Ahmadinejad's Threat to the UN
mookie_in_eugene
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I know that he loves to talk a big game, but I still get a bit uneasy when he threatens the UN/West.
It's also not good that many in Iran's parliment was chanting "death to America".
It's also not good that many in Iran's parliment was chanting "death to America".
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Well, that's more or less what all of my Iranian friends say.
That could put a damper on analysing and adjusting to events on the ground in Iraq...
though it may have a devistating effect on the lives of our troops and their families - a little military conflict may be just what our president needs to take attention away from his little boo boo in Iraq.
We couldnt occupy iran. But we could bomb the shit out of it.
and suppose they decide to move troops into Iraq?
Why do people confused bungled political action with military action? Our military would eat Iran's military without much effort at all. We fucked up Iraq because we were trying to occupy and completely change their form of gov't and society. Our military had NO trouble with Iraq's military. If Iran came marching in, their armed forces would be fucked.
North Korea can do it because they have the bomb. Iran thinks that Bush couldn't attack because of the monumental failure in Iraq. That is a terrible miscalculation.
We could hit Ian from the Persian Gulf, Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe even Turkey. Less than 10% of their land is arable. We could take that out and just wait until they starve...run Psyops that tell the people of Iran food drops will begin as soon as they overthrow their governmnet.
The vast majority of Iranians are Shia. It is conceivable that they are the ones killing the Iraqi Sunni's, and driving Iraq into civil war to embarass America. That would be a great way to get payback for the American-sponsored coup in Iran back in the day.
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We made this mistake once. They can cause serious damage in small scale conventional attacks - and with funding in Iraq. We do not need more enemies.
We don't need sanctions - we need to blow up the facilities when they truly become a threat. But not before negotiations. We should talk - request inspections and comprimise. a little give and take. The sanctions only deepen the conflict.
our leadership is horrid - and our acceptance of the ineptitude is criminal.
the press would have people believe we are losing the war because we are taking casualties. the reality is, as the previous post points out, our military made mince meat out of the iraqi army twice. this was the worlds 4th largest standing military in the world and were equipped with front line Russian jets. what we are losing in Iraq is the political war. by defining the goals of the war to establish democracy in the region, we set a goal that is completely unatainable. we needed to handle the military aspect of this, taken Saddam with us, and gotten the fuck out.
If Iran tries to send an organized army into the field it will be a former army in short order. it's not coincidence we have two carrier groups with more than 200 war planes in the gulf region ready to go...
As we know the UN does not have the will to handle a country who thumbs it's nose at it just like Iraq did. The UN was created as a means to balance military power in the world. It sucessfully did this only once, in Korea. Since then it has become nothing more than a debating society. The international community has just spoken and Iran has responded with its middle finger. If the "international community" wants to be respected it needs to act, not talk. Their failure to act was indirectly responsible for the current mess in Iraq and if Iran is given more time to work on Nukes our hand will be forced and the US will take them out and be the scapegoat for the UN once again.
First I don't get why people think the best solution to a problem is "bombing the shit out of their country". This has rarely been a good solution, throughout history.
As for bombing everything and leaving the Iranians starving, there are international laws even the us has to obey to. Not for fear of being "grounded" but at the very least to show the example of what a great democracy can be to other countries (like respecting the law, this is what is supposed to be different between the us and the axis of evil).
Finally this is just a rant against un bashing. The un is what it says, a group of countries. The un is your country, my country and a lot more countries trying to come up with worlwide solutions, it isn't a different entity. The actions taken by the un are actually decisions from your government. In this way the un can only be effective if the countries are willing to work together. And one more thing, the UN isn't just designed to balance military power, maybe it was created for this but today things have changed and the un does a whole lot more than that (food, aids, children, refugees...), and you know what it works. And you know why, because most of the countries agree on these subjects.
Well I understand, as a European why you hide behind the UN. You need it. You French especially abuse that institution more than anyone. Perhaps if your countryman would stop proliferating nuclear reactors to fucked up middle east countries, we would not be in this mess. You are probably too young or too uninformed to recall but France sold Iraq its original nuclear reactor. You built Israel's nuclear reactor and now you bitch in the UN because this country is trying to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons to those who clearly mean us ALL harm. Tell you what, how would you feel if we armed Algeria with a nuclear power plant and jets capable of delivering them to Paris? You cant sell nuclear capabilites to unstable parts of the world, and the cry about the UN when it doesn't do it's job. Yes, peacekeeping was it's original mission. So long as we are cool that the UN hands out food, we will keep the peace....That's just the way it is now. Deal with it
if no one takes the un seriously you can't expect it to do good work.
I like the concept behind the UN and I'm kind of sad to see it regularly bashed that's all.
I do stand behind my previous points though.