bush wants 42 billion :)

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

how is bush getting rich? saddam hussien was never accused of being involved in 9/11. nice try.

I can't believe I just read that.

boxwine_in_hell

lukin321 wrote:

i'm having a shitty morning but this made me smile

I aim to please.

THC

jlew24asu wrote:

how is bush getting rich? saddam hussien was never accused of being involved in 9/11. nice try.

I was being extremely sarcastic when i said saddam was involved in 9/11. The point was it was bin laden (probably) and yet we never went after him. we went to war w/ saddam.

and bush and his friends are getting rich because all these contracts that total 42 billion this time...80 billion the time before....120 billion the time before that.... Well...all the contracts go to firms that bush and his friends are either associated with...or were major contributor's to his campaign. How much do you think Haliburton will make off this go around? And it was Cheney's company. give me a fricken brake if you want to tell yourself they are not making money off these wars!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

Actually there where several times that prominent administration officials, including Cheney and Rumsfield, attempted to make a connection between Iraq and 9/11 in the build-up to the invasion. I will find sources and post them for you.

Put it this way. If they didn't make a case for Saddam/911, then why/how did we ever invade Iraq in the first place? The connections were pounded into peoples heads enough to justify going to war.

The money thing? Oh man...billions made and socked away.

THC

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Put it this way. If they didn't make a case for Saddam/911, then why/how did we ever invade Iraq in the first place? The connections were pounded into peoples heads enough to justify going to war.

The money thing? Oh man...billions made and socked away.

F*** there have been truckloads of cash that have gone 'missing' from Iraq....BILLIONS!!!!

jlew24asu

THC wrote:

I was being extremely sarcastic when i said saddam was involved in 9/11. The point was it was bin laden (probably) and yet we never went after him. we went to war w/ saddam.

sure we did. we went to afgahistan didnt we? but IMO it will always be the greatest failure, maybe in the history of the presidency, that we went to Iraq in the middle of the fight with el queda.

THC wrote:

and bush and his friends are getting rich because all these contracts that total 42 billion this time...80 billion the time before....120 billion the time before that.... Well...all the contracts go to firms that bush and his friends are either associated with...or were major contributor's to his campaign. How much do you think Haliburton will make off this go around? And it was Cheney's company. give me a fricken brake if you want to tell yourself they are not making money off these wars!

yea yea yea. you said bush is making money. he's not. or maybe you think he went to war so he can put money in his pocket. haliburton is the best at what they do, thats why they get many contracts. and cheney doesnt work there anymore. contracts also go to firms who aren't associated with bush but you love to make blanket statements that all of them are.

politicians always pander to certain groups. happens at every level of government and is not associated with any party. don't sound so shocked.

jlew24asu

mammasan wrote:

Actually there where several times that prominent administration officials, including Cheney and Rumsfield, attempted to make a connection between Iraq and 9/11 in the build-up to the invasion. I will find sources and post them for you.

yea, I remember it too. mohammad atta met with an Iraqi official or some shit? that was just some bullshit they tried to throw in there, the WMD BS was always the main reason for going to Iraq. (according to them)

jlew24asu

lukin321 wrote:

True but his name was snuck in many times on the topic of terrorism and 9/11 which led many not so bright people to connect dots that shouldn't be connected.

yea I know. but they never said we are invading Iraq because saddam was involved in 9/11. that was my point. but I know some bullshit links were attempted.

jlew24asu

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Put it this way. If they didn't make a case for Saddam/911, then why/how did we ever invade Iraq in the first place? The connections were pounded into peoples heads enough to justify going to war.

no it wasnt. WMD's were pounded into peoples head. hell, it was the word of the year in 03.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The money thing? Oh man...billions made and socked away.

bush is a billionaire?? I didnt see him on the forbes list

jlew24asu

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The plans to sharpen the talons and get tits deep into the middle east has been in the works for decades before 9/11.

To say there is no element of false flag incorporated with 9/11 takes the concept of naivety to new levels.

you are o so wise. I bow to your excellency

mammasan

jlew24asu wrote:

yea, I remember it too. mohammad atta met with an Iraqi official or some shit? that was just some bullshit they tried to throw in there, the WMD BS was always the main reason for going to Iraq. (according to them)

Definitely the WMD excuse was the primary reason but they always tried to make a connection between Iraq and Al Qaida. Even after the 9/11 report was published and it clearly stated that there was no significant evidence to connect the Iraqi government to Al Qaida or 9/11, Cheney was still stating in interviews that there was a connection between the two organizations.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

no it wasnt. WMD's were pounded into peoples head. hell, it was the word of the year in 03.



bush is a billionaire?? I didnt see him on the forbes list

I think few (if any) would argue that Iraq followed the 9/11 incident and without 9/11 there would be no Iraq. I think your memory is perhaps failing you.

I can't see Bush flaunting any of his Saudi oil deals around getting a top story in Forbes anytime soon. Not going to happen.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

you are o so wise. I bow to your excellency

Sorry to witness your regression.

Kel Varnsen

jlew24asu wrote:

yea, I remember it too. mohammad atta met with an Iraqi official or some shit? that was just some bullshit they tried to throw in there, the WMD BS was always the main reason for going to Iraq. (according to them)

From what I have read Bin Laden really didn't like Saddam. He thought it was wrong that he had total rule over Iraq but didn't use his power to convert it into a fundamentalist Muslim state (similar to what the Taliban did).

sure we did. we went to afgahistan didnt we? but IMO it will always be the greatest failure, maybe in the history of the presidency, that we went to Iraq in the middle of the fight with el queda.

I read an interesting quote somewhere about how people in the Bush Admin knew that the Afgan war would be long and arduous and voters would probably be annoyed since it was hard to see the results and the US military wasn't really able to show of their level of firepower. One of the reasons to go to war with Iraq was the Military was able to show off their
expensive weapons (think of the shock and awe campaign).

jlew24asu

mammasan wrote:

Definitely the WMD excuse was the primary reason but they always tried to make a connection between Iraq and Al Qaida. Even after the 9/11 report was published and it clearly stated that there was no significant evidence to connect the Iraqi government to Al Qaida or 9/11, Cheney was still stating in interviews that there was a connection between the two organizations.

cheney is quite the asshole. did you see the PBS special on him? this guy has done more damage to america then bin laden.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

jlew24asu

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I think few (if any) would argue that Iraq followed the 9/11 incident and without 9/11 there would be no Iraq. I think your memory is perhaps failing you.

nah I dont think so. I think cheney and wolfowitz had too much of a hard on to get rid of saddam. my money says that would have happened regardless of 9/11.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I can't see Bush flaunting any of his Saudi oil deals around getting a top story in Forbes anytime soon. Not going to happen.

saudi oil deals are making bush a billionaire? if so, not sure what that has to do with the billions being spent in Iraq.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

nah I dont think so. I think cheney and wolfowitz had too much of a hard on to get rid of saddam. my money says that would have happened regardless of 9/11.

saudi oil deals are making bush a billionaire? if so, not sure what that has to do with the billions being spent in Iraq.

Nobody knows where the money is going. Billions are being tossed around like candy. Bush is getting his cut of the action without question. Whether of not it is directly traceable to him is another question, He's definitely getting his fair share of the action.

Without 9/11 we still wouldn't have had the Iraq war by now. It would take forever to make the case for war without some kind of polarizing incident. They even admit to this being the case as outlined in PNAC.

mammasan

jlew24asu wrote:

cheney is quite the asshole. did you see the PBS special on him? this guy has done more damage to america then bin laden.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/darkside/

Cheney really scares the shit out of me.

jlew24asu

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Nobody knows where the money is going. Billions are being tossed around like candy. Bush is getting his cut of the action without question. Whether of not it is directly traceable to him is another question, He's definitely getting his fair share of the action.

yes billions are wasted in Iraq. the rest is just spoon fed propaganda that you suck up from the net. prove something

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Without 9/11 we still wouldn't have had the Iraq war by now. It would take forever to make the case for war without some kind of polarizing incident. They even admit to this being the case as outlined in PNAC.

thats just your opinion. US's problems with Saddam didnt start after 9/11.

not sure why you keep saying "we". you arent even american yet you have some orgasmic fascination with my country as if you live here.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

yes billions are wasted in Iraq. the rest is just spoon fed propaganda that you suck up from the net. prove something

thats just your opinion. US's problems with Saddam didnt start after 9/11.

not sure why you keep saying "we". you arent even american yet you have some orgasmic fascination with my country as if you live here.

Yes it's all so honest and forthcoming this Iraq war thing. Good luck selling this story to the next guy.

Have yourself a nice day...