Obama's Bailout Bunch Brings Us More of the Same

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
I wonder how far and long this trend will continue. The whole Obama change thing seems to be appearing more and more of an illusion as time goes on.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aNCFKvAMUQ6w&refer=home

"It's hard to believe Barack Obama would even think of calling this change.

Take a good look at some of the 17 people our nation's president-elect chose last week for his Transition Economic Advisory Board. And then try saying with a straight face that these are the leaders who should be advising him on how to navigate through the worst financial crisis in modern history.

First, there's former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. Not only was he chairman of Citigroup Inc.'s executive committee when the bank pushed bogus analyst research, helped Enron Corp. cook its books, and got caught baking its own. He was a director from 2000 to 2006 at Ford Motor Co., which also committed accounting fouls and now is begging Uncle Sam for Citigroup- style bailout cash.

Two other Citigroup directors received spots on the Obama board: Xerox Corp. Chief Executive Officer Anne Mulcahy and Time Warner Inc. Chairman Richard Parsons. Xerox and Time Warner got pinched years ago by the Securities and Exchange Commission for accounting frauds that occurred while Mulcahy and Parsons held lesser executive posts at their respective companies.

Mulcahy and Parsons also once were directors at Fannie Mae when that company was breaking accounting rules. So was another member of Obama's new economic board, former Commerce Secretary William Daley. He's now a member of the executive committee at JPMorgan Chase & Co., which, like Citigroup, is among the nine large banks that just got $125 billion of Treasury's bailout budget.

There's More

Obama's economic crew might as well be called the Bailout Bunch. Another slot went to former White House economic adviser Laura Tyson. She's been a director for about a decade at Morgan Stanley, which in 2004 got slapped for accounting violations by the SEC and a month ago got $10 billion from Treasury.

That's not all. There's Penny Pritzker, the Obama campaign's national finance chairwoman. She was on the board of the holding company for subprime lender Superior Bank FSB. The Chicago-area thrift, in which her family held a 50 percent stake, was seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in 2001. The thrift's owners agreed to pay the government $460 million over 15 years to help cover the FDIC's losses.

Even some of the brighter lights on Obama's board, like Warren Buffett and former SEC Chairman William Donaldson, come with asterisks. Buffett was on the audit committee of Coca-Cola Co.'s board when the SEC found the soft-drink maker had misled investors about its earnings. Donaldson was on the audit committee from 1998 to 2001 at a provider of free e-mail services called Mail.com Inc. Just before he left the SEC, in 2005, the agency disciplined the company over accounting violations that had occurred on his watch.

Telling Stories

So, by my tally, almost half the people on Obama's economic advisory board have held fiduciary positions at companies that, to one degree or another, either fried their financial statements, helped send the world into an economic tailspin, or both. Do you think any of that came up in the vetting?

Let's say we give Buffett a pass -- smart move he made, skipping the group photo-op last week in Chicago. What about the rest of them? Donaldson, for one, was chairman when the SEC voted in 2004 to let the big Wall Street banks, including Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos., lever up their balance sheets like drunks. Talk about blowing it.

And whom did Obama tap for White House chief of staff? Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois congressman who was a director at Freddie Mac in 2000 and 2001 while it was committing accounting fraud.

Ideally, this job would go to someone who can't be easily fooled. Think about it: Of all the people Obama could have chosen as his chief of staff, couldn't he have found someone who wasn't once on the board of Freddie Mac?

Renewed Confidence

The president-elect needs some new advisers -- fast. We are in a crisis of confidence in American capitalism. These aren't the right people to re-instill its sense of honor.

Many of them should be getting subpoenas as material witnesses right about now, not places in Obama's inner circle. Did Obama learn nothing from the ill-fated choice of James Johnson, the former Fannie Mae boss, to lead his vice- presidential search committee?

Does he think people like Robert Rubin or Richard Parsons will offer any helpful advice on how to stop crooked bankers or sleep-walking directors from sinking our economy? Or that they won't mistake the nation's needs for their own corporate interests? Or that the people who helped get us into our long financial nightmare have any clue how to get us out?

Obama has created hope that our nation can stand for all that is good in the world again. It's not too late to change course.

Start by scrapping this board. "
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Bloomberg gives me a frickin hard-on nowadays....

    http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/bailout_money_suit/2008/11/11/150027.html

    One other thing. The medis blips and chirps off this shit, but man... please O God... one of those fuckers needs to lose it on air... "network" style.

    WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTN3s2iVKKI <
    WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Love is more important to me than faith.
  • Fuck it.. while I'm at it...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqcM5lVoteQ

    Reminds me of Evenflow somehow..... Mosh. Fuck Bush.

    Bring that shit in!
    Love is more important to me than faith.
  • It's not too late to change course.

    i sure as fuck hope not!
    he hasn't even taken office yet!
    i am not about to give up hope just yet!
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • OffHeGoes29OffHeGoes29 Posts: 1,240
    I wonder how far and long this trend will continue. The whole Obama change thing seems to be appearing more and more of an illusion as time goes on.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aNCFKvAMUQ6w&refer=home

    "It's hard to believe Barack Obama would even think of calling this change.

    Take a good look at some of the 17 people our nation's president-elect chose last week for his Transition Economic Advisory Board. And then try saying with a straight face that these are the leaders who should be advising him on how to navigate through the worst financial crisis in modern history.

    First, there's former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. Not only was he chairman of Citigroup Inc.'s executive committee when the bank pushed bogus analyst research, helped Enron Corp. cook its books, and got caught baking its own. He was a director from 2000 to 2006 at Ford Motor Co., which also committed accounting fouls and now is begging Uncle Sam for Citigroup- style bailout cash.

    Two other Citigroup directors received spots on the Obama board: Xerox Corp. Chief Executive Officer Anne Mulcahy and Time Warner Inc. Chairman Richard Parsons. Xerox and Time Warner got pinched years ago by the Securities and Exchange Commission for accounting frauds that occurred while Mulcahy and Parsons held lesser executive posts at their respective companies.

    Mulcahy and Parsons also once were directors at Fannie Mae when that company was breaking accounting rules. So was another member of Obama's new economic board, former Commerce Secretary William Daley. He's now a member of the executive committee at JPMorgan Chase & Co., which, like Citigroup, is among the nine large banks that just got $125 billion of Treasury's bailout budget.

    There's More

    Obama's economic crew might as well be called the Bailout Bunch. Another slot went to former White House economic adviser Laura Tyson. She's been a director for about a decade at Morgan Stanley, which in 2004 got slapped for accounting violations by the SEC and a month ago got $10 billion from Treasury.

    That's not all. There's Penny Pritzker, the Obama campaign's national finance chairwoman. She was on the board of the holding company for subprime lender Superior Bank FSB. The Chicago-area thrift, in which her family held a 50 percent stake, was seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in 2001. The thrift's owners agreed to pay the government $460 million over 15 years to help cover the FDIC's losses.

    Even some of the brighter lights on Obama's board, like Warren Buffett and former SEC Chairman William Donaldson, come with asterisks. Buffett was on the audit committee of Coca-Cola Co.'s board when the SEC found the soft-drink maker had misled investors about its earnings. Donaldson was on the audit committee from 1998 to 2001 at a provider of free e-mail services called Mail.com Inc. Just before he left the SEC, in 2005, the agency disciplined the company over accounting violations that had occurred on his watch.

    Telling Stories

    So, by my tally, almost half the people on Obama's economic advisory board have held fiduciary positions at companies that, to one degree or another, either fried their financial statements, helped send the world into an economic tailspin, or both. Do you think any of that came up in the vetting?

    Let's say we give Buffett a pass -- smart move he made, skipping the group photo-op last week in Chicago. What about the rest of them? Donaldson, for one, was chairman when the SEC voted in 2004 to let the big Wall Street banks, including Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos., lever up their balance sheets like drunks. Talk about blowing it.

    And whom did Obama tap for White House chief of staff? Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois congressman who was a director at Freddie Mac in 2000 and 2001 while it was committing accounting fraud.

    Ideally, this job would go to someone who can't be easily fooled. Think about it: Of all the people Obama could have chosen as his chief of staff, couldn't he have found someone who wasn't once on the board of Freddie Mac?

    Renewed Confidence

    The president-elect needs some new advisers -- fast. We are in a crisis of confidence in American capitalism. These aren't the right people to re-instill its sense of honor.

    Many of them should be getting subpoenas as material witnesses right about now, not places in Obama's inner circle. Did Obama learn nothing from the ill-fated choice of James Johnson, the former Fannie Mae boss, to lead his vice- presidential search committee?

    Does he think people like Robert Rubin or Richard Parsons will offer any helpful advice on how to stop crooked bankers or sleep-walking directors from sinking our economy? Or that they won't mistake the nation's needs for their own corporate interests? Or that the people who helped get us into our long financial nightmare have any clue how to get us out?

    Obama has created hope that our nation can stand for all that is good in the world again. It's not too late to change course.

    Start by scrapping this board. "

    Hold on here..... didn't you support Obama in a couple of threads a few weeks ago?
    BRING BACK THE WHALE
  • bump...where's the change?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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    ( o.O)
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    "IMPEACH OBAMA"!!!
    "WORST PRESIDENT EVER"!!!

    You guys kill me.

    McCain would have done the same shit

    And don't even get me started on your obvious hero's Ron Paul or Ralph Nader.

    Both of which if they ever somehow managed to get elected...would do fuck all but sit around with their thumbs up their asses saying..."Holy shit...What do I do now? I don't even have a plan".

    Do you think this shit is going to solve itself over night?

    We have a President right now
    GEORGE W BUSH

    or did you forget about him?

    Where the fuck is he right now?
  • Gonzo1977 wrote:
    "IMPEACH OBAMA"!!!
    "WORST PRESIDENT EVER"!!!

    You guys kill me.

    McCain would have done the same shit

    And don't even get me started on your obvious hero's Ron Paul or Ralph Nader.

    Both of which if they ever somehow managed to get elected...would do fuck all but sit around with their thumbs up their asses saying..."Holy shit...What do I do now? I don't even have a plan".

    Do you think this shit is going to solve itself over night?

    We have a President right now
    GEORGE W BUSH

    or did you forget about him?

    Where the fuck is he right now?

    Where is Bush?

    Is Bush hand picking Obama's team for him? At last check, I think Obama himself is in charge of that right? yes no?

    The rest of what you posted on Paul and Nader made no sense whatsoever.

    I want to know how long the pretend game is going to go on for.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • "So, will Obama be different? Does he possess a secret immunity to the Shadow Powers?

    Here’s any easy way to tell even before he takes office: watch who he names as the new Secretary of the Treasury.

    The Treasury Sec heads up the Plunge Protection Team and is responsible for manipulating the markets and precious metals to manage the collapse on behalf of the Shadow Powers. The Shadow Powers use JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs for their proxy in market manipulation.

    If the newly-named Sec Treas has either of these two bully-banks on his or her resume GAME OVER. An Obama presidency will be business as usual."

    "…by my tally, almost half the people on Obama’s economic advisory board have held fiduciary positions at companies that, to one degree or another, either fried their financial statements, helped send the world into an economic tailspin, or both. Do you think any of that came up in the vetting?

    Many of them should be getting subpoenas as material witnesses right about now, not places in Obama’s inner circle. Did Obama learn nothing from the ill-fated choice of James Johnson, the former Fannie Mae boss, to lead his vice- presidential search committee?"
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    some of you guys are broken records with one track minds...

    entertaining broken records though... lol
  • my2hands wrote:
    some of you guys are broken records with one track minds...

    entertaining broken records though... lol

    Just noticing the obvious in who's who.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    In other news
    The political party formed by Nader in collaboration with Paul - "How's that for change!" (one of the 12 third parties to get over 15% of the votes) managed to get Israel and Palestine leaders to sign a peace treaty with clearly defined borders while simultanously finding both the cure for AIDS and cancer during their 3 day summit in Cairo this week-end. At the end of the summit they also predicted being able to resolve the housing market by the middle of week and a new source of renewable, unlimited and unexpensive energy will be available by next week end.
    Stay tuned for more changes to come.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    i sure as fuck hope not!
    he hasn't even taken office yet!
    i am not about to give up hope just yet!

    hmmm, let's put it this way, think of skydiving...If you see someone packing your parachute the wrong way, are you still going to jump out the plane with it and just 'hope' that it opens up correctly?

    Obama is already clearly packing the parachute the wrong way. All the 'hope' in the world is not gonna get it to open up safely.

    so by saying "he hasn't even taken office yet!" just means that he has not jumped yet. Makes no difference. We know where this is headed.

    You are just allowing the jump because of 'hope'
  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    I wonder how far and long this trend will continue. The whole Obama change thing seems to be appearing more and more of an illusion as time goes on.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aNCFKvAMUQ6w&refer=home

    "It's hard to believe Barack Obama would even think of calling this change.

    Take a good look at some of the 17 people our nation's president-elect chose last week for his Transition Economic Advisory Board. And then try saying with a straight face that these are the leaders who should be advising him on how to navigate through the worst financial crisis in modern history.

    First, there's former Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin. Not only was he chairman of Citigroup Inc.'s executive committee when the bank pushed bogus analyst research, helped Enron Corp. cook its books, and got caught baking its own. He was a director from 2000 to 2006 at Ford Motor Co., which also committed accounting fouls and now is begging Uncle Sam for Citigroup- style bailout cash.

    Two other Citigroup directors received spots on the Obama board: Xerox Corp. Chief Executive Officer Anne Mulcahy and Time Warner Inc. Chairman Richard Parsons. Xerox and Time Warner got pinched years ago by the Securities and Exchange Commission for accounting frauds that occurred while Mulcahy and Parsons held lesser executive posts at their respective companies.

    Mulcahy and Parsons also once were directors at Fannie Mae when that company was breaking accounting rules. So was another member of Obama's new economic board, former Commerce Secretary William Daley. He's now a member of the executive committee at JPMorgan Chase & Co., which, like Citigroup, is among the nine large banks that just got $125 billion of Treasury's bailout budget.

    There's More

    Obama's economic crew might as well be called the Bailout Bunch. Another slot went to former White House economic adviser Laura Tyson. She's been a director for about a decade at Morgan Stanley, which in 2004 got slapped for accounting violations by the SEC and a month ago got $10 billion from Treasury.

    That's not all. There's Penny Pritzker, the Obama campaign's national finance chairwoman. She was on the board of the holding company for subprime lender Superior Bank FSB. The Chicago-area thrift, in which her family held a 50 percent stake, was seized by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. in 2001. The thrift's owners agreed to pay the government $460 million over 15 years to help cover the FDIC's losses.

    Even some of the brighter lights on Obama's board, like Warren Buffett and former SEC Chairman William Donaldson, come with asterisks. Buffett was on the audit committee of Coca-Cola Co.'s board when the SEC found the soft-drink maker had misled investors about its earnings. Donaldson was on the audit committee from 1998 to 2001 at a provider of free e-mail services called Mail.com Inc. Just before he left the SEC, in 2005, the agency disciplined the company over accounting violations that had occurred on his watch.

    Telling Stories

    So, by my tally, almost half the people on Obama's economic advisory board have held fiduciary positions at companies that, to one degree or another, either fried their financial statements, helped send the world into an economic tailspin, or both. Do you think any of that came up in the vetting?

    Let's say we give Buffett a pass -- smart move he made, skipping the group photo-op last week in Chicago. What about the rest of them? Donaldson, for one, was chairman when the SEC voted in 2004 to let the big Wall Street banks, including Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. and Bear Stearns Cos., lever up their balance sheets like drunks. Talk about blowing it.

    And whom did Obama tap for White House chief of staff? Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois congressman who was a director at Freddie Mac in 2000 and 2001 while it was committing accounting fraud.

    Ideally, this job would go to someone who can't be easily fooled. Think about it: Of all the people Obama could have chosen as his chief of staff, couldn't he have found someone who wasn't once on the board of Freddie Mac?

    Renewed Confidence

    The president-elect needs some new advisers -- fast. We are in a crisis of confidence in American capitalism. These aren't the right people to re-instill its sense of honor.

    Many of them should be getting subpoenas as material witnesses right about now, not places in Obama's inner circle. Did Obama learn nothing from the ill-fated choice of James Johnson, the former Fannie Mae boss, to lead his vice- presidential search committee?

    Does he think people like Robert Rubin or Richard Parsons will offer any helpful advice on how to stop crooked bankers or sleep-walking directors from sinking our economy? Or that they won't mistake the nation's needs for their own corporate interests? Or that the people who helped get us into our long financial nightmare have any clue how to get us out?

    Obama has created hope that our nation can stand for all that is good in the world again. It's not too late to change course.

    Start by scrapping this board. "
    i wait for the day you slip up ala nypj1 and we will never hear from you again. its going to be a LONG 8 years Roland enjoy it:)
    Let's not be negative now. Thumper has spoken
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