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How can you shoot Women and Children???

macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
edited January 2007 in A Moving Train
EASY!!! You don't lead them as much...

favorite line from Full Metal Jacket.

that and

'' If they run, they are vietkong, if they don't run..they are just well disciplined vietkong.''
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    get some! get some!
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    That movie is a model of how ruthless and mindless military and war is.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That movie is a model of how ruthless and mindless military and war is.

    Are you always ON.
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    one of my favs. it haunts me.
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Are you always ON.

    Depends what ON is. If you mean the forum, I've been OFF all weekend.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    Just watched FMJ over the weekend. Very thought provoking movie.
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Depends what ON is. If you mean the forum, I've been OFF all weekend.

    That's not what I meant, forget it man.
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    western pearl wrote:
    Just watched FMJ over the weekend. Very thought provoking movie.

    i've watched it about 30 times.
    there is to much to say to even start.
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    western pearl wrote:
    Just watched FMJ over the weekend. Very thought provoking movie.


    So's

    "all quiet on the western front"

    "the bridge at Remagen" my favorite war movie, a must see.

    http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/bridge_remagen.htm

    "the longest day"

    "Bravo two zero" also good.
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  • western pearlwestern pearl Posts: 632
    sapperskunk wrote:
    So's

    "all quiet on the western front"

    "the bridge at Remagen" my favorite war movie, a must see.

    http://www.eccentric-cinema.com/cult_movies/bridge_remagen.htm

    "the longest day"

    "Bravo two zero" also good.

    Watched "All Quiet" in one of my many high school history classes. I'll have to check out "the bridge" Thanks..
    "Everyone is a patriot in some form or another.... i prefer the intelligent ones."

    "She fell funny"

    "Klaus Daimler, 40, engineer, calm, collected, German"
  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    my favs.

    apocolypse now
    the deer hunter
    full metal jacket
    platoon
    ryan
    watership down

    Sgt. Barnes: Death? What you all know about death?
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    western pearl wrote:
    Watched "All Quiet" in one of my many high school history classes. I'll have to check out "the bridge" Thanks..


    Definately, they don't make movies like that anymore. George Segal is so serious it's scary, the look on his face throughout the movie is absolutely intense.
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Gunnery Sgt. HARTMAN: "Do any of you people know who Charles Whitman was? None of you dumbasses knows?
    Private Cowboy?"

    Pvt. COWBOY: "Sir, he was that guy who shot all those people from that tower in Austin, Texas, sir!"

    HARTMAN: "That's affirmative. Charles Whitman killed twenty people from a twenty-eight-storey observation tower at the University of Texas from distances up to four hundred yards.
    ...
    Anybody know who Lee Harvey Oswald was?
    Private Snowball?"

    Pvt. SNOWBALL: "Sir, he shot Kennedy, sir!"

    HARTMAN: "That's right, and do you know how far away he was?"

    SNOWBALL: "Sir, it was pretty far! From that book suppository building, sir!"

    ** Other recruits Laughing **

    HARTMAN: "All right, knock it off! Two hundred and fifty feet! He was two hundred and fifty feet away and shooting at a moving target. Oswald got off three rounds with an old Italian bolt action rifle in only six seconds and scored two hits, including a head shot!
    Do any of you people know where these individuals learned to shoot?
    Private Joker?"

    Pvt. JOKER: "Sir, in the Marines, sir!"

    HARTMAN: "In the Marines! Outstanding! Those individuals showed what one motivated marine and his rifle can do! And before you ladies leave my island, you will be able to do the same thing!"
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • lalalalaaaaaaaalalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    I like the film, but I think it's like a kids version of Apocalypse Now. That film says much more about war, violence, and humanity on a much deeper level.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    I don't get what "You just don't lead them so much" is supposed to mean.
    reigning champion

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  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    sponger wrote:
    I don't get what "You just don't lead them so much" is supposed to mean.


    Leading is when you aim further in front of the target you are tracking through your weapon sights, it's to account for distance and speed of the target. Women and children are considered slower than in this case, the average VC.
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Leading is when you aim further in front of the target you are tracking through your weapon sights, it's to account for distance and speed of the target. Women and children are considered slower than in this case, the average VC.

    How in the world is the audience supposed to know this? I would think one would have to be in the military. I guess that makes it an inside joke.
    reigning champion

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  • sapperskunksapperskunk Posts: 684
    sponger wrote:
    How in the world is the audience supposed to know this? I would think one would have to be in the military. I guess that makes it an inside joke.


    Not really, quarterbacks do it every time they throw the ball at a moving reciever.
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  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That movie is a model of how ruthless and mindless military and war is.

    Over the top may have been a better assessment.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • ThumbingMyWay32ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    sapperskunk wrote:
    Not really, quarterbacks do it every time they throw the ball at a moving reciever.


    lol I for one understood you. And thoroughly enjoyed your follow-up explanation. Well done...
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

    "What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."

    Camden 5-28-06
    Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
  • scot88scot88 Posts: 217
    Saturnal wrote:
    I like the film, but I think it's like a kids version of Apocalypse Now. That film says much more about war, violence, and humanity on a much deeper level.

    i understand what you are saying, but i don't agree. both movies bring up different aspects of war.
  • scot88scot88 Posts: 217
    Ahnimus wrote:
    That movie is a model of how ruthless and mindless military and war is.

    uh, yeah.

    ruthless? what do you expect war to be? candy canes a puppies?

    and mindless? there's a shit load of research and development into exactly what the drill instructors do and say. it may seem like off the cuff inslults, but every moment of every day is meticulously planned ahead of time. and the incident with pvt snowball in the movie has never happens in todays military. sure there have been problems, injuries, and even a few deaths (back in the 50s), but there have also been far more in professional sports training. you people don't seem to be complaining about that though.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    It isn't anything but Stanley Kubrick.
    reigning champion

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  • trappedinmyradiotrappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    sponger wrote:
    How in the world is the audience supposed to know this? I would think one would have to be in the military. I guess that makes it an inside joke.

    i knew what it meant when i watched it when i was 11...
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    i knew what it meant when i watched it when i was 11...

    Well good for you. Why don't you share why that is instead of trying to come across as though it must be common sense or that I must've been an underdeveloped 11 y/o.
    reigning champion

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  • trappedinmyradiotrappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    sponger wrote:
    Well good for you. Why don't you share why that is instead of trying to come across as though it must be common sense or that I must've been an underdeveloped 11 y/o.

    i wasn't asked why i knew it...you said you must have to be in the military to understand what it means...i merely stated that i wasn't in the military and i knew what it meant at a certain age. it's not my problem that you feel inadequate.
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    trappedinmyradio wrote:
    i wasn't asked why i knew it...you said you must have to be in the military to understand what it means...i merely stated that i wasn't in the military and i knew what it meant at a certain age. it's not my problem that you feel inadequate.

    Let's say you have familiy in the military who may have explained this concept to you or that you learned it while playing football. Then I would say that it wasn't just the fact that you were 11 years old. It's like withholding information. Obviously, I'm curious to know how people were able to get the joke. "I was 11" doesn't really explain it.
    reigning champion

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