That’s a little too much. Your chances of dieing on the way to work here in the states are greater then getting killed over in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I disagree. Surely we have a better chance than one in 96 at being killed on the way to work. With a total casualty count of 11,601, and a permanently deployed force of 130,000, the chances of U.S. doldiers being killed or wounded in the conflict have been reduced to one in 11.
The latest death toll also sees the chances of soldiers dying in action reduced below one in 100. Based on the permanently deployed force number, and the death toll at 1,349, the chances of U.S. soldiers being killed in battle in Iraq stands at one in 96.
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Who said anything about a Private Company footing the bill? Not me.
I want YOU... as a motherfucking taxpayer to foot the goddamn bill. Use our tax dollars to cover whatever the costs. This is OUR war... whether you support it or not.
The article is about the airline charging them. It has nothing to do with me paying the bill for their extra baggage. Is there anything else you'd like me to pay for of their as well? How about their house payment while they're away? Cable Bill? Daycare?
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Dude, I'm a total free-market guy, and on the whole I think corporations get a bad a rap. Hell, I've even defended Exxon-Mobil on this forum before.
But there's just no fucking defending this. Let the soldiers carry their war supplies for free, for God's sake. It's the right thing to do.
Then let the government reimburse them. I just think you don't badger a business through badly spun propaganda into feeling shameful for not giving away services for free.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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If we, as a collective whole, had to shoulder some of the work in a war.... such as feeling the financial pains of the costs of war... then, maybe we wouldn't be so quick to support a war of choice made by our government leaders.
And if little pansie civilians had to pay for the costs of the bullets, bombs, laser guided missiles, jet fuel burned by F-15s and medical costs for our wounded veterans... then I bet they would be so damn Gung Ho about going over to bomb someone on the other side of the planet... just because we can.
We are shouldering it through taxes. If you want to do more, go for it. As for me, I don't support it.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
...
If we, as a collective whole, had to shoulder some of the work in a war.... such as feeling the financial pains of the costs of war... then, maybe we wouldn't be so quick to support a war of choice made by our government leaders.
And if little pansie civilians had to pay for the costs of the bullets, bombs, laser guided missiles, jet fuel burned by F-15s and medical costs for our wounded veterans... then I bet they would be so damn Gung Ho about going over to bomb someone on the other side of the planet... just because we can.
Yo! Brotha', I'm on your side.
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If they are flying for example from AZ to GA to get on a military transport going to a war zone - all baggage fees should be waived.
If they live to make it back - charge them for their bags.
Yes, the airlines will lose money, but that lost should comes with the knowledge that someone came home in flagged coffin or a military transport because they may be missing body parts from a road side bombing.
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If they are flying for example from AZ to GA to get on a military transport going to a war zone - all baggage fees should be waived.
If they live to make it back - charge them for their bags.
Yes, the airlines will lose money, but that lost should comes with the knowledge that someone came home in flagged coffin or a military transport because they may be missing body parts from a road side bombing.
The Airlines can claim what they want but they aren't losing money if they allow military personal to have free baggage. It's a simple box on a form when ordering the tickets.
Example:
Are you military personal? yes
If yes you are granted up to 4 bags at no cost for travel. Each additional bag would be $15.
That was very hard indeed...
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I disagree. Surely we have a better chance than one in 96 at being killed on the way to work. With a total casualty count of 11,601, and a permanently deployed force of 130,000, the chances of U.S. doldiers being killed or wounded in the conflict have been reduced to one in 11.
The latest death toll also sees the chances of soldiers dying in action reduced below one in 100. Based on the permanently deployed force number, and the death toll at 1,349, the chances of U.S. soldiers being killed in battle in Iraq stands at one in 96.
"As of January 10, 2008 3,431 of the 4,228 total coalition military deaths were by hostile fire. 3,201 of the 3,921 total U.S. deaths were by hostile fire."
But the problem is that you can compare the TOTAL KIA due to HOSTILE deaths vs the CURRENT 130,000 stationed in Iraq. The KIA number changes, vs 130,000 that stays the same. Eventually, the number of deaths could surpass the number of troops stationed there if we where there for a long as time. You can't compare those numbers.
You would have to compare the TOTAL KIA vs the TOTAL number deployed over the 5 year period. Which is far greater than even 250K peak of the troop level in Iraq. I can't even find that number.
"As of January 10, 2008 3,431 of the 4,228 total coalition military deaths were by hostile fire. 3,201 of the 3,921 total U.S. deaths were by hostile fire."
But the problem is that you can compare the TOTAL KIA due to HOSTILE deaths vs the CURRENT 130,000 stationed in Iraq. The KIA number changes, vs 130,000 that stays the same. Eventually, the number of deaths could surpass the number of troops stationed there if we where there for a long as time. You can't compare those numbers.
You would have to compare the TOTAL KIA vs the TOTAL number deployed over the 5 year period. Which is far greater than even 250K peak of the troop level in Iraq. I can't even find that number.
I see what you are saying. I'd still much rather take my chances on the drive to work though
Then let the government reimburse them. I just think you don't badger a business through badly spun propaganda into feeling shameful for not giving away services for free.
That would be one way.
I don't care how it should be done. Just that it should be done. I agree with you that nobody can, by law, force the airlines to be fucking human beings about this.
But there's nothing wrong with badgering anybody into doing the right thing.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Shocking!!! I'll bet they even had to pay for their gas on the way to the airport. Or their lunch at the snack bar.
Point is - where do we draw the line at what they receive free?
They are risking their lives for you and me.
You don't think you should pay for eveything for them?
Maybe not everything but a whole hell of a lot, atleast the goverment should.
Its the least we can do. The least.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
I agree the troops should not have to pay for their way to battle.
Kind of a messed up country where we pay for illegal aliens to have things such as health insurance, print government documents in their language, give their kids free education, and also have so many able bodied society draining pondscum animals on welfare. Yet we can't pay for the extra luggage for those that volunteer to defend this country.
Calling any politician who wants to change this, you have my vote.
What magical state do you live in? My state is shouldering the war, my pocket is shouldering the war. I have not received a merit increase or cost of living increase in 2 yrs because of the war and about a month ago was told that the same is expected for 2009.
I do agree that it is media spin, the airlines are not the problem, the dept scheduling flights should take care of it. If there is a reimbursement or somthing great.
I'm sure there is a better way than making them pay, it is not necessarily about the money, it is the feeling behind it.
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If we, as a collective whole, had to shoulder some of the work in a war.... such as feeling the financial pains of the costs of war... then, maybe we wouldn't be so quick to support a war of choice made by our government leaders.
And if little pansie civilians had to pay for the costs of the bullets, bombs, laser guided missiles, jet fuel burned by F-15s and medical costs for our wounded veterans... then I bet they would be so damn Gung Ho about going over to bomb someone on the other side of the planet... just because we can.
Some airlines are charging U.S. soldiers extra baggage fees to take their military kits with them as they set off for war.
Military personnel carry large, heavy kit bags containing boots, clothing and gear. In the past few months, airlines have instituted fees for all travelers ranging from $15 for one bag to $250 for a third bag.
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That’s a little too much. Your chances of dieing on the way to work here in the states are greater then getting killed over in Afghanistan and Iraq.
With a total casualty count of 11,601, and a permanently deployed force of 130,000, the chances of U.S. doldiers being killed or wounded in the conflict have been reduced to one in 11.
The latest death toll also sees the chances of soldiers dying in action reduced below one in 100. Based on the permanently deployed force number, and the death toll at 1,349, the chances of U.S. soldiers being killed in battle in Iraq stands at one in 96.
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php?sid=60704
The article is about the airline charging them. It has nothing to do with me paying the bill for their extra baggage. Is there anything else you'd like me to pay for of their as well? How about their house payment while they're away? Cable Bill? Daycare?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Then let the government reimburse them. I just think you don't badger a business through badly spun propaganda into feeling shameful for not giving away services for free.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
We are shouldering it through taxes. If you want to do more, go for it. As for me, I don't support it.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
If they live to make it back - charge them for their bags.
Yes, the airlines will lose money, but that lost should comes with the knowledge that someone came home in flagged coffin or a military transport because they may be missing body parts from a road side bombing.
The Airlines can claim what they want but they aren't losing money if they allow military personal to have free baggage. It's a simple box on a form when ordering the tickets.
Example:
Are you military personal? yes
If yes you are granted up to 4 bags at no cost for travel. Each additional bag would be $15.
That was very hard indeed...
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
They do pay for your house payment. Its called "Basic Housing Allowance". The payment is based on rank and the area you live in, its also tax free.
They also pay something call "Family seperation" while you're gone too.
"As of January 10, 2008 3,431 of the 4,228 total coalition military deaths were by hostile fire. 3,201 of the 3,921 total U.S. deaths were by hostile fire."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_casualties#U.S._armed_forces
But the problem is that you can compare the TOTAL KIA due to HOSTILE deaths vs the CURRENT 130,000 stationed in Iraq. The KIA number changes, vs 130,000 that stays the same. Eventually, the number of deaths could surpass the number of troops stationed there if we where there for a long as time. You can't compare those numbers.
You would have to compare the TOTAL KIA vs the TOTAL number deployed over the 5 year period. Which is far greater than even 250K peak of the troop level in Iraq. I can't even find that number.
That would be one way.
I don't care how it should be done. Just that it should be done. I agree with you that nobody can, by law, force the airlines to be fucking human beings about this.
But there's nothing wrong with badgering anybody into doing the right thing.
for the least they could possibly do
Me too, I guess we can agree on something.
You don't think you should pay for eveything for them?
Maybe not everything but a whole hell of a lot, atleast the goverment should.
Its the least we can do. The least.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
their language?
ugh there are sooo many questionable terms in this post!
Mihi cura futuri.
The elements they speak to me.
http://espn.go.com/espnradiostations/NewYork1050/gallery/35218855.html
so cute they are
I do agree that it is media spin, the airlines are not the problem, the dept scheduling flights should take care of it. If there is a reimbursement or somthing great.
I'm sure there is a better way than making them pay, it is not necessarily about the money, it is the feeling behind it.
Mihi cura futuri.
The elements they speak to me.
http://espn.go.com/espnradiostations/NewYork1050/gallery/35218855.html
so cute they are
one apparently can't hear
the other is overly sensitive
I'm sure he heard the qand his answer was a good one
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The elements they speak to me.
http://espn.go.com/espnradiostations/NewYork1050/gallery/35218855.html
so cute they are
http://game-revolution.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10049
Mihi cura futuri.
The elements they speak to me.
http://espn.go.com/espnradiostations/NewYork1050/gallery/35218855.html
so cute they are