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Ron Paul re: Obama

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
RP says he's not buying the Change angle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLa3p3zWWPU
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    wow...this is an eye opener as well

    McCain word for word with Obama...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5WiE6MnmCM

    Hey...I don't make em... I just pass em along when I get them
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'm fairly certain I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin, but things like this make me want to write Ron Paul in.
  • drivingrldrivingrl Posts: 1,448
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    RP says he's not buying the Change angle...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLa3p3zWWPU

    Yadda yadda yadda.
    drivingrl: "Will I ever get to meet Gwen Stefani?"
    kevinbeetle: "Yes. When her career washes up and her and Gavin move to Galveston, you will meet her at Hot Topic shopping for a Japanese cheerleader outfit.

    Next!"
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    RP says he's not buying the Change angle...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLa3p3zWWPU

    I thought for sure we was a straight up Obama man!
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    Just let me know who you, a Canadian, is going to vote for in this, the American election.

    I'm glad Ron Paul, a guy I am note voting for, has an opinion about Obama, a guy I may vote for.
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  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    I like Ron Paul. I respect Ron Paul. He's still a republican that bashes the neocons and McCain.

    This doesn't matter to me. If RP was on the ballot I'd vote for him.

    That said I'm still leaning Obama... A serious lean after last nights McCain dog and pony show...
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    To me there is no better person to lead this country than Ron Paul. He is right on the economy, on the Federal Reserve, on foreign policy, on government spending, on taxation and on where the government's powers lay and where they end.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    mammasan wrote:
    To me there is no better person to lead this country than Ron Paul. He is right on the economy, on the Federal Reserve, on foreign policy, on government spending, on taxation and on where the government's powers lay and where they end.

    From what I've been seeing most people drop the leash and run on RP when he talks about abortion and religion. Myself personally would rather fix what's outside the house first (namely the roof if it's leaking) instead of dry walling the ceiling, and hoping the leaks don't stain it.

    All the things you just mentioned I imagine people are hoping will happen with Obama.

    I'm having a hard time seeing it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    People who want to vote for RP don't understand what would happen to this country.

    In an October 2007 interview on the environment, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization".

    And don't even get me started on what his stance on land use regulations would do to scar this nation.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Speakers wrote:
    People who want to vote for RP don't understand what would happen to this country.

    In an October 2007 interview on the environment, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization".

    And don't even get me started on what his stance on land use regulations would do to scar this nation.

    During an interview with RP...

    Q: What makes you the strongest candidate on energy and the environment?

    answer: On energy, I would say that the reliance on the government to devise a policy is a fallacy. I would advocate that the free market take care of that. The government shouldn't be directing research and development because they are bound and determined to always misdirect money to political cronies. The government ends up subsidizing things like the corn industry to develop ethanol and it turns out that it's not economically feasible. So, my answer to energy is to let the market work. Let supply and demand make the decision. Let prices make the decision. That is completely different than the bureaucratic and cronyism approach.

    On environment, governments don't have a good reputation for doing a good job protecting the environment. If you look at the extreme of socialism or communism, they were very poor environmentalists. Private property owners have a much better record of taking care of the environment. If you look at the common ownership of the lands in the West, they're much more poorly treated than those that are privately owned. In a free-market system, nobody is permitted to pollute their neighbor's private property -- water, air, or land. It is very strict."

    http://www.grist.org/feature/2007/10/16/paul/
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • NothingSoundNothingSound Posts: 198
    mammasan wrote:
    To me there is no better person to lead this country than Ron Paul. He is right on the economy, on the Federal Reserve, on foreign policy, on government spending, on taxation and on where the government's powers lay and where they end.

    QFT

    If this election was based on who's the best candidates (and not based on who the media portrayed as the viable ones) this election would be between Joe Biden and Ron Paul.
  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    During an interview with RP...

    In a free-market system, nobody is permitted to pollute their neighbor's private property -- water, air, or land."

    Pollution knows no bounds and proving that somebody building a garbage incinerator on your neighbor's property is going to harm my property 5 blocks away is tough, how about 5 miles away? But how is this enforced under Ron Paul? Nuisance Law. That means people have to wait until it is a problem before they bring litigation. This means years of court trials, etc. while their land is being polluted. Sure, it is ideal to believe that nobody is permitted to pollute their neighbor's private property but as long as people drive cars, people's private property will be polluted. The government must attempt to regulate this.

    Any Ron Paul supporters should go to a third world country and see how pollution works when it is left without regulation. It isn't the government that is the problem, it is how the government regulates. If we want to get serious about it, we will start pressuring the government to change, unfortunately people don't care until it is a problem.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Speakers wrote:
    Pollution knows no bounds and proving that somebody building a garbage incinerator on your neighbor's property is going to harm my property 5 blocks away is tough, how about 5 miles away? But how is this enforced under Ron Paul? Nuisance Law. That means people have to wait until it is a problem before they bring litigation. This means years of court trials, etc. while their land is being polluted. Sure, it is ideal to believe that nobody is permitted to pollute their neighbor's private property but as long as people drive cars, people's private property will be polluted. The government must attempt to regulate this.

    Any Ron Paul supporters should go to a third world country and see how pollution works when it is left without regulation. It isn't the government that is the problem, it is how the government regulates. If we want to get serious about it, we will start pressuring the government to change, unfortunately people don't care until it is a problem.

    If you own land around it...you're going to care about specifically what happens to it. I think that's the point he's trying to make. Renters don't exactly take pride of ownership.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • PJTEXASPJTEXAS Texas Posts: 222
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    RP says he's not buying the Change angle...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLa3p3zWWPU

    well, if Ron Paul's not buying the "change", then I better vote for ... eerrrr...Nader????!!!!! That'll help. NOT!!!!!!!!
    "Love ain't love until you give it up." - Amongst The Waves
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    PJTEXAS wrote:
    well, if Ron Paul's not buying the "change", then I better vote for ... eerrrr...Nader????!!!!! That'll help. NOT!!!!!!!!


    Great choice's eh? Bush, Bush light, and forget it...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Speakers wrote:
    People who want to vote for RP don't understand what would happen to this country.

    In an October 2007 interview on the environment, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization".

    And don't even get me started on what his stance on land use regulations would do to scar this nation.

    It's an interesting argument, this climate change. Seeing as how only a few thousand years ago,we were in an ice age, conditions which aren't exactly favorable to humanity-- you have to wonder if our impact is that great? We didn't have any emissions-producing machines or materials then, and the planet just decided to get pretty damn cold (yes, I realize I'm oversimplifying what happened). It seems as though the earth seems wants to purge itself of us once in a while, regardless of what we do, doesn't it?

    That being said, if we do harm the earth with our industrial processes, I would still take Ron Paul over anyone else with regards to this issue. Paul is against all these trade treaties and organizations (world government in disguise) that essentially ship out all of our industry to countries like China, who are well on their way to being the world's greatest polluters. The more they produce, the more (dirty) energy they use. At least some effort is being made to go green over here, there are laws regulations in place to try and clean things up, and more innovation in clean energy are coming out of the USA than anywhere else. How is this NOT a good policy in helping the environment?
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