the Military Commissions Act of 2006
Kann
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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/17/bush.terrorism.ap/index.html
So, what do you think about this? I was surprised to read :
""With the bill I'm about to sign, the men our intelligence officials believe orchestrated the murder of nearly 3,000 innocent people will face justice," Bush said in a White House ceremony. (Watch Bush explain how this bill will protect the U.S. -- 2:53 Video)
The Pentagon expects to begin pre-trial motions early next year and to begin the actual trials in the summer.
The Supreme Court ruled in June that trying detainees in military tribunals violated U.S. and international law, so Bush urged Congress to change the law during a speech on September 6 in the White House East Room attended by families of the Sept. 11, 2001, victims. He also insisted that the law authorize CIA agents to use tough -- yet unspecified -- methods to interrogate suspected terrorists.
Six weeks later, after a highly publicized dispute with key Republicans over the terms of the bill, Bush signed the new law "in memory of the victims of September 11."
"It is a rare occasion when a president can sign a bill he knows will save American lives," Bush said. "I have that privilege this morning.""
I remember in europe, 6 months ago or something, there had been some real unhappy people when it was discovered that some european governments helped the cia keep and transfer their prisoners, and this against international laws. This ought to clear things out!
What I don't understand is this :
the bill will allow the us agencies works accordingly with american laws but won't they still be breaking the same international laws they used to break?
So, what do you think about this? I was surprised to read :
""With the bill I'm about to sign, the men our intelligence officials believe orchestrated the murder of nearly 3,000 innocent people will face justice," Bush said in a White House ceremony. (Watch Bush explain how this bill will protect the U.S. -- 2:53 Video)
The Pentagon expects to begin pre-trial motions early next year and to begin the actual trials in the summer.
The Supreme Court ruled in June that trying detainees in military tribunals violated U.S. and international law, so Bush urged Congress to change the law during a speech on September 6 in the White House East Room attended by families of the Sept. 11, 2001, victims. He also insisted that the law authorize CIA agents to use tough -- yet unspecified -- methods to interrogate suspected terrorists.
Six weeks later, after a highly publicized dispute with key Republicans over the terms of the bill, Bush signed the new law "in memory of the victims of September 11."
"It is a rare occasion when a president can sign a bill he knows will save American lives," Bush said. "I have that privilege this morning.""
I remember in europe, 6 months ago or something, there had been some real unhappy people when it was discovered that some european governments helped the cia keep and transfer their prisoners, and this against international laws. This ought to clear things out!
What I don't understand is this :
the bill will allow the us agencies works accordingly with american laws but won't they still be breaking the same international laws they used to break?
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I mean, I'm following the news as much as I can, since as long as I could, and I don't really remember a single time where american govs (and to some extend gov in general) cared about international laws, or human rights.
No matter how one think about the problem, governments will first think about how they can get the best benefit out of any situation.
Damn, if anyone really gave a fuck about international laws, the world wouldn't be in such a mess.
an exemple: I never heard anyone complaining about those 50 or so Nato resolution that Israel STILL don't accept.
You're talking about a president/government who oppposed the International Criminal Court (with the likes of countries such as China, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Qatar and Israel - nice bedfellows!). This court could hold US military and political leaders to a uniform global standard of justice. Obviously, not just the US.... Washington then began very active oppostion, negotiating bilateral agreements with other, more vulnerable and dependent countries, insuring immunity of US nationals from prosecution by the Court. As a threat and leverage on these countries, The US threatened termination of economic aid, etc. if they did not 'give in'.
The US thus exempted itself from rules of the game that it believes should apply to others.
Once again, with the bill that is being proposed (read the whole thing.. not just the 'Bush' headline), he is proposing to do the same again. Once again as well, we see this 'bully' and 'we're better than you' and 'we're above the law' approach. As I said, with countries like Israel, Yemen, etc....
What can you really expect from this kind of government?
BTW. Non conformity of Israel goes hand in hand with US government vetoing any resolution that is against Israel...
To put it simple, how can anyone expect to agree on rules which are not followed by those who enforce them?
I somehow feel like in the prisonner. I'm free, as long as I stay in the village.
... not THE village????:D
Don't trust anyone. especially that weird white ball
I was there.. but I escaped.... (was there for real!!!!!)
The place looks so... hmmm... weird. But so beautiful!
Since you managed to escape, maybe you could tell me... OH CRA--
.....
Sorry guys... a bit of light-hearted relief after reading the frightening nonsense that Kann shared with us (Bush's nonsense, not Kann for sharing it with us)....
Anyway, I don't really see how people could disagree to disagree. I meant, people could not agree to disagree... or... oh the hell with it
Junior's new stuff is definitly opening the door for all kind of excess, and making it legal...