor Kal Penn to get out there and campaign in these states for the general and show those 'dixie' states the error of their racist ways.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
b-list?! i think not:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Actor&id=kalpenn.htm
kal penn is a legitimate box office draw with a lifetime gross of: $379,105,237.
cross the river to the eastside
$379,105,237??
Dammmn, that's some serious cash. I bet you could buy a shitload of paper that's correctly sized for use as ballot petitions with that kind of money.
yes, b-list.
I can't decide which of his films I like best.... Van Wilder 2, Malibu's Most Wanted or Epic Movie. But yes, those films do make a ton of money...go figure.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Good thing his candidate won't have to worry about such ridiculous hurdles...
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
It's official, I'm going with Malibu's Most Wanted
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hSxb91dT_BI
And I hope you guys realize I'm just funnin'. I have had a crush on Kal Penn for sometime now and think he is a riot.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde