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A vote for Obama is a vote for McCain.

macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
it steals votes from Nader... don't cost us the election again.

PLEASE



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  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    haha nice
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Essentially, this is true. Wouldn't it be nice if the candidates all had the same amount of money for their campaign, all were given equal media exposure minus the spin and we forgot political parties, the lines they draw for us and their nasty ways of getting people behind them....and we voted on a person, their record and their platform alone?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    macgyver06 wrote:
    it steals votes from Nader... don't cost us the election again.

    PLEASE



    :)

    If Ralph Nader manages to get his name on the ballot in even 35 states, come in here with this garbage. Until THAT happens, save us the "stealing votes from Nader" buffoonery.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cornnifer wrote:
    If Ralph Nader manages to get his name on the ballot in even 35 states, come in here with this garbage. Until THAT happens, save us the "stealing votes from Nader" buffoonery.

    So you think he shouldn't be on the ballot? Why should a person be denied the chance to run for president if they want to and they qualify? Do you agree with the DNC efforts to keep Nader off the ballot?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    300 million people represented by only two points of view...

    yay....freedom...

    communist Russia has a higher rate of turn over in congress...

    Go democracy...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    So you think he shouldn't be on the ballot? Why should a person be denied the chance to run for president if they want to and they qualify? Do you agree with the DNC efforts to keep Nader off the ballot?

    When did i say that? Please don't put words in my virtual mouth. The point is, whether i agree with it or not, he won't be on the ballot in, probably even half the states, so to say Obama or anyone else is stealing votes from Nader, is beyond silly.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cornnifer wrote:
    When did i say that? Please don't put words in my virtual mouth. The point is, whether i agree with it or not, he won't be on the ballot in, probably even half the states, so to say Obama or anyone else is stealing votes from Nader, is beyond silly.

    It was three questions...meaning you had to answer them because I didn't know what you thought.

    If the DNC keeps him off the ballot it would be much worse than just stealing votes....it's stealing his rights.

    He's already been working with a team of pro bono lawyers to make sure this shit doesn't happen again.

    Now I'll ask again, do you think he should be allowed on the ballot? Do you support the DNC efforts to keep him off?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    It was three questions...meaning you had to answer them because I didn't know what you thought.

    If the DNC keeps him off the ballot it would be much worse than just stealing votes....it's stealing his rights.

    He's already been working with a team of pro bono lawyers to make sure this shit doesn't happen again.

    Now I'll ask again, do you think he should be allowed on the ballot? Do you support the DNC efforts to keep him off?

    Look, i DID answer it. i could care less. By all means put him on the ballot. Shit, put him on twice. Won't matter. Hell, put MY name on the ballot, i stand just as much chance of winning as Ralph Nader. MY point is simply that saying the other candidates are stealing votes from Nader, even jokingly as i believe was the case, is just plain dumb.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cornnifer wrote:
    Look, i DID answer it. i could care less. By all means put him on the ballot. Shit, put him on twice. Won't matter. Hell, put MY name on the ballot, i stand just as much chance of winning as Ralph Nader. MY point is simply that saying the other candidates are stealing votes from Nader, even jokingly as i believe was the case, is just plain dumb.


    Once will suffice.

    Good to see that ensuring democracy and the freedom of choice in this nation weighs heavily on your mind.

    Go fucked system go!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Once will suffice.

    Good to see that ensuring democracy and the freedom of choice in this nation weighs heavily on your mind.

    Go fucked system go!

    Listen, Abook, i'm not trying to be disrespectful. i never am, despite whatever notions you have about me. i've never been a huge fan of the two party system, myself. i've always registered non-partisan (i switched this year so i could vote in my states primary). i'm all for choice and i certainly respect yours. i also realize its a slippery slope, however. Where do you draw the line? Shit, why not have ten or fifteen choices on the ballot? Its dangerous when you run the risk of electing a president who wins only 25% of the vote. Do we really want a president that 75% of the people voted against? That, i think would cheapen democracy more than offering two or three people to choose from. Its kind of a rock and hard place situation.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    cornnifer wrote:
    Listen, Abook, i'm not trying to be disrespectful. i never am, despite whatever notions you have about me. i've never been a huge fan of the two party system, myself. i've always registered non-partisan (i switched this year so i could vote in my states primary). i'm all for choice and i certainly respect yours. i also realize its a slippery slope, however. Where do you draw the line? Shit, why not have ten or fifteen choices on the ballot? Its dangerous when you run the risk of electing a president who wins only 25% of the vote. Do we really want a president that 75% of the people voted against? That, i think would cheapen democracy more than offering two or three people to choose from. Its kind of a rock and hard place situation.

    No one I've talked to has been asking for 10 or 15 names on the ballot. You should definitely demonstrate that you have enough support to run. Nader has.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    No one I've talked to has been asking for 10 or 15 names on the ballot. You should definitely demonstrate that you have enough support to run. Nader has.

    What amounts to "enough support"? Less than 1% is not "enough support". Again i don't care if he runs, i don't care if his name is on the ballot, i dont, care if you vote for him (in fact, i respect your right and decision to do so), i just think his candicy is ridiculous and based upon nothing but his ego and desire to try and screw shit up, and to protest the sysyem. Oh, well.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • dangerboydangerboy Posts: 1,569
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Essentially, this is true. Wouldn't it be nice if the candidates all had the same amount of money for their campaign, all were given equal media exposure minus the spin and we forgot political parties, the lines they draw for us and their nasty ways of getting people behind them....and we voted on a person, their record and their platform alone?

    and all primaries on the same day


    ebay isn't evil people are


    The South is Much Obliged
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Essentially, this is true. Wouldn't it be nice if the candidates all had the same amount of money for their campaign, all were given equal media exposure minus the spin and we forgot political parties, the lines they draw for us and their nasty ways of getting people behind them....and we voted on a person, their record and their platform alone?

    you mean every eligible candidate getting a fair shot and not having to rely on greed and a mass that follow their television station... i think you are on to something
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cornnifer wrote:
    If Ralph Nader manages to get his name on the ballot in even 35 states, come in here with this garbage. Until THAT happens, save us the "stealing votes from Nader" buffoonery.


    its one thing to be ignorant... but to let an entire message board know you are ignorant by replies like this is crazy..

    stick to linkin logs
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cornnifer wrote:
    Look, i DID answer it. i could care less. By all means put him on the ballot. Shit, put him on twice. Won't matter. Hell, put MY name on the ballot, i stand just as much chance of winning as Ralph Nader. MY point is simply that saying the other candidates are stealing votes from Nader, even jokingly as i believe was the case, is just plain dumb.


    GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you dont understand concepts and you piss me off


    bashing nader is ridiculous! he is a consumer advocate... why youre gaining 300 pounds and buying your stupid fucking lattes nader is fighting to keep your fat fucking self safe on the way there by protecting your unenlightened arrogant ass in your oversized vehicle.


    come on here bashing a candidate with no substance


    LAUGHABLE


    sorry for the hostility
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    macgyver06 wrote:
    GO TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you dont understand concepts and you piss me off


    bashing nader is ridiculous! he is a consumer advocate... why youre gaining 300 pounds and buying your stupid fucking lattes nader is fighting to keep your fat fucking self safe on the way there by protecting your unenlightened arrogant ass in your oversized vehicle.


    come on here bashing a candidate with no substance


    LAUGHABLE


    sorry for the hostility

    i didn't bash anyone, i'm not fat, have never had a latte, drive a chevy prizm, and am currently enrolled in a masters program. What's, truly laughable is spouting off about someone you know nothing about. Might i suggest Lexapro?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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