bush wants 42 billion :)

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea, I remember it too. mohammad atta met with an Iraqi official or some shit? that was just some bullshit they tried to throw in there, the WMD BS was always the main reason for going to Iraq. (according to them)


    Definitely the WMD excuse was the primary reason but they always tried to make a connection between Iraq and Al Qaida. Even after the 9/11 report was published and it clearly stated that there was no significant evidence to connect the Iraqi government to Al Qaida or 9/11, Cheney was still stating in interviews that there was a connection between the two organizations.
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    no it wasnt. WMD's were pounded into peoples head. hell, it was the word of the year in 03.



    bush is a billionaire?? I didnt see him on the forbes list

    I think few (if any) would argue that Iraq followed the 9/11 incident and without 9/11 there would be no Iraq. I think your memory is perhaps failing you.

    I can't see Bush flaunting any of his Saudi oil deals around getting a top story in Forbes anytime soon. Not going to happen.
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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    you are o so wise. I bow to your excellency


    Sorry to witness your regression.
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  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yea, I remember it too. mohammad atta met with an Iraqi official or some shit? that was just some bullshit they tried to throw in there, the WMD BS was always the main reason for going to Iraq. (according to them)


    From what I have read Bin Laden really didn't like Saddam. He thought it was wrong that he had total rule over Iraq but didn't use his power to convert it into a fundamentalist Muslim state (similar to what the Taliban did).
    sure we did. we went to afgahistan didnt we? but IMO it will always be the greatest failure, maybe in the history of the presidency, that we went to Iraq in the middle of the fight with el queda.

    I read an interesting quote somewhere about how people in the Bush Admin knew that the Afgan war would be long and arduous and voters would probably be annoyed since it was hard to see the results and the US military wasn't really able to show of their level of firepower. One of the reasons to go to war with Iraq was the Military was able to show off their
    expensive weapons (think of the shock and awe campaign).
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    Definitely the WMD excuse was the primary reason but they always tried to make a connection between Iraq and Al Qaida. Even after the 9/11 report was published and it clearly stated that there was no significant evidence to connect the Iraqi government to Al Qaida or 9/11, Cheney was still stating in interviews that there was a connection between the two organizations.

    cheney is quite the asshole. did you see the PBS special on him? this guy has done more damage to america then bin laden.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I think few (if any) would argue that Iraq followed the 9/11 incident and without 9/11 there would be no Iraq. I think your memory is perhaps failing you.
    nah I dont think so. I think cheney and wolfowitz had too much of a hard on to get rid of saddam. my money says that would have happened regardless of 9/11.
    I can't see Bush flaunting any of his Saudi oil deals around getting a top story in Forbes anytime soon. Not going to happen.
    saudi oil deals are making bush a billionaire? if so, not sure what that has to do with the billions being spent in Iraq.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    nah I dont think so. I think cheney and wolfowitz had too much of a hard on to get rid of saddam. my money says that would have happened regardless of 9/11.

    saudi oil deals are making bush a billionaire? if so, not sure what that has to do with the billions being spent in Iraq.


    Nobody knows where the money is going. Billions are being tossed around like candy. Bush is getting his cut of the action without question. Whether of not it is directly traceable to him is another question, He's definitely getting his fair share of the action.

    Without 9/11 we still wouldn't have had the Iraq war by now. It would take forever to make the case for war without some kind of polarizing incident. They even admit to this being the case as outlined in PNAC.
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    cheney is quite the asshole. did you see the PBS special on him? this guy has done more damage to america then bin laden.

    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

    Cheney really scares the shit out of me.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Nobody knows where the money is going. Billions are being tossed around like candy. Bush is getting his cut of the action without question. Whether of not it is directly traceable to him is another question, He's definitely getting his fair share of the action.
    yes billions are wasted in Iraq. the rest is just spoon fed propaganda that you suck up from the net. prove something
    Without 9/11 we still wouldn't have had the Iraq war by now. It would take forever to make the case for war without some kind of polarizing incident. They even admit to this being the case as outlined in PNAC.
    thats just your opinion. US's problems with Saddam didnt start after 9/11.

    not sure why you keep saying "we". you arent even american yet you have some orgasmic fascination with my country as if you live here.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    yes billions are wasted in Iraq. the rest is just spoon fed propaganda that you suck up from the net. prove something

    thats just your opinion. US's problems with Saddam didnt start after 9/11.

    not sure why you keep saying "we". you arent even american yet you have some orgasmic fascination with my country as if you live here.

    Yes it's all so honest and forthcoming this Iraq war thing. Good luck selling this story to the next guy.

    Have yourself a nice day...
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Yes it's all so honest and forthcoming this Iraq war thing. Good luck selling this story to the next guy.

    Have yourself a nice day...

    run away buddy. run away
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    run away buddy. run away

    Your dialog is abrasive It's kinda crappy...I'm not into it.

    someone else will probably bite...hang tite.
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  • mammasan wrote:
    Cheney really scares the shit out of me.

    I wish Cheney and Bush were walking down the street side by side. I'd kick Cheney in his clit with my left foot and Bush in his clit with my right.
    one foot in the door
    the other foot in the gutter
    sweet smell that they adore
    I think I'd rather smother
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    bush wants 42 billion...huh...

    in the meantime...SCHIP is vetoed...

    yet, the so-called conservatives will be eager to rubber stamp this funding request...

    let's see...Insurance for children or billions for a war to nowhere...

    priorities, smiorities...
  • Danny BoyDanny Boy Posts: 161
    This will make you sick. I know Rolling Stone is a liberal magazine, but I believe in the bulk of what's stated in this article.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle
    Trading magic for fact, no tradebacks... So this is what it's like to be an adult...
  • Bush wants a landing strip more I bet
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  • Danny Boy wrote:
    This will make you sick. I know Rolling Stone is a liberal magazine, but I believe in the bulk of what's stated in this article.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle

    "In short, some $8.8 billion of the $12 billion proved impossible to find. "Who in their right mind would send 360 tons of cash into a war zone?" asked Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House Oversight Committee. "But that's exactly what our government did."

    Unbelievable. It's insane...absolutely insane. People are going to fry once this thing settles down.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Danny Boy wrote:
    This will make you sick. I know Rolling Stone is a liberal magazine, but I believe in the bulk of what's stated in this article.

    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/16076312/the_great_iraq_swindle


    The audacity in this article is blowing my mind, still reading it.


    Incomprehensible. Blatant cash grab everywhere.. This shit is seriously illegal and morally bankrupt on so many levels.

    I'm speechless...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • bharQbharQ Posts: 1,201
    you guys think its all fun and games huh
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    bharQ wrote:
    you guys think its all fun and games huh

    Yes why not the Bush Administration thinks it's ALL fun and games as they line there pockets ill gotten funds. Gotta love this country.

    Peace
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    macgyver06 wrote:
    i wish i could catch him on the street

    Maybe those in power could get some SPINOCRAT. Then maybe mo money, mo money would wasted on a nowhere War In Iraq.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


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