Ron Paul Talks About Gun Control

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edited December 2008 in A Moving Train
kinda like how nukes prevent imperialist countries from openly attacking the ones who don't have them. ;)

http://pressmediawire.com/article.cfm?articleID=20061

"(PressMediaWire) December 8, 2008 - Congressman Ron Paul's statement in his Texas Straight Talk Express this week. He said;

Tragically, over the Thanksgiving holiday, the world was reminded how evil and cruel people can be. According to emerging accounts of the events in India, about a dozen well-armed and devastatingly well-trained terrorists laid siege on the city of Mumbai, killing almost two hundred people, and terrorizing thousands.

Regardless of the reasons, the indiscriminate shooting on masses of unarmed and defenseless people is chilling and reprehensible. How were these terrorists able to continue so long, relatively unchallenged, killing so many?

India’s gun laws are her business, of course. However, once the shock of these events and the initial reaction of fear passes, Americans should take away a valuable lesson about real homeland security and gun control from this tragedy.

Gun control advocates tell us that removing guns from society makes us safer. If that were the case why do the worst shootings happen in gun free zones, like schools? And while accidents do happen, aggressive, terroristic shootings like this are unheard of at gun and knife shows, or military bases. It bears repeating that an armed society truly is a polite society.

The fact is that firearm technology exists. It cannot be uninvented. As long as there is metalworking and welding capability, it matters not what gun laws are imposed upon law-abiding people. Those that wish to have guns, and disregard the law, will have guns. Gun control makes violence safer and more effective for the aggressive, whether the aggressor is a terrorist or a government.

History shows us that another tragedy of gun laws is genocide. Hitler, for example, knew well that in order to enact his “final solution,” disarmament was a necessary precursor. While it is not always the case that an unarmed populace WILL be killed by their government, if a government is going to kill its own people, it MUST disarm them first so they cannot fight back. Disarmament must happen at a time when overall trust in government is high, and under the guise of safety for the people, or perhaps the children. Knowing that any government, no matter how idealistically started, can become despotic, the Founding Fathers enabled the future freedom of Americans by enacting the second amendment.

In our own country, we should be ever vigilant against any attempts to disarm the people, especially in this economic downturn. I expect violent crime to rise sharply in the coming days, and as states and municipalities are even more financially strained, the police will be even less able or willing to respond to crime. In many areas, local police could become more and more absorbed with revenue generating activities, like minor traffic violations and the asset forfeiture opportunities of non-violent drug offenses. Your safety has always, ultimately been your own responsibility, but never more so than now. People have a natural right to defend themselves. Governments that take that away from their people should be highly suspect.

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  • I have never owned a gun, fired a gun, or have any affinity for guns themselves, but I totally agree with this point of view. Criminals will ALWAYS have the means to weapons, and will always have the upper hand as a result, if we are not armed. It is also silly to think that the government can ALWAYS protect us-- it's also incredibly costly. I don't think our country has to look like the wild west with everyone carrying a pistol, but the right to keep and bear arms should be protected.

    Who knows? 9/11 may not have happened if there was someone on those planes with guns, the pilots maybe?
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    I think only a small percentage of the U.S. population would actually surrender all their weapons if outlawed. I ignore laws I don't agree with and would still own guns no matter what. We'd all just get more secretive about it.
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  • eyedclaar wrote:
    I think only a small percentage of the U.S. population would actually surrender all their weapons if outlawed. I ignore laws I don't agree with and would still own guns no matter what. We'd all just get more secretive about it.

    It's tough to get secretive about things you have registered to your name, and with current gun laws, isn't having an unregistered weapon quite a liability? It looks like Plaxico might be doing some time for his...

    If there was a confiscation, and you didn't surrender your registered gun, your house might get searched... What if an unregistered gun was found in the process-- you know, the one you kept just in case of a confiscation or surrendering of arms? I'd say you'd be really fucked then.

    Again, I think the Constitution gave us our best solution to this problem. Let the people have the choice of having them to protect themselves. It's sad that the solution is right in the black and white, but it has illegally been papered over so many times.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    It's tough to get secretive about things you have registered to your name, and with current gun laws, isn't having an unregistered weapon quite a liability? It looks like Plaxico might be doing some time for his...

    If there was a confiscation, and you didn't surrender your registered gun, your house might get searched... What if an unregistered gun was found in the process-- you know, the one you kept just in case of a confiscation or surrendering of arms? I'd say you'd be really fucked then.

    Again, I think the Constitution gave us our best solution to this problem. Let the people have the choice of having them to protect themselves. It's sad that the solution is right in the black and white, but it has illegally been papered over so many times.


    I'm suggesting there are ways around registered firearms. Like the blackmarket for instance. On any given day (hypothetically) you can find all sorts of outawed things in my house, however I don't recommend that anyone stops by to look.
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  • eyedclaar wrote:
    I ignore laws I don't agree with and would still own guns no matter what.

    Laws that are unconstitutional are null and void.
    You don't have to "ignore" them.
    They have no legal standing.

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  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    Laws that are unconstitutional are null and void.
    You don't have to "ignore" them.
    They have no legal standing.

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  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Gun control advocates tell us that removing guns from society makes us safer. If that were the case why do the worst shootings happen in gun free zones, like schools? And while accidents do happen, aggressive, terroristic shootings like this are unheard of at gun and knife shows, or military bases. It bears repeating that an armed society truly is a polite society.

    Why do they happen at schools? Does Ron Paul really think that this is their motivation? It's safer to kill? What about the fact that most of them are actually students, a lot of them were mistreated by their peers, and school is a huge part of their lives?

    Anyway, let's take his example. How would keeping guns actually prevent school shootings, how would keeping guns make these kids safer? He's not suggesting students start to arm themselves, is he?

    I'm not against guns, though, I disagree with a lot of gun proponents about guns, their use, point etc.
    if a government is going to kill its own people, it MUST disarm them first so they cannot fight back. "

    "The fact is that firearm technology exists. It cannot be uninvented. As long as there is metalworking and welding capability, it matters not what gun laws are imposed upon law-abiding people. Those that wish to have guns, and disregard the law, will have guns. Gun control makes violence safer and more effective for the aggressive, whether the aggressor is a terrorist or a government."

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    I was recently in Texas and as I was driving down the highway I saw a sign outside of a general store that said, in this order, GUNS, MAPLE SYRUP, FIREWOOD.
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