Anyone else hoping that McKain will run for President?
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I'm a democrat.... but seriously. Of all of the names being tossed around right now for the elections in a few years, McKain is the ONLY respectable, , noble candidate.
Guiliani holds a dear place in many people's hearts because of his actions post 9/11. He was the leader that the country needed that day, a symbolic, strong, roll up your sleeves type. But, a president he is not. His policies would scare me!!
Hilary Clinton. I love the idea of a woman president. But, I am not sure she's the one.
Al Gore, perhaps rejuvinated, but I'm not sure he'd be a viable candidate either. (what is going on with the Dems these days?).
Just wondering what you all think? I sure hope the Democrats can get their act together over the next few years.
Guiliani holds a dear place in many people's hearts because of his actions post 9/11. He was the leader that the country needed that day, a symbolic, strong, roll up your sleeves type. But, a president he is not. His policies would scare me!!
Hilary Clinton. I love the idea of a woman president. But, I am not sure she's the one.
Al Gore, perhaps rejuvinated, but I'm not sure he'd be a viable candidate either. (what is going on with the Dems these days?).
Just wondering what you all think? I sure hope the Democrats can get their act together over the next few years.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
this is what he say's about bush.
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Four years ago, in Philadelphia, I spoke of my confidence that President Bush would accept the responsibilities that come with America's distinction as the world's only superpower.
I promised he would not let America "retreat behind empty threats, false promises and uncertain diplomacy," that he would "confidently defend our interests and values wherever they are threatened."
I knew -- I knew my confidence was well placed when I watched him stand on the rubble of the World Trade Center with his arm around a hero of September 11 and in our moment of mourning and anger, strengthen our unity and our resolve by promising to right this terrible wrong, and to stand up and fight for the values we hold dear.
He promised our enemies would soon hear from us. And so they did. So they did.
He ordered American forces to Afghanistan and took the fight to our enemies and away from our shores, seriously injuring Al Qaeda and destroying the regime that gave them safe haven.
He worked effectively to secure the cooperation of Pakistan, a relationship that's critical to our success against Al Qaeda.
He encouraged other friends to recognize the peril that terrorism posed for them and won their help in apprehending many of those who would attack us again and in helping to freeze the assets they used to fund their bloody work.
After years of failed diplomacy and limited military pressure to restrain Saddam Hussein, President Bush made the difficult decision to liberate Iraq.
Do I hope mccain will run? ummm, no.
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But if he does, he may have a chance of winning, maybe a small chance.
He is NOT a moderate. http://www.voteview.com/ ranks him as the Senate's fourth most conservative member. He gets a 100% approval rating from Phyllis Schlafly's Eagle Forum.
He is also not the maverick he likes to paint himself as. Sure, he gets some press now and again for seeming to stand up to Bush, as with the torture bill. Then Bush comes right out and says that he's free to disregard the law whenever he likes, and McCain says nothing. Then he goes off to some fundraiser somewhere and praises him.
When McCain ran in 2000, he advocated a foreign policy every bit as agressive as what we've since seen from the Bush administration, and he has vigorously supported the war in Iraq.
He has said that had he been governor, he would have signed the abortion ban in South Dakota. This bill makes no exception for rape and incest cases, and is the most restrictive anti-abortion legislation in the country.
He campaigned against the Bush tax cuts, then voted for them.
I could go on and on. No, I don't want him to run, and if he does run I hope he loses. No one who has said "Campaigning with George W. Bush was one of the proudest moments of my life," will ever get my vote.
Still seems like a better candidate than a lot of other possibilities to me.. as long as the Dems take congress.
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Oh my, they dropped the leash.
Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!
"Make our day"
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You make some interesting points. Although I DISAGREE with overturning Roe-V-Wade, I highly doubt that any sitting president would do that, assuming bush dosn't have a go at it while he's in office. The political fall out would be too large for anyone in that position to do so..atleast thats my take on it, and I wouldn't vote based on someone's views on this issue alone, unless I thought there was an actual threat there. I think Abortion is little more than a talking point, a way for repubs to rally the base.
I think that many of the points you made are the effects of politics, and politics alone. McKain has been known for standing up to his party, and was one of the first to bash bush for his Iraq war politics. I have seen many interviews where he has said that the support he has for the Iraq more is nothing more than finshing the job we've started, and that the plan at its onset was vastly underestimated, and botched. The fact of the matter is that he can only stand up to bush to a certain extent, without risking his own position of influence within the party.
I think his service to our country would greatly influence his ability to make decisions in our current world, and he would NOT have the renegade, blow em up and ask questions later attitude that bush has. He is a much more measured human being who seems (atleast from what I've seen) to understand the need for diplomacy as well as for protecting our citizens.
I will certainly look into his voting record. Thanks for the link! I still believe if the republican options in the primary were Guiliani, little bro bush, newt gingrich ( I couldn't believe that one when I heard it), I would run, not walk to the primary to vote for McCain.
Above all else, I hope that the democrats get their act together in a jiffy and offer us a viable candidate that would warrent my full support.
Yes, he is a conservative by nature and by record. In the current political climate, he has been one of the voices of reason though. He tends to reach across the isle, but his own politics aside to some degree in order to get things done.
Really? I would have thought that a more "user friendly" (I would say moderate, but you get the idea) candidate (with armed services experience) would be the repbulican partys answer to all of the hatred for Bush that is out there these days.
a derivitive of nature.
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god is love
love is light
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nature is god
god is love
love is light
just some insight into his character.
I cannot telly you how happy I am that you posted a link to that site
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
And of course the quality of points made by guests are always measured by audience gasps, groans, and boos.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Whatever other points he made have nothing to do with this. He may make good points from time to time, but I think we got a deep look at his character by this horrible joke he made.
I get where your coming from...I just hate the audiences of Maher and J-Stew...
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I admit they are skewed liberal, but you know, I think this is something that transcends liberal vs. conservative, and I also think its fair to say that Daily Show audiences tend to like McCain. It wasn't political.... it was a gut reaction to crass humor.
Maybe I'm making a little too much out of this... it was just one little incident. I'm much more disturbed by McCain views on the war.
eh...I just imagine posters here sitting in on these shows and hooting and moaning, so I'd figure I'd bitch at you guys
Personally, I don't think any of the candidates we have in mind will be running in 2008...it will take some time to sort things out. W didn't even emerge as a front runner until late in 1999...remember it was Liddy Dole.
And when it comes to Senators...they do really bad...I think JFK/LBJ were the last Senators to become presidents.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
i actually liked mccain in 2000 but he has lost all support for me...while i like things he has done w/ his time he has shown himself to be, to me, a phoney...the way the bush machine flat out told lies about him and how they attacked his sanity and all...then to give bush support for 04 and just an endorsement but photo ops, saying nice things, the whole 9...??? fuck that!
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
You should really check out the site posted by hippiemom....it is my fave site ever...but i'm a dork. it basically ranks members of Congress (both house and senate) on their ideology based on how they vote with party leadership. McCain has ALWAYS been a conservative. But he gets on Russert's show and these other Sunday morning shows, and is portrayed as something he's not. Judging people by their voting behavior is more real than judging them by what they say.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
well...for the most part i agree w/ you about judging on their votes...the way they attach unrelated riders into them now, sometimes voting for something good is always voting for something bad at the same time...it seems so hard to find a politician that says what HE thinks and follows through w/ them...
the worst part is how it's just accepted that our politicians are liars
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
You know, I saw that interview. It was a tasteless joke, but I live in the DC area (stuck on the beltway for hours when it closed down during rush hour, only to find out that someone was killed at the gas station I used twice a week). To be honest, I wasn't offended by it though. Wish I could remember what the comment was now.
McKain plays politics, this is true. He simply wouldn't be around this long, or of had any success if he hadn't. But, he has war experience, and seems to put "country before god" if that makes sense, which makes him LESS scary than many of the repubs.