Where is the outrage?
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Once again, Iran and their insane leader has declared Israel will be wiped out soon. he compares it to the collapse of the USSR (how he gets this idea who knows).
Where is the outrage?
This nut has a conference on how the holocaust is a myth
where is the OUTRAGE in our media and counrty?
If a racist claimed slavery was a myth all hell would break lose, but again due to the world wide anti-semetism prevelant in all faces of earth no one bats an eyelash. It is more newsworthy that shit bag David Duke is going to it, than calling out against what it is promoting.
I find it absolutely deplorable.
oh yeah right all those pictures of the dead bodies in the concentration camps are doctored or faked. All those people with blue numbered tattoos on their arms were just making it up so they could "steal" Palestinian land.
When will all the hatred towards Jews stop? They defend their country by any means necessary, like we do, but they are always using too much force. They broker peace deal after peace deal, which the OTHER side breaks every time with murders and kidnappings. It somehow always get pointed back at Israel, years of oppression etc.... How much more propaganda will people buy. Have you not seen the hate the facists spread to the children from birth? It is okay for a person to go blow himself up in a mall and kill 20/30 people, but when an Israeli air strike kills and innocent person trying to kill a enemies hiding amongst them blatantly and with their support the whole world chastises them. Where are the critics of Hamas? How has this world become so brainwashed?
There will never be peace as long as one side of the conflict does not desire peace, and only desires the other side is abolished from the world. does everyone want Israel to retaliate with stones? They retaliate by the means they have. Did we invade Iraq with WWII technology? Until the terroists stop hiding amongst the people, and the citrizensrefuse to continue letting them be there, nothing will ever change. israel has no choice but to take the fight to them wherever that may be.
Where is the outrage?
This nut has a conference on how the holocaust is a myth
where is the OUTRAGE in our media and counrty?
If a racist claimed slavery was a myth all hell would break lose, but again due to the world wide anti-semetism prevelant in all faces of earth no one bats an eyelash. It is more newsworthy that shit bag David Duke is going to it, than calling out against what it is promoting.
I find it absolutely deplorable.
oh yeah right all those pictures of the dead bodies in the concentration camps are doctored or faked. All those people with blue numbered tattoos on their arms were just making it up so they could "steal" Palestinian land.
When will all the hatred towards Jews stop? They defend their country by any means necessary, like we do, but they are always using too much force. They broker peace deal after peace deal, which the OTHER side breaks every time with murders and kidnappings. It somehow always get pointed back at Israel, years of oppression etc.... How much more propaganda will people buy. Have you not seen the hate the facists spread to the children from birth? It is okay for a person to go blow himself up in a mall and kill 20/30 people, but when an Israeli air strike kills and innocent person trying to kill a enemies hiding amongst them blatantly and with their support the whole world chastises them. Where are the critics of Hamas? How has this world become so brainwashed?
There will never be peace as long as one side of the conflict does not desire peace, and only desires the other side is abolished from the world. does everyone want Israel to retaliate with stones? They retaliate by the means they have. Did we invade Iraq with WWII technology? Until the terroists stop hiding amongst the people, and the citrizensrefuse to continue letting them be there, nothing will ever change. israel has no choice but to take the fight to them wherever that may be.
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Outrage... We are in the process of wiping Iraq off the map right now! where is the outrage?
Here is some outrage:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2499938,00.html
This is a good example of the principle of free speech. Nuts express their views in public and are soundly ridiculed.
Imagine if you will that Brad Pitt and Mother Theresa both committ a murder. Mother Theresa will get ripped on in the media. It may gather attention that Manson killed somebody, but nobody will be surprised, or lose any respect for the guy since they have none. Mother Theresa shouts "where is the outrage about Manson". Its sorta like that.
On top of this, Ahmadinejad is trying to make his own point. He is trying to provoke outrage in the west as a response to the Dutch cartoon thing. He said at that time he would do it to see how we liked it. Whether the two are equivalent is irrelevant. If we react harshly, he wins his stupid little game.
I am not looking to go "bomb Iran" I just think it is awful quiet considering his rhetoric. I also think his little games are only going to get many many people killed in the long run, again, he is not of sound mind. He is basically follwing the path Hitler took while most of Europe and the US sat on their hands thining it would go away. A nuclear bomb, and or the technology he so desparately seeks will have one of two uses, what the hell do you those are?
Wipe Israel of the map as he has openly said he will do, or use it to blackmail people and countries into his plans.
Don't insult people with analogies of murder, the holocaust claimed over 10 million people, not just jews. To trivialize it with petty analogies that have no basis, and is out of line. This isn't some guy crying wolf.
Lets see a fucking cartoon versus denying 10 million murders, yeah they are so close in the big scope of things.
thanks for the article(I really mean that, it was a good read), I only hope their leader doesn't murder them for speaking their mind against his insanity like Hitler did.
First off, calm down.
Second, Hitler invaded a series of countries, and people sat on their hands about that. Iran is talking tough, but they aren't invading anyone. So your Hitler comparison is very weak.
Third, I am sorry my analogy was not grave enough for you. But, analogies aren't supposed to be, so calm down. You ask where the outrage is. Since you have trouble with analogies, or at least not being overly emotional about them, here it is in plain english.
This is about the 100th time he has said this. This isn't really anything new. Generally, when people realise that someone is an evil nut, the evil nutty things he says are not that outrageous, or shocking. That doesn't mean people don't see him for what he is.
If he does try anything, his country will be turned to glass most likely. America may not be able to occupy a country properly, but they can still turn one to glass quite easily. Israel has a big arsenal too. If Iran attacks Israel, they are dead.
Of course the US can't exactly premptively strike anyone for having nukes anymore. You know who to thank for that.
Now, on the holocaust denial thing. He is doing this precisely to cause a media outrage over here. It is his response to the Muslim cartoon thing. He is attempting to piss us off the way they were pissed off at the muslim cartoon. Don't fall for his crap. His conference doesn't mean anything. they are a bunch of idiots. There are a lot worse things going on the world right now than this conference. Put it in perspective.
Your right, mabe we should just abandon them. Let Iran feel like they have them cornered. Cause god knows all we need is Israel to have to defend itself... You think we are wiping Iraq off the map? You dont wanna know what Israel could do to Iran, syria, lebanon and so on...
Cohen, Avner. Israel and the Bomb. New York: Columbia University Press, 1983.
Ya, I wrote a paper on the subject a couple semesters back...
Great Book, about the raid over Iraq back in 81
Rodger Claire, Raid on the Sun : Inside Israel's Secret Campaign that Denied Saddam the Bomb, ISBN 0-7679-1400-7
Sorry for the double post, but this popped up while writing mine....
Uhh... Do the Words Mein Kempf mean anything to you? That was just writing! Not even speach... written by a guy in prison at the time for trying to overthrow the government! Iran is sponsoring attacks on our troops in Iraq, training troops in Syria, and giving money to Hezbollah in Lebanon to attack Israel... Sounds like a pretty good analogy to me...
If I gave you a list of every country that had its hand in other country's pies it would be pretty long. It would include many countries in Africa, the middle east, south asia, central europe etc etc. There are countries where genocides are going on right now.
Isn't it kind of pointless to argue how bad Iran is? We all know what they are up to.
All i was trying to do was to answer why there was no outrage about his comments. because they are nothing new. And in fact, if you haven't noticed, the west has been rattling its sabres towards Iran for a long time now too. So its not like they are not being noticed.
Think about this critically I mean where has your evidence for this 'funding' of terrorism come from............ the FOX news channel? Jumping to conclusions like this without any firm evidence has already resulted in the Iraq disaster. I see no difference between Iran funding Hezbollah and the US openly funding Israel anyway.
his words incited hatred and made excuses for the German peoples' plight blaming it on the jews. this led to the extermination of over 10 million people in death camps, several million not jews. It included people with disabilities, illnesses, ederly, of varying religions, the list goes on.
Gee that sure sounds like soemthing we have recently heard.
I am NOT wanting military action (unless it is necesary), I would just like to see Europe grow a nut sack and stop sucking Irans oil tit (Russia too). The message needs to be sent that this talk will not be tolerated. What actions we or anyone else takes will depend on his response. Israel will NOT sit and wait, that I can assure you.
The longer this guy goes on about this, the more people that get aboard his deranged views bandwagon. As his country continues to blame Israel for their problems people will start to point the finger at them, JUST LIKE they did in Nazi Germany. NO it is not new, but OBVIOUSLY afgter the first time enough people did NOT say or do enough to alter his thinking or rhetoric so he continues to play with fire seeing how much we will tolerate. He is playing chicken with the fate of his country and millions of others' lives as the game pieces.
So try to connect the dots butter, has this jackass done anythign close to as bad as the Nazis and Hitler, not YET. no one thought Hitler was a threat early on either. How many people died showing how that one went?
Those who forget history are destined to repeat it, we cannot let anything like that happen ever again.
Is our government selective in our causes yes, I think the genocide in Africa is appalling to, and why are we not there trying to stop it? No Startegic importance/oil.
All I am saying is things are very simliar to what happened pre-WW2
Illegally invading and occupying land you stole 40 years ago isn't defending your country. If the U.S. invaded part of Canada and took it over, and then claimed it was defending itself when the people it occupied started fighting back, then we'd be just like Israel.
Um, anyone trying to argue that Iran doesn't fund terrorists is on VERY shaky ground. Use some common sense. But if that's not enough, they've pretty much admitted to arming Hezbollah. This isn't some zany assumption that Rush Limbaugh is spreading around to besmirtch the good name of the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Sorry about the sarcasm, but damn.
Outrage?
This guy saying, "Oh... I want to wipe Israel off the map" is the same as Saddam Hussein saying, "Prepare for the Mother of all Battles". Ooooo... scary man. The Mother of all Battles turned out to be a royal ass-kicking and you have to be a complete idiot to think that Iran can march onto Isreal, undetected and won't get their asses nuked as soon as they mount up. These are the same Iranians that couldn't beat Iraq and resorted to swords and fixed bayonet charges into Iraqi machine gun fire.
It's called, 'Sabre Rattling'... they're big on it over there. They talk a lot of shit to scary wusses.
But, they have nukes? No... they want nukes. And they will need a delivery system. From North Korea... let them try to receive them... there will be a blockade.
And Israel is a big boy, now. A Big Boy with nukes... and delivery systems... mature, tested delivery systems. Plus, their fighter/bomber pilots are arguably some of the best in the world... as are their soldiers.
That Ahmenijeanidaddyo dude may talk a lot of shit... but, do you seriously believe that Reg'lur Joe Iranian wants Israeli Nukes rainning down on his ass?
Hail, Hail!!!
Point.
Thanx.
I hate it when this asshole Ahjahhimienadad is made out like some sort of force in the world... he's a punk ass... a short little fuck with a big fucking mouth. The guy's a fucking Iranian George W. Bush (except without the military to back him).
Hail, Hail!!!
Latest news has Ahjahminochukassholeihad's supporters behind in elections right now ... Maybe, just maybe, the Iranian people are starting to reject hardline extremism.
But an idiot can be reasoned with?
In the Old Testament God says that the nation of Israel and Judah will face turmoil and will be without peace for the rest of it's days because of it's wickedness. This is referring to the period of the divided kingdom when the majority of the people stop following God and started worshiping false gods and idols. Interesting if you believe in that sort of thing.