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RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited November 2008 in A Moving Train
"Obviously he [ Rahm Emanuel ] will influence the president to be pro-Israel. Why wouldn't he be? What is he, an Arab? He's not going to clean the floors of the White House."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_M._Emanuel

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  • Ian_LIan_L Posts: 101
    My father is a drunk, racist, and neo-con.

    This must mean that I am, too.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Rahm Emmanuel's middle name is Israel. I would've thought that may have given you at least a tiny chubby. I can't believe you have not mentioned that yet...

    Oh wait....You did :rolleyes:

    I voted for Obama to be my President, and with that comes the expectation that he will make the right decisions regarding who will be his support staff.

    If he does fuck up, i'll be one of the first to call him out on it. In the meantime, i'm trusting him to make whatever decisions he feels are the right ones.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Ian_L wrote:
    My father is a drunk, racist, and neo-con.

    This must mean that I am, too.
    Stop making sense. It might be a little too much for some and heads might start to exlode.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ian_L wrote:
    My father is a drunk, racist, and neo-con.

    This must mean that I am, too.

    Actually he's a self proclaimed hardcore Zionist, a staunch supporter of Israel which currently ethnically cleanses ares of the West bank in order to to setup racial Jewish only colonies and holds the people of Gaza in a near prisoner of war style concentration camp.

    In fact Rahm is more far right than Bush when it comes to Israel.

    So there's 2 out of three. Is he a drunk? I dunno is his father a drunk? Can you provide anything more about that claim?

    in any event...any ideas on why his wiki page is pending deletion?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    ...in any event...any ideas on why his wiki page is pending deletion?

    I think it's part of a massive, worldwide conspiracy by the same money masters and secret-handshake clubbers who have influenced everything, everywhere, since the beginning of everything. These people must be stopped, though I'm scared I'd be assassinated if I got too close to the answers.
    "Almost all those politicians took money from Enron, and there they are holding hearings. That's like O.J. Simpson getting in the Rae Carruth jury pool." -- Charles Barkley
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Ian_L wrote:
    My father is a drunk, racist, and neo-con.

    This must mean that I am, too.

    Are you my brother... well, I guess my dad is not a drunk
  • iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    Anybody can edit Wikipedia. Just because Wikipedia says something doesn't mean that it's true.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    I think it's part of a massive, worldwide conspiracy by the same money masters and secret-handshake clubbers who have influenced everything, everywhere, since the beginning of everything. These people must be stopped, though I'm scared I'd be assassinated if I got too close to the answers.

    its not assassination unless you are someone important :)
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Ian_L wrote:
    My father is a drunk, racist, and neo-con.

    This must mean that I am, too.
    No, but it means you have a higher chance of being those things since, oh, I don't know, your dad is the one who fucking raises you and teaches you values in life.

    And when Rahm happens to be more pro-Israeli than even Bush, I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with his father's involvement. When Rahm happens to justify political assassinations of Palestinian figures, I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with his father, who was a member of the terrorist organization Irgun that did things like that. And when Rahm volunteers for the Israeli Army, it has NOTHING to do with his father.

    THAT would make too much sense.

    Some people on here just use no logic at all. They compare being an ardent supporter of an occupation and oppression of a people (to the point of furthering it in Congress and lobby groups like AIPAC) to something as minimal as being a drunk or a racist. How pathetic.
  • PJ_SalukiPJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    MrSmith wrote:
    its not assassination unless you are someone important :)

    My mom says I'm important. :p
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  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    _outlaw wrote:
    No, but it means you have a higher chance of being those things since, oh, I don't know, your dad is the one who fucking raises you and teaches you values in life.

    And when Rahm happens to be more pro-Israeli than even Bush, I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with his father's involvement. When Rahm happens to justify political assassinations of Palestinian figures, I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with his father, who was a member of the terrorist organization Irgun that did things like that. And when Rahm volunteers for the Israeli Army, it has NOTHING to do with his father.

    THAT would make too much sense.

    Some people on here just use no logic at all. They compare being an ardent supporter of an occupation and oppression of a people (to the point of furthering it in Congress and lobby groups like AIPAC) to something as minimal as being a drunk or a racist. How pathetic.
    Minimal...Cool. I guess that all depends on whether you have been affected by it at all.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ian_L wrote:
    My father is a drunk, racist, and neo-con.

    This must mean that I am, too.

    So what you're really trying to say is your dad and Rahm's dad share common interests.

    :p
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    Minimal...Cool. I guess that all depends on whether you have been affected by it at all.
    Minimal in comparison, yes. Obviously those are issues, but to compare them to being an ardent supporter of a country like Israel, to the point where it affects your policies as a congressman and supporter of a lobbyist group, is utter nonsense.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet; and beware of the Rose for it will lure you with it's beauty and smell but if dare close your eyes to pick her up, indeed she shall cut your hands with the thorns she possesses.

    Does it matter that his name is Israel? Of course not, does it matter that he made a choice to serve in the Israeli army? yes, does it matter that he is a proud member of AIPAC? Yes, does it matter that he blindly follows Israel? yes, does it matter that he supports the war in Iraq? Yes.

    Does it matter that Obama is picking old clinton folks? Yes, is that change? no.
  • Ian_LIan_L Posts: 101
    _outlaw wrote:
    Minimal in comparison, yes. Obviously those are issues, but to compare them to being an ardent supporter of a country like Israel, to the point where it affects your policies as a congressman and supporter of a lobbyist group, is utter nonsense.

    I wasn't comparing the severity of the consequences of being a drunk and racist to those of terrorism and assassinations. My point was that who his father is and what his father believes has (potentially) little to do with who Rahm Emanuel is, what motivates him, and what he personally believes in.

    I'd appreciate it if you refrained from attempting to personally insult me by belittling the issues that not only I went through during my childhood, but that thousands of families face today.
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    MrBrian wrote:
    What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet; and beware of the Rose for it will lure you with it's beauty and smell but if dare close your eyes to pick her up, indeed she shall cut your hands with the thorns she possesses.

    Does it matter that his name is Israel? Of course not, does it matter that he made a choice to serve in the Israeli army? yes, does it matter that he is a proud member of AIPAC? Yes, does it matter that he blindly follows Israel? yes, does it matter that he supports the war in Iraq? Yes.

    Does it matter that Obama is picking old clinton folks? Yes, is that change? no.

    How about the fact that he is a co-author of a book which SPECIFICALLY ENDORSES INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE and suggests military-esque "civil service" as a 3 month requirement for ALL citizens ... something SPECIFICALLY forbidden by the constitution ...

    ... and Obama is a constitutional lawyer.

    And his followers won't TOUCH the issue.

    :( :rolleyes: :(
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Ian_L wrote:
    I wasn't comparing the severity of the consequences of being a drunk and racist to those of terrorism and assassinations. My point was that who his father is and what his father believes has (potentially) little to do with who Rahm Emanuel is, what motivates him, and what he personally believes in.
    Did you read my reply to you? Clearly not. Of course who his father is and what his father believes CLEARLY has a HUGE role in who he is. Go back and read my post and you'll see why.
    I'd appreciate it if you refrained from attempting to personally insult me by belittling the issues that not only I went through during my childhood, but that thousands of families face today.
    Yeah, because it was obviously an attempt to personally insult you, rather than to point out that this problem is minimal when compared to how Israel affects the world.
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    My fingers got tired so I had to stop typing early, just too many things to list bro... ;)
  • Ian_LIan_L Posts: 101
    _outlaw wrote:
    Yeah, because it was obviously an attempt to personally insult you, rather than to point out that this problem is minimal when compared to how Israel affects the world.

    Maybe you should go back and read my reply before telling me to do so.

    I really don't understand why you are being so aggressive. If you can't take a breath and calm down, I'm done with you and this thread.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    No need to get ruffled.

    At the outset, I think it's a safe bet to point out Rahmie is well poised to become an evolutionary product of his fathers legacy.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Ian_LIan_L Posts: 101
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    At the outset, I think it's a safe bet to point out Rahmie is well poised to become an evolutionary product of his fathers legacy.

    Certainly.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Ian_L wrote:
    Maybe you should go back and read my reply before telling me to do so.

    I really don't understand why you are being so aggressive. If you can't take a breath and calm down, I'm done with you and this thread.
    How am I being aggressive? You entered this thread with an incredibly sarcastic remark. All I pointed out was that you can't compare a father raising his child to being a 'drunk' as opposed to a father raising his child to love Israel. There's a big difference. it's obvious Rahm's pro-Israel views has something to do with his father being involved in the Irgun and other Zionist movements. For you to be sarcastic about that is, in my opinion, not only insulting, but illogical to reach a conclusion like that.

    And then you came off and accused me of trying to 'personally insult' you, which is simply untrue.

    I'm not saying every child who's father is pro-Israel will be pro-Israel. However, Rahm is a special case where his father was a member of a Zionist terrorist organization. Rahm then happened to volunteer for the Israeli Army, justify political assassinations of palestinians, excuse Israel's actions, work for AIPAC, etc... clearly there is a connection.
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