Amy Goodman arrested at RNC....

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Viva la police state....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

fucked up...

beachdweller

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Viva la police state....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYjyvkR0bGQ

fucked up...

nothing wrong in that video, comply. No police state, they are doing their job, and she should have listened. I hate to see it, but then I've been at protests in SF, and the assinine groups that ruin it for everyone by getting destructive or violate. We all end up paying by the police being less tolerate in those situations.

fuck

beachdweller wrote:

nothing wrong in that video, comply. No police state, they are doing their job, and she should have listened. I hate to see it, but then I've been at protests in SF, and the assinine groups that ruin it for everyone by getting destructive or violate. We all end up paying by the police being less tolerate in those situations.

that's ridiculous. doing their job, what the fuck are you talking about.
1. she has a press pass.
2. she's sitting there trying to explain everything to them, but they 'don't wanna hear it'.

cops can go fuck themselves. and the justice system is a piece of shit. all these shitty laws and regulations that try to limit protests and demonstrations as much as possible.

g under p

I posted this on my site about Amy whom I've met and spoken to her at other protest marches in DC. She is one the most peaceful and kind hearted people i know this is just outrageous what they did here. I hope she's released soon. I gather you better not go anywhere near or utter a protest word at there half enthused convention.

A bit more on her arrest....Goodman was arrested while attempting to free two Democracy Now! producers who
were being unlawfully detained. They are Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole
Salazar. Kouddous and Salazar were arrested while they carried out their
journalistic duties in covering street demonstrations at the Republican National
Convention. Goodman's crime appears to have been defending her colleagues and
the freedom of the press.

Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher told Democracy Now! that Kouddous and Salazar
were being arrested on suspicion of rioting. They are currently being held at
the Ramsey County jail in St. Paul.

Democracy Now! is calling on all journalists and concerned citizens to call the
office of Mayor Chris Coleman and the Ramsey County Jail and demand the
immediate release of Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar. These calls can be directed
to: Chris Rider from Mayor Coleman's office at 651-266-8535 and the Ramsey
County Jail at 651-266-9350 (press extension 0).

Democracy Now! stands by Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and condemns this action
by Twin Cities law enforcement as a clear violation of the freedom of the press
and the First Amendment rights of these journalists.

During the demonstration in which they were arrested law enforcement officers
used pepper spray, rubber bullets, concussion grenades and excessive force.


Peace

fuck

g under p wrote:

I posted this on my site about Amy whom I've met and spoken to her at other protest marches in DC. She is one the most peaceful and kind hearted people i know this is just outrageous what they did here. I hope she's released soon. I gather you better not go anywhere near or utter a protest word at there half enthused convention.

A bit more on her arrest....Goodman was arrested while attempting to free two Democracy Now! producers who
were being unlawfully detained. They are Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole
Salazar. Kouddous and Salazar were arrested while they carried out their
journalistic duties in covering street demonstrations at the Republican National
Convention. Goodman's crime appears to have been defending her colleagues and
the freedom of the press.

Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher told Democracy Now! that Kouddous and Salazar
were being arrested on suspicion of rioting. They are currently being held at
the Ramsey County jail in St. Paul.

Democracy Now! is calling on all journalists and concerned citizens to call the
office of Mayor Chris Coleman and the Ramsey County Jail and demand the
immediate release of Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar. These calls can be directed
to: Chris Rider from Mayor Coleman's office at 651-266-8535 and the Ramsey
County Jail at 651-266-9350 (press extension 0).

Democracy Now! stands by Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and condemns this action
by Twin Cities law enforcement as a clear violation of the freedom of the press
and the First Amendment rights of these journalists.

During the demonstration in which they were arrested law enforcement officers
used pepper spray, rubber bullets, concussion grenades and excessive force.


Peace

Very nice, thanks.

I've met Amy Goodman on numerous occasions as well, and she really is a great person.

g under p

I can't wait for her tomorrow morning and what she'll have to say...Here's an UPDATE...

**UPDATE**

Democracy Now!'s Amy Goodman, Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Nicole Salazar
Released After Illegal Arrest at RNC

Goodman Charged with Obstruction; Felony Riot Charges Pending Against
Kouddous and Salazar

ST. PAUL--Democracy Now! host Amy Goodman and producers Sharif Abdel
Kouddous and Nicole Salazar have all been released from police custody
in St. Paul following their illegal arrest by Minneapolis Police on
Monday afternoon.

All three were violently manhandled by law enforcement officers. Abdel
Kouddous was slammed against a wall and the ground, leaving his arms
scraped and bloodied. He sustained other injuries to his chest and back.
Salazar's violent arrest by baton-wielding officers, during which she
was slammed to the ground while yelling, "I'm Press! Press!," resulted
in her nose bleeding, as well as causing facial pain. Goodman's arm was
violently yanked by police as she was arrested.

On Tuesday, Democracy Now! will broadcast video of these arrests, as
well as the broader police action. These will also be available on:
http://www.democracynow.org

Goodman was arrested while questioning police about the unlawful
detention of Kouddous and Salazar who were arrested while they carried
out their journalistic duties in covering street demonstrations at the
Republican National Convention. Goodman's crime appears to have been
defending her colleagues and the freedom of the press.

Ramsey County Sheriff Bob Fletcher told Democracy Now! that Kouddous and
Salazar were arrested on suspicion of rioting, a felony. While the three
have been released, they all still face charges stemming from their
unlawful arrest. Kouddous and Salazar face pending charges of suspicion
of felony riot, while Goodman has been officially charged with
obstruction of a legal process and interference with a "peace officer."

Democracy Now! forcefully rejects all of these charges as false and an
attempt at intimidation of these journalists. We demand that the charges
be immediately and completely dropped.

Democracy Now! stands by Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and condemns this
action by Twin Cities' law enforcement as a clear violation of the
freedom of the press and the First Amendment rights of these journalists.

During the demonstration in which the Democracy Now! team was arrested,
law enforcement officers used pepper spray, rubber bullets, concussion
grenades and excessive force against protesters and journalists. Several
dozen demonstrators were also arrested during this action, including a
photographer for the Associated Press.

Amy Goodman is one of the most well-known and well-respected journalists
in the United States. She has received journalism's top honors for her
reporting and has a distinguished reputation of bravery and courage. The
arrest of Goodman, Kouddous and Salazar and the subsequent criminal
charges and threat of charges are a transparent attempt to intimidate
journalists.

Democracy Now! is a nationally-syndicated public TV and radio program
that airs on over 700 radio and TV stations across the US and the globe.



Peace

g under p

bump

beachdweller

_outlaw wrote:

that's ridiculous. doing their job, what the fuck are you talking about.
1. she has a press pass.
2. she's sitting there trying to explain everything to them, but they 'don't wanna hear it'.

cops can go fuck themselves. and the justice system is a piece of shit. all these shitty laws and regulations that try to limit protests and demonstrations as much as possible.

You didn't see what happened before the video, and she was trying to walk through the police line. as for your ignorant view of the police and justice system as a whole is a joke at best.

g under p

beachdweller wrote:

You didn't see what happened before the video, and she was trying to walk through the police line. as for your ignorant view of the police and justice system as a whole is a joke at best.

There's a lot more to this video and this story and i pretty sure Amy will broadcast what actually happened. I'll make sure and post what she had to say. Even in protest marches I've been to in front of the White House the police didn't act like this, and we're talking about 100,000 people or more.

Peace

beachdweller

g under p wrote:

There's a lot more to this video and this story and i pretty sure Amy will broadcast what actually happened. I'll make sure and post what she had to say. Even in protest marches I've been to in front of the White House the police didn't act like this, and we're talking about 100,000 people or more.

Peace

I don't know when this happened in relations to the idiots earlier, so anarchist group making trouble sometime after mid-day. I know individual situations happen that are wrong, but other situation lead to this sometimes. Some people make quiet trouble just to get arrested and feed their own stories. I'm not accusing Amy Goodman, just saying that she did try and walk through the offices line, and they teach in riot training to never let that happen.

yoke

_outlaw wrote:

that's ridiculous. doing their job, what the fuck are you talking about.
1. she has a press pass.

Just so you know a press pass means nothing.. I was a fully credentialed photographer at one point, they mean nothing( and in NJ ours are signed by the State Police). It states it right on the pass that these are not to be used to cross police lines etc..

Not saying what happened there was right, just saying the pass means nothing.

g under p

beachdweller wrote:

I don't know when this happened in relations to the idiots earlier, so anarchist group making trouble sometime after mid-day. I know individual situations happen that are wrong, but other situation lead to this sometimes. Some people make quiet trouble just to get arrested and feed their own stories. I'm not accusing Amy Goodman, just saying that she did try and walk through the offices line, and they teach in riot training to never let that happen.

You'll hear what she has to say about this in today's Democracy Now broadcast (give it a listen or read or watch) and then we can formulate better opinions as to what happened here. One thing is for sure Amy Will be forthright as to what happened.

Peace

RolandTD20Kdrummer

honest people try to speak up and they get smashed down.

hit over the head with the almighty dollar...

long live the empire.

Collin

This sucks. It's not just in the US, though. A while ago there was a march by an ultra right wing group. Left groups started their own march and protest... Police used excessive force to stop the left wing protesters, who were having a peaceful protest. Four of my friends live in the street where the (left) protest was held. They saw the brutal actions of the police, one of them went down stairs and started taking pictures of police beating kids. He was kicked by a police officer and told to come along. He explained he wasn't part of the protest and lived in the building across the street. They held him for 3 hours and erased his pictures.

This really was a peaceful protest, but the police was way too violent. In the news they said the left protesters had started the riot :rolleyes:

spyguy

_outlaw wrote:

that's ridiculous. doing their job, what the fuck are you talking about.
1. she has a press pass.
2. she's sitting there trying to explain everything to them, but they 'don't wanna hear it'.

cops can go fuck themselves. and the justice system is a piece of shit. all these shitty laws and regulations that try to limit protests and demonstrations as much as possible.

1. who gives a fuck
2. you dont know the full story.

cops can go fuck themselves? what a scumbag comment. know how many cops would take a bullet for you?

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

honest people try to speak up and they get smashed down.

hit over the head with the almighty dollar...

long live the empire.

your little sound bites are so cute. have you ever been to America? just curious.

g under p

Democracy Now had two broadcasts this morning and they quite revealing. To make a long story short Amy Goodman was on the convention floor conducting interviews. She was texted that her colleagues were being arrested and they needed help. She went to where they were sitting handcuffed and simply trying find the commander to release her DN producers.

They were rounded up without cause and without checking to see that they were press trying to video tape the procedings. I'll give the full transcripts later.

Peace

RolandTD20Kdrummer

spyguy wrote:

1. who gives a fuck
2. you dont know the full story.

cops can go fuck themselves? what a scumbag comment. know how many cops would take a bullet for you?


your little sound bites are so cute. have you ever been to America? just curious.

Whoa dude...step away from the computer...

it's getting to you...

Have I ever been to America?

funny shit...but yes...more times than I can count on a room full of hands

but for this....all that is required is eyes....on both sides.

spyguy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Whoa dude...step away from the computer...

it's getting to you...

Have I ever been to America?

funny shit...but yes...more times than I can count on a room full of hands

but for this....all that is required is eyes....on both sides.

you've chimed in with your little viva la police state like 5 times in a matter of a few weeks that I've been here. only someone who has never or rarely been here says things like that. easy guess that you arent even american.

freindlyfired

This is America! That is a national security event! You play you pay!

Its very simple:
We (police, national guard etc) dont want or need to hear your explanations or excuses. We tell you to leave if you dont, we lock you up, its your choice period. We dont need a reason other than because we said so. You dont like it leave the country.

freindlyfired

On 29 September 2006, the House and Senate approved the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA), a bill that would remove habeas corpus for any person determined to be an “unlawful enemy combatant" engaged in hostilities or having supported hostilities against the United States”[4][5] by a vote of 65–34. (This was the result on the bill to approve the military trials for detainees; an amendment to remove the unavailability of habeas corpus failed 48–51.[6]) President Bush signed the Military Commissions Act of 2006 into law on October 17, 2006. The declaration of a person as an "unlawful enemy combatant" is at the discretion of the US executive branch of the administration, and there is no right of appeal, with the result that this potentially eliminates habeas corpus for any non-citizen.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

spyguy wrote:

you've chimed in with your little viva la police state like 5 times in a matter of a few weeks that I've been here. only someone who has never or rarely been here says things like that. easy guess that you arent even american.

You don't have to be American to have eyeballs

edit I should say a "US citizen"...lot's of Americans don't live in the United States.

spyguy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You don't have to be American to have eyeballs

edit I should say a "US citizen"...lot's of Americans don't live in the United States.

you dont really see whats going on in America by watching 30 second youtube clips. you have to live here and see it 24/7 with those eye balls u speak of. you aren't american or live here. viva la you tube!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

spyguy wrote:

you dont really see whats going on in America by watching 30 second youtube clips. you have to live here and see it 24/7 with those eye balls u speak of. you aren't american or live here. viva la you tube!

it's been going on for a while now....actually minutes after 9/11 it all went postal.

You're approaching a police state whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Nice uniforms...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I wonder how tourism in the US is doing these days....

heartdesire

freindlyfired wrote:

On 29 September 2006, the House and Senate approved the Military Commissions Act of 2006 (MCA), a bill that would remove habeas corpus for any person determined to be an “unlawful enemy combatant" engaged in hostilities or having supported hostilities against the United States”[4][5] by a vote of 65–34. (This was the result on the bill to approve the military trials for detainees; an amendment to remove the unavailability of habeas corpus failed 48–51.[6]) President Bush signed the Military Commissions Act of 2006 into law on October 17, 2006. The declaration of a person as an "unlawful enemy combatant" is at the discretion of the US executive branch of the administration, and there is no right of appeal, with the result that this potentially eliminates habeas corpus for any non-citizen.

Bush ... hmmm ... playing all sides. Signs this, though let's the Bin Laden family depart America ... though approves of torturing prisoners. Truth please, does anyone have access to it?

heartdesire

A friend sent this to me today, felt it fit in with this thread ...


http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/30/police_raids/


... it is really hard to gauge what is going on and what is perpetuating this.

spyguy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

it's been going on for a while now....actually minutes after 9/11 it all went postal.

You're approaching a police state whether you want to acknowledge it or not. Nice uniforms...

spoken like a true outsider. you dont live here, you dont drive or walk the streets everyday.

that or you have your own made up definition of a police state. go visit north korea and get back to me.

spyguy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I wonder how tourism in the US is doing these days....

do you know how stupid you sound? seriously.

http://www.ita.doc.gov/press/press_releases/2008/tourism_062308.asp

TRAVEL & TOURISM IN THE UNITED STATES IS BOOMING
International Visitation and Spending Up in the First Quarter of 2008

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Commerce today announced international visitation to the United States rose 15 percent, and visitor spending increased by 20 percent in the first quarter of 2008 over last year. In March 2008, visitation to the United States climbed substantially to 4.7 million, an increase of 19 percent over March 2007.

International visitors spent a record $11.4 billion in March, accounting for the 20 percent increase from March 2007. Spending by international travelers while in the United States, including travel receipts and passenger fares, is defined as a U.S. export. Travel and tourism to the United States contributes positively to the overall economy.

“America’s success is its openness, and being open to international travel and tourism to the United States boosts the U.S. economy,” said Commerce Assistant Secretary William G. Sutton. “Rising international visitation continues to have a positive impact on our travel and tourism industry. The strong start in the first quarter of 2008 builds on the momentum set in 2007, a record-breaking year for international arrivals and receipts.”

RolandTD20Kdrummer

spyguy wrote:

spoken like a true outsider. you dont live here, you dont drive or walk the streets everyday.

that or you have your own made up definition of a police state. go visit north korea and get back to me.

So you think it's all improved...

yes I can see that...obviously.

do you have posters of Bush in your bedroom?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

spyguy wrote:

do you know how stupid you sound? seriously.

http://www.ita.doc.gov/press/press_releases/2008/tourism_062308.asp

TRAVEL & TOURISM IN THE UNITED STATES IS BOOMING
International Visitation and Spending Up in the First Quarter of 2008

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Commerce today announced international visitation to the United States rose 15 percent, and visitor spending increased by 20 percent in the first quarter of 2008 over last year. In March 2008, visitation to the United States climbed substantially to 4.7 million, an increase of 19 percent over March 2007.

International visitors spent a record $11.4 billion in March, accounting for the 20 percent increase from March 2007. Spending by international travelers while in the United States, including travel receipts and passenger fares, is defined as a U.S. export. Travel and tourism to the United States contributes positively to the overall economy.

“America’s success is its openness, and being open to international travel and tourism to the United States boosts the U.S. economy,” said Commerce Assistant Secretary William G. Sutton. “Rising international visitation continues to have a positive impact on our travel and tourism industry. The strong start in the first quarter of 2008 builds on the momentum set in 2007, a record-breaking year for international arrivals and receipts.”

I asked a question and you're on the attack....

you must be really fun to hang around with in between insults...

brandon10

spyguy wrote:

spoken like a true outsider. you dont live here, you dont drive or walk the streets everyday.

that or you have your own made up definition of a police state. go visit north korea and get back to me.

He's from Toronto............so he's practically American.