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Occupation 101 (the documentary)

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
"Any violence by a large population is not because these people are more violent than any other [population], it's an alarm, a sign, it's a signal, that something is wrong with the treatment of this population"

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589&hl=en

"Synopsis:

A thought-provoking and powerful documentary film on the current and historical root causes of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unlike any other film ever produced on the conflict -- 'Occupation 101' presents a comprehensive analysis of the facts and hidden truths surrounding the never ending controversy and dispels many of its long-perceived myths and misconceptions.

The film also details life under Israeli military rule, the role of the United States in the conflict, and the major obstacles that stand in the way of a lasting and viable peace. The roots of the conflict are explained through first-hand on-the-ground experiences from leading Middle East scholars, peace activists, journalists, religious leaders and humanitarian workers whose voices have too often been suppressed in American media outlets.

The film covers a wide range of topics -- which include -- the first wave of Jewish immigration from Europe in the 1880's, the 1920 tensions, the 1948 war, the 1967 war, the first Intifada of 1987, the Oslo Peace Process, Settlement expansion, the role of the United States Government, the second Intifada of 2000, the separation barrier and the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, as well as many heart wrenching testimonials from victims of this tragedy.

Featured Interviews

Occupation 101 features a leading list of some of the most credible Middle East scholars, historians, peace activists, journalists, and humanitarian workers. "

http://www.occupation101.com/about.html

torrent
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Very good documentary this.

    Torrent:
    http://www.torrentz.com/6400a3be5630a5f3256f532934573706dc4aa72e
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    highly recommended for anyone who wants to learn about this situation.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I posted this documentary ages ago. Thinking to watch it for a third time.

    There's another documentary filmed by Israeli soldiers at the checkpoints....man did that ever drive home the reality of it all.

    When learning about this issue I went back and forth on it a few times over the course of a year, however now it's rather clear to me what's going on.

    Dumping billions and billions of dollars of blind hatred on a bunch of dirt poor farmers because they are human beings with thoughts and emotions like everyone else.

    It's sick in the head like no other, and now they have the whole world believing their sick little, for profit, racist lies.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Mutiny! he criedMutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    'Checkpoint' is also a very good doc on the situation
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    'Checkpoint' is also a very good doc on the situation

    Thanks. I've not seen this. I'll check it out.

    Here's the torrent:

    http://www.torrentz.com/27be0148ca92e360b3005dd12cc2d5d9b8f02728
  • Mutiny! he criedMutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    Byrnzie wrote:
    Thanks. I've not seen this. I'll check it out.

    Here's the torrent:

    http://www.torrentz.com/27be0148ca92e360b3005dd12cc2d5d9b8f02728


    no problem, ma'am

    Thanks for the torrent link
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    'Occupation 101' is a solid documentary...A must see.

    I've only seen parts of it when it came out, but just watched the whole thing now. Thanks Roland for posting it.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MrBrian wrote:
    'Occupation 101' is a solid documentary...A must see.

    I've only seen parts of it when it came out, but just watched the whole thing now. Thanks Roland for posting it.

    Thanks. Definitely a pre-requisite on the short list prior to discussing the issue.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Thanks. Definitely a pre-requisite on the short list prior to discussing the issue.
    So basically people living in palestine/israel who have not watched this movie should refrain from discussing this issue? That may be a solution.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Kann wrote:
    So basically people living in palestine/israel who have not watched this movie should refrain from discussing this issue? That may be a solution.

    People can talk about anything they want. Having an informed discussion is another reality altogether.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Thanks for posting this. With documentaries like this coming out hopefully the world will not sit silent for much longer.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NoK wrote:
    Thanks for posting this. With documentaries like this coming out hopefully the world will not sit silent for much longer.

    It's not something you will ever see shown on terrestrial t.v in either Britain or the U.S. As far as I'm aware this documentary can only be seen via the net.
  • Mutiny! he criedMutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's not something you will ever see shown on terrestrial t.v in either Britain or the U.S. As far as I'm aware this documentary can only be seen via the net.


    I saw 'Checkpoint' on either IFC or Sundance but they were having a week or so of documentaries on different things like that and the sweatshops that make beads and other stuff for Mardi Gras and the workers can lose a day or more pay for talking and the bosses acted like there was nothing wrong w/ that.

    Did ya watch Checkpoint yet?
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    Did ya watch Checkpoint yet?

    It's still downloading. My internet speed here is as slow as continental drift.
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's not something you will ever see shown on terrestrial t.v in either Britain or the U.S. As far as I'm aware this documentary can only be seen via the net.

    True, you wont see it on Aussie TV either (unless it makes it on a late night slot on sbs) but with the internet the word has been SLOWLY spreading. I find there are a lot more people who have an idea of what the Palestinians are going through than 10 years ago (this is just my feeling/opinion, i could be wrong).
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's still downloading. My internet speed here is as slow as continental drift.

    I have fast internet but I've never really figured out the whole torrent thing. I should look into it to get this doc.
  • Mutiny! he criedMutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's still downloading. My internet speed here is as slow as continental drift.

    You should've moved to Japan instead, they average 80 or so mbps and are going to launch a satellite for internet
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    You should've moved to Japan instead, they average 80 or so mbps and are going to launch a satellite for internet

    Yeah, the internet speed is also really fast in Korea. I think Korea has one of the fastest in the world.
    But Japan is also a very expensive country to live in. I do want to go and work there one day, but not until I have enough cash under my belt.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NoK wrote:
    I have fast internet but I've never really figured out the whole torrent thing. I should look into it to get this doc.

    I usually flick between using e.mule and BitTorrent.
  • Medicated-GeniusMedicated-Genius Posts: 359
    NoK wrote:
    I have fast internet but I've never really figured out the whole torrent thing. I should look into it to get this doc.


    You should be able to download in sections on youtube. I was able to watch Occupation 101 like that. Quite the eye opener.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    Medicated-Genius wrote:
    You should be able to download in sections on youtube. I was able to watch Occupation 101 like that. Quite the eye opener.

    The quality on YouTube's a bit shit though. And you have to watch it in stops and starts. It's best just to get the whole thing in one go.
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Medicated-Genius wrote:
    You should be able to download in sections on youtube. I was able to watch Occupation 101 like that. Quite the eye opener.

    Roland posted a link from Google video with the full movie for Occupation 101 in the OP. I'll check youtube for Checkpoint and probably check emule over the weekend. Thanks for the heads up.
  • Mutiny! he criedMutiny! he cried Posts: 162
    NoK wrote:
    Roland posted a link from Google video with the full movie for Occupation 101 in the OP. I'll check youtube for Checkpoint and probably check emule over the weekend. Thanks for the heads up.


    Byrnzie posted a torrent link for Checkpoint on the 1st page, too.
    'and I can't imagine why you wouldn't welcome any change, my brother'

    'How a culture can forget its plan of yesterday
    and you swear it's not a trend
    it doesn't matter anyway
    there's no need to talk as friends
    nothing news everyday
    all the kids will eat it up
    if it's packaged properly'
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Mutiny! he cried wrote:
    Byrnzie posted a torrent link for Checkpoint on the 1st page, too.

    Yup I saw that but I was mentioning earlier I haven't really looked into the whole downloading torrents thing. I know you need to download software to convert the file after its downloaded or something along those lines. Ill check it out.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    NoK wrote:
    Yup I saw that but I was mentioning earlier I haven't really looked into the whole downloading torrents thing. I know you need to download software to convert the file after its downloaded or something along those lines. Ill check it out.

    It's easy. Just download BitTorrent to your desktop and it converts it automatically.
    http://www.bittorrent.com/btusers/download
  • NoKNoK Posts: 824
    Byrnzie wrote:
    It's easy. Just download BitTorrent to your desktop and it converts it automatically.
    http://www.bittorrent.com/btusers/download

    Thanks! I'll download it when I get home, then I'll download the documentary.
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