Israeli perspective on media bias

dayan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7N1AL0FTF4

The best part is the news-anchor stammering at the end.

Abookamongstthemany

Having used to be a heavy cnn watcher, that guy is, imo, delusional.

Vedderlution_Baby

this has nothing to do with your vid but David Horowitz is a cock.


(It's in a related video. David Horowitz laughed off of larry king)

dayan

Some interesting perspective's from the Palestinian press:

Columnists: People in Gaza Long for the Return of the Israeli Occupation

Papers reported that some people in Gaza even want the Israelis to return to the Strip. Faiz Abbas and Muhammad Awwad, journalists for the Israeli-Arab weekly Al-Sinara, wrote: "People in Gaza are hoping that Israel will reenter the Gaza Strip, wipe out both Hamas and Fatah, and then withdraw again... They also say that, since the [start of the] massacres, they [have begun to] miss the Israelis, since Israel is more merciful than [the Palestinian gunmen] who do not even know why they are fighting and killing one another. It's like organized crime, [they said]. Once, we resisted Israel together, but now we call for the return of the Israeli army to Gaza." [20]

Al-Hayat Al-Jadida columnist Yahya Rabah wrote: "When the national unity government was formed, I thought, 'This will be a government of national salvation.' If a government that includes Fatah, Hamas, other factions and independents associated with [various] factions has not been able to save the day, it means that no one can, unless Israel decides that its army should intervene. Then it will invade [the Gaza Strip], kill and arrest [people] - but this time not as an occupying [force] but as an international peace-keeping force. Look what we have come to, how far we have deteriorated, and what we have done to ourselves." [21]

Palestinian journalist Majed Azzam wrote: "We should have the courage to acknowledge the truth... The [only] thing that prevents the chaos and turmoil in Gaza from spreading to the West Bank is the presence of the Israeli occupation [in the West Bank]... [as opposed to] its absence from the Gaza Strip." [22]

Bassem Al-Nabris, a Palestinian poet from Khan Younis in the Gaza Strip, wrote: "If a there was a referendum in the Gaza Strip [on the question of] 'would you like the Israeli occupation to return?' half the population would vote 'yes'... But in practice, I believe that the number of those in favor is at least 70%, if not more - [a figure] much higher than is assumed by the political analysts and those who follow [events]. For the million and a half people living in this small region, things have [simply] gone too far - in practice, not just as a metaphor. [It did not begin] with the internal conflicts, but even earlier, in the days of the previous Palestinian administration, which was corrupt and did not give the people even the tiniest [ray of] hope. The fundamentalist forces which came into power [after it] also promised change and reform, but [instead, people] got a siege, with no security and no [chance of] making a living... If the occupation returns, at least there will be no civil war, and the occupier will have a moral and legal obligation to provide the occupied people with employment and food, which they now lack." [23]

dayan

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

this has nothing to do with your vid but David Horowitz is a cock.


(It's in a related video. David Horowitz laughed off of larry king)

That was a different David Horowitz.

Vedderlution_Baby

dayan wrote:

That was a different David Horowitz.

I figured. I just that the one i was talking about was an exceptional ass licker.


As for your thread....news will always have bias to it. It's unfortunate because it's supposed to be the news so people can get the full story but thats not going to happen. Because new centers are ran by humans, its going to have human bias. The only thing that will change that is if we somehow invent robots that will report news by the facts and cold, hard data. This happens on both sides of the spectrum and it's miserable either way.

dayan

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

I figured. I just that the one i was talking about was an exceptional ass licker.


As for your thread....news will always have bias to it. It's unfortunate because it's supposed to be the news so people can get the full story but thats not going to happen. Because new centers are ran by humans, its going to have human bias. The only thing that will change that is if we somehow invent robots that will report news by the facts and cold, hard data. This happens on both sides of the spectrum and it's miserable either way.

I completely agree. I only posted that because on another thread people were going on and on about how the news is biased in favor of Israel, and I wanted to show that not everyone thinks that way. But yeah, I agree with you.

Vedderlution_Baby

dayan wrote:

I completely agree. I only posted that because on another thread people were going on and on about how the news is biased in favor of Israel, and I wanted to show that not everyone thinks that way. But yeah, I agree with you.

I think those robots are a damn good idea.

FinsburyParkCarrots

I wonder if the powers that be at CNN were talking in the anchor's earpiece all the time, to allow Horovitz a "token rant" and not counter it, lest the controversy of debate create an "issue" for them. It's an old trick: if someone (Horovitz) asks a series of difficult questions that really tread on your (CNN, the putative interviewer's) toes, say nothing, and let them pass blithely, for viewers with short attention spans are only likely to pay attention to and remember a bit of rough-and-tumble. On 24 hour TV news, you're supposed to get away with that. However, this shows the power of the internet, doesn't it?: someone will be listening to an intelligent, unchecked discourse on TV, be their own editor and select it as a YouTube clip.


Here's an example of a bit of a debate going from a Horovitz article:

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?apage=2&cid=1180527989151&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull