Anyone notice a trend?

Jackhammer

I just meant, the few results I heard recently were coming from a few european countries

Still, I can't help but be scared by the degree of nationalism we've reached in certain countries (all over the world)

UKDave

Jackhammer wrote:

I just meant, the few results I heard recently were coming from a few european countries

Still, I can't help but be scared by the degree of nationalism we've reached in certain countries (all over the world)

Yep, scary :eek: part of the blame culture though...

It's not our fault so it must be someone else's.... :rolleyes:

Jackhammer

I guess...

But I don't get it. People don't seem to understand that everytime a country went down that way, it ended up in the worst fashion.

There should be a way to live in a world of peace...

(sounds like a hippie again )

UKDave

Jackhammer wrote:

I guess...

But I don't get it. People don't seem to understand that everytime a country went down that way, it ended up in the worst fashion.

There should be a way to live in a world of peace...

(sounds like a hippie again )

Should be but again human nature dictates that people will abuse whatever situation to their own gain and fuck it up... the best we can hope for is to minimise it wherever possible, nirvana is a pipe dream, literally

Jackhammer

yes, it's scary...

But I'm not really sure it's the only explanation. If systems fail just because we are humans and therefor not perfect, it implies that we are doing wrong things without explanations. But there is a concerted effort from all kind of govs to keep things like they are.

I'm afraid it's more like, people in charge do not want things to change, and if it changes, it's only to balance things one way or another.

There are rich countries because there are poor countries. See what I mean?

UKDave

Jackhammer wrote:

yes, it's scary...

But I'm not really sure it's the only explanation. If systems fail just because we are humans and therefor not perfect, it implies that we are doing wrong things without explanations. But there is a concerted effort from all kind of govs to keep things like they are.

I'm afraid it's more like, people in charge do not want things to change, and if it changes, it's only to balance things one way or another.

There are rich countries because there are poor countries. See what I mean?

I agree, I'm not saying we shouldn't try because getting half way or two thirds is better than not trying at all, just saying we need to be realistic because it will never be perfect...

Jackhammer

I agree. Besides, it's the only way to live.

Things won't ever be perfect, but they can get a whole lot better.

I don't know. Maybe I'm too sensitive. Feeling bad about the world and such...
But then again, giving up is the last thing to do.

UKDave

Jackhammer wrote:

I agree. Besides, it's the only way to live.

Things won't ever be perfect, but they can get a whole lot better.

I don't know. Maybe I'm too sensitive. Feeling bad about the world and such...
But then again, giving up is the last thing to do.

No the world is a pretty shitty place but there's only one species to blame for that and only one can put it right, so let's freaking get on with it!!!!

Jackhammer

hehe it's good to see there are people ready to go that way, but since we're the only one posting here right now, I don't know if it's a good sign

UKDave

Hmmm

Think we've lost them?

Jackhammer

I don't know...

HEY, IS THERE ANYONE IN HERE?!

UKDave

Obviously not enough bitching, whining or arguing going on...

Jackhammer

Right... Let start to insult each other, you moronic idiot

UKDave

Asshole... :rolleyes:

Jackhammer

hehehe alright, you asked for it, you... you... argh

Maybe we should get back on topic ^^

UKDave

Jackhammer wrote:

hehehe alright, you asked for it, you... you... argh

Maybe we should get back on topic ^^

I notice a trend...

Threads that involve bitching and arguing go on forever and get lots of posts, threads soon close down when an agreement is found...

Jackhammer

yeah, so I guess we have to resign.

People agree that systems are flawed by humans through their imperfection, and as soon as we stated it and wanted to find answers, everyone left.

Not very good for the Future

UKDave

Jackhammer wrote:

yeah, so I guess we have to resign.

People agree that systems are flawed by humans through their imperfection, and as soon as we stated it and wanted to find answers, everyone left.

Not very good for the Future

John Lennon "There are no problems, only solutions".... :rolleyes:

Abuskedti

Jackhammer wrote:

yeah, so I guess we have to resign.

People agree that systems are flawed by humans through their imperfection, and as soon as we stated it and wanted to find answers, everyone left.

Not very good for the Future

I think we have resigned.. I am hopeing we start back up.

I believe Capitalism is resignation.. basically admitting we can think of anything - its everyman for himself.. and there are simply too many people for that.

Jackhammer

Well, it's somehow what I'm thinking about.

We should find something new, or at least try to repair the flaws of existing systems.

But capitalism... I start to think it's really really wrong.

If there are no problem, just solutions, I'd like to know some.

On the other hand, no one will ever accept a system which would give everyone enough of everything. It is possible, but no one will accept it, because of what I wrote earlier.

There are rich because there are poors...