Whats your breaking point?
macgyver06
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and by that i mean
At what point would you leave your own country? What would it take?
Some people feel strongly about civil liberties being taken away... some people disagree with war to the point where they want to get as far away as possible.. some people lose their entire families to the military...some people get false imprisoned... some people get imprisoned for minor violations of a law they didnt understand in the first place (its ever changing... are you up to date on what you can do?)...some people are just crazy conspiracy theorists and think they are being followed so they have no choice but to flee... some shame their political position they've held and are almost forced to move..
these are examples.... but the question is
What would it take for you to leave??
At what point would you leave your own country? What would it take?
Some people feel strongly about civil liberties being taken away... some people disagree with war to the point where they want to get as far away as possible.. some people lose their entire families to the military...some people get false imprisoned... some people get imprisoned for minor violations of a law they didnt understand in the first place (its ever changing... are you up to date on what you can do?)...some people are just crazy conspiracy theorists and think they are being followed so they have no choice but to flee... some shame their political position they've held and are almost forced to move..
these are examples.... but the question is
What would it take for you to leave??
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I don't think anything else could get me out, unless a lot of liberties started going away. And I don't see the neocons having much more success...
"Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
anyway i don't have a breaking point, i've got travelling streak
which is just as well because when the fucking idiots back home voted a fucking facist to the second round, that would have sent me packing anyway (ok he then lost 80-20..still a 5th of the morons voted for him!)...and they dare say they didn't see it coming, fuck that, I did and I hadn't been living there for 5 years!!
sorry, I had to vent that one. that said, the facist in question is probably less far right than some of your mainstream republicans :rolleyes:
If I was single, I would probably stay and fight or whatever, but not with a family, I wouldn't hesitate to move somewhere if our safety or livelihood was at risk. They are more important to me than my country.
That's not to say that I would never move for other reasons... I love this country, but I would move somewhere else if it was a better opportunity.
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“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
a derivitive of nature.
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god is love
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Italy's a really nice country. Still, there are parts of the U.S just as attractive. You're not all rednecks.
I'm not from the U.S but if that Jesus freak got voted in I'd emigrate to the moon.
It's such a shame to watch "those" who deem beloved je'sus as token...almost like two parents using a child as a pawn in divorce or power control tactics...
It's almost like total confusion...people wanna do right and really believe in their causes, but most people don't really pay mind to intrincities...
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
Well, yeah, I've never really thought of these people as being in any way 'religious', in the proper sense of the word. People living privileged lives, going to Church every Sunday to sing songs and to to slap their thighs, and who are only too happy to paint the face of Jesus, or of 'God', onto whichever colonial enterprise happens to be occuring in their country's name at the time, don't strike me as being particularly saintly, or enlightened.
well if we go any further in this particular facet of this conversation we may as well join a choir...;)...however, the qualities you speak of are part of their status quo...What gets me is when someone finds God, ie religion or cult, that he/she throws evrything away...ie, astrology books, friends who don't join the zealot train, or any other activity that is deemed as sin, in the eyes of an organized church...this always confused me...why would god want me to give up what i like...?
i mean if i like something that may not go along with a majority does this activity make me bad...and if we are to recognized god as everything, then is not the bad part of the good?
for instance; i have a friend who claims she is enlightened...and she is a nice person, overall, but she started having problems in many areas of her life (raising a teenager) and so she gave her self up and found she has been "saved"...
a mutual friend was leaving town and the local business people got together and organized a pot luck...and another friend of mine organized everybody; however, our community is small, and to rent a hall for the occassion seemed a bit outlandish...financially strapping, and this woman was invited...
after all the lovely deeds the departing friend had done for her, she didn't attend the festivities...
later i asked her why and she says, "well you had the party in a bar, and i can't go to a bar..." i could see that as much as i admire this person; her godliness is still attached to an unreasonable source..
myself: i do not drink and i seek spirituality...
i don't care for bars; but it wouldn't stop me from visiting a friend who may work at one or have other business..
i held resistance about going myself, even though this friend who was leaving has done me a moutain of favors; and even in a sense has thrown money over my fence..i knew i would be bored at someplace where i stand out like a sore thumb; but i went anyway; i figured i could read my books and be a designated driver if need be..... i thought to myself, " my goodness, didn't je'sus go into the abyss or sesspool of life? how can a person of god be so discriminating...."
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
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In the eyes of some this is the case. I like reading the gnostic gospels as they seem to hold more truth than the orthodox books. Like 'The Gospel of Thomas' for instance...
3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.
Yeah, I've met people like that. They seem to have lost sight of what's right in front of them.
I yet don't understand what the f*ck am I doing here!!!
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For real? So far I'm clean but I can't promise anything in the future... Hmm may have to rethink. Ok instead of snowboarding in Canada I'll go take over a fishing hut in Mexico...
Also who is Je'sus?
"Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
and you can meet Je'sus in ol Mex'ico, or when you are simply being....
like god with_in
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light