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hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
it's nice uncle sam wants to send us all 300-1200 bucks while people down south are still fucking homeless from Katrina.

Once again, where is the mainstream media?
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Ole GW raised student loan interest rates to pay for Katrina. So, as a person who has student loans, I say that only people who are paying student loans should be receiving a rebate.
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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.

    that is easy to say. The answer is, they are raised poor. They need healthcare education and mentoring. People don't choose lazy and poor. our working society is a bit complicated for the poorly raise child - and worse for his children... a little effort at free education would go a very long way.

    too many educated functioning adults would pose competition to you.. be careful what you hope for.. all this is designed to keep things pretty much as they are... If you don't give a shit about those people than allow our government to keep them down, but keep them alive and thinking its their own fault.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    it's nice uncle sam wants to send us all 300-1200 bucks while people down south are still fucking homeless from Katrina.

    Once again, where is the mainstream media?


    They should give back about 90% of what they steal from us. Then more of us could afford to help people like the Katrina victims.

    The government has shown over and over and over and over and over that it cannot manage money yet some people still put blind faith in it and continually call for everyone to give it more $$$

    Unfortunately, I'm probably not even eligible for the rebate.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.


    where do you live?
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.


    this is unbelievable....we have discussions about illegal immigrants coming here and ''stealing'' from us... and these are the type of people we harbor in this country... proves once again to me...greed isnt just in the government...its in the citizens.... like an ocean....youre washed up and its time to make a trip to new orleans... what a fucking joke!!!


    loooooo hooooooo zaaaaa heeeer
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.


    we should have a worst person of the day thread... you would be my vote.

    shock and awe!
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Wasn't Hurricane Katrina almost three years ago?
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    Wasn't Hurricane Katrina almost three years ago?


    yes
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Abuskedti wrote:
    People don't choose lazy and poor.
    .

    what a ridiculous statement.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    it's nice uncle sam wants to send us all 300-1200 bucks while people down south are still fucking homeless from Katrina.

    Once again, where is the mainstream media?

    you know there are homeless people in every state and every major city.
  • in_hiding79in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    macgyver06 wrote:
    yes


    Then WTF?
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    macgyver06 wrote:
    we should have a worst person of the day thread... you would be my vote.

    shock and awe!

    Oberman is the man...
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    it's nice uncle sam wants to send us all 300-1200 bucks while people down south are still fucking homeless from Katrina.

    Once again, where is the mainstream media?

    i take it you'll be donating your rebate check then. Such altruism! You may have just restored a little bit of my faith in humanity.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    cornnifer wrote:
    i take it you'll be donating your rebate check then. Such altruism! You may have just restored a little bit of my faith in humanity.

    I'll bet you my rebate check he doesnt.
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    Mines going to Obama...
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'll bet you my rebate check he doesnt.

    No thanks :)
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
    cornnifer wrote:
    i take it you'll be donating your rebate check then. Such altruism! You may have just restored a little bit of my faith in humanity.

    as a matter of fact I am donating my reabate check to help support a former student of mine, the rest to the American Cancer society, so kiss my ass naysayers

    I already donated over 500 bucks to Katrina releif, tsunami relief, 9/11 firefighters fund, have donated to several non-profits including amercian heart assoc, disability outreach Org. a non prfo that buys wheelchairs for students, the breast cancer walkathon, the special olympics, and St.Baldricks to support a board members daughter fight for cancer(Pj-sin).

    http://www.stbaldricks.org and yes she met the goal set of 10,000 in total donations! Several by pit members

    I also donate artworks every year to an auction by our School district that raises money for needy students in our schools to go to college, buy clothes, and buy school supplies.


    so 1. I don't appreciate some peoples' fucking sarcasm and insinuations, and 2 Jlew you can now donate your rebate check to a worthy cause as your bet has just been lost.

    this isn't a thread about me, it is about the people in our country that have nothing or very little getting continually shit upon, but we (the more fortunate in most cases) still get tax rebates. Yeah I know some people need the rebate money, and its"stimulous" from purchases will help many buisnesses and create jobs by growth blah blah blah
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    After that I think lou should use his check for sphincter reconstruction surgery...

    :p
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    sponger wrote:
    Ole GW raised student loan interest rates to pay for Katrina. So, as a person who has student loans, I say that only people who are paying student loans should be receiving a rebate.
    student loans can be deferred and your payments are income contingent....so if you don't make that pie in the sky income that you invested for, there is help.

    i heard that ford is giving people some type of buyout to 54000 employees.........http://www.startribune.com/business/14297511.html

    Feds shouldn't be givign out money when the treasury is already suffering..
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Abuskedti wrote:
    that is easy to say. The answer is, they are raised poor. They need healthcare education and mentoring. People don't choose lazy and poor. our working society is a bit complicated for the poorly raise child - and worse for his children... a little effort at free education would go a very long way.

    too many educated functioning adults would pose competition to you.. be careful what you hope for.. all this is designed to keep things pretty much as they are... If you don't give a shit about those people than allow our government to keep them down, but keep them alive and thinking its their own fault.
    pretty much what it boils down to.........love folks that are under the illusion all is equal in love and war...
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'll bet you my rebate check he doesnt.
    pay up....
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  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    melodious wrote:
    student loans can be deferred and your payments are income contingent....so if you don't make that pie in the sky income that you invested for, there is help.

    Payments can be deferred, but not the interest unless it is a subsidized loan, which are awareded on the basis of need. Meanwhile, the rest of us who worked through college did not qualify for subsidized loans, and had to pay down the interest so that it wouldn't accrue and compound.

    After school is finished, payments are deferred for only six more months.

    Income contingent payments do not affect the interest rate. So, smaller payments based on income only mean less principal being paid down.

    If you're having trouble understanding loans (i.e., interest vs. principal), I am more than happy to explain it to you.
    i heard that ford is giving people some type of buyout to 54000 employees.........http://www.startribune.com/business/14297511.html

    Nothing to do with student loans, but thanks for sharing.
    Feds shouldn't be givign out money when the treasury is already suffering..

    Great commentary...but my post was about student loans and Katrina.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    as a matter of fact I am donating my reabate check to help support a former student of mine, the rest to the American Cancer society, so kiss my ass naysayers

    I already donated over 500 bucks to Katrina releif, tsunami relief, 9/11 firefighters fund, have donated to several non-profits including amercian heart assoc, disability outreach Org. a non prfo that buys wheelchairs for students, the breast cancer walkathon, the special olympics, and St.Baldricks to support a board members daughter fight for cancer(Pj-sin).

    http://www.stbaldricks.org and yes she met the goal set of 10,000 in total donations! Several by pit members

    I also donate artworks every year to an auction by our School district that raises money for needy students in our schools to go to college, buy clothes, and buy school supplies.


    so 1. I don't appreciate some peoples' fucking sarcasm and insinuations, and 2 Jlew you can now donate your rebate check to a worthy cause as your bet has just been lost.

    atta boy nicely done. I dont qualify for the rebate but I would donate it if I did.

    hrd2imgn wrote:
    this isn't a thread about me, it is about the people in our country that have nothing or very little getting continually shit upon, but we (the more fortunate in most cases) still get tax rebates. Yeah I know some people need the rebate money, and its"stimulous" from purchases will help many buisnesses and create jobs by growth blah blah blah

    I really dont know why you are bitching. you just mentioned how the stimulus will help and followed it with a blah blah blah :confused:

    its the people who have nothing or very little that are getting a check. I think its gret that they left out the high income earners. dont u?
  • hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,899
    Hey I as much as most want this psudeo-recession to go away, giving evryone some cash back isn't gong to do that. Are we even really in a recession....could it not be seen as the oppotie of repub scare tactics to keep us in wars, while the dems scare us with that bad word recession so they can distact the campaign from things like border security and what the hell we'll do in the cluster fucks known as Iraq and Afganastan...things they have radically different views on than repubs?

    Lew it's all good

    everyone have a great week
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Hey I as much as most want this psudeo-recession to go away, giving evryone some cash back isn't gong to do that.
    rescessions/corrections are healthy for the long term growth of the economy. our housing market was super over inflated and couldnt maintain those increases. banks were giving away money and flooding the economy with bad debt and over inflated earnings from revenue that was never even recieved.

    why do you expect (or want) the government to fix this? it cant and shouldnt. it can only help. this money is going into the hands of people that need it and will spend it.

    I really cant figure out why you are bitching about it.

    hrd2imgn wrote:
    Are we even really in a recession....could it not be seen as the oppotie of repub scare tactics to keep us in wars, while the dems scare us with that bad word recession so they can distact the campaign from things like border security and what the hell we'll do in the cluster fucks known as Iraq and Afganastan...things they have radically different views on than repubs?
    o man dont jump on team tin hat's team. you are smarter then this.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.

    I don't think you look like an ass for you statements...in fact, you make a lot of sense...I agree, those still living in trailers and those not working have made a choice to do so....
  • binauralonthecapebinauralonthecape Posts: 257
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Lately I've been pretty liberal.. but to answer your question.. Why don't they move north and find fucking jobs like the rest of us!.. or B. stop relying on the government and rebuild their own city, I mean, there are enough people to do that. Why does everything have to be a hand out. Fuck the government, be self-supportive!

    I care for these people as much as anyone, be they should be given just enough to get back on their feet, and take it from there.. It's been long enough, that even if our government fucked up (not if, they did), they've (the people of New Orleans) had plenty of time to make up for the fuck-up of aid from our government.

    I might look like an ass, and I'm questioning my own statement, but come on.., Katrina was what, well over a year ago.. Time to start building from within.

    That said, my rebate will go towards my savings which will go towards my retirement, which I expect the government to fuck up social security anyways. The more taxes they give me back the better.
    whoa, a liberal with some brains, couldn't have said it any better... it's too bad pelosi wants to give rebates to people who don't even pay income taxes, because then us contributing members of society would get even more money, ($800-1600) under bush's proposal...
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  • binauralonthecapebinauralonthecape Posts: 257
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Oberman is the man...
    i hope your joking, olberman is a complete idiot who is so far left its disgusting...no wonder espn dropped him, and pmsnbc picked him up, i tried watching his show and its a very bad attempt at stealing some of stewart and colberts thunder..
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    ...i know all the rules but the rules do not know me, guaranteed...
  • binauralonthecapebinauralonthecape Posts: 257
    we should have never, ever let government get this big and controlling, with all the taxes we pay, its a shame that alot of people in this country count on the government to live, our founding fathers never intended it to be this way.
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