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Police arrest anti-war protester, 80, at mall

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
Must have been a town called Orwellian Nightmare USA...

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-liwar305631629mar30,0,1085417.story

An 80-year-old church deacon was removed from the Smith Haven Mall yesterday in a wheelchair and arrested by police for refusing to remove a T-shirt protesting the Iraq War.

Police said that Don Zirkel, of Bethpage, was disturbing shoppers at the Lake Grove mall with his T-shirt, which had what they described as "graphic anti-war images." Zirkel, a deacon at Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal in Wyandanch, said his shirt had the death tolls of American military personnel and Iraqis - 4,000 and 1 million - and the words "Dead" and "Enough." The shirt also has three blotches resembling blood splatters.

Police said in a release last night that Zirkel was handing out anti-war pamphlets to mallgoers and that mall security told him to stop and turn his shirt inside out. Zirkel refused to turn his shirt inside out and wouldn't leave, police said. Security placed him on "civilian arrest" and called police.
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  • Flannel ShirtFlannel Shirt Posts: 1,021
    God Bless America, where we stand up for what is right in this world, where we get mad as hell, and deceide we are not going to take it anymore. Where we rally togehter for a common good and protest offensive T-Shirts.

    Fuck this mall.
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  • rage against tmrage against tm Posts: 106
    tee shirt censorship.. i was told that i couldn't vote in the last election because i was wearing a farenheit 911 shirt. after some hell raisin (reading the shirt aloud in polling place) i voted..went home and got my neighbor to wear it when she went in, also was made to move my anti war sign with #'s dead 1 ft away from neighborhood rd(sent the zoning man out to rrl md at least 1 hr dr. for this). if it bothers people it's worth it! keep rockin the boat and honor this man
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    sue police for violation of the right to freedom of expression.

    If it wasn't inciting a riot, they should have their badges.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    sue police for violation of the right to freedom of expression.

    If it wasn't inciting a riot, they should have their badges.
    ACLU could/should get behind this if they had any balls.
  • JaneNYJaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Commy wrote:
    ACLU could/should get behind this if they had any balls.

    Its not to do with balls, its to do with funding. They are completely privately funded and can't afford to take every case that needs taking.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Boycott the place.
  • ClariceClarice Posts: 256
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Must have been a town called Orwellian Nightmare USA...

    http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-liwar305631629mar30,0,1085417.story

    An 80-year-old church deacon was removed from the Smith Haven Mall yesterday in a wheelchair and arrested by police for refusing to remove a T-shirt protesting the Iraq War.

    Police said that Don Zirkel, of Bethpage, was disturbing shoppers at the Lake Grove mall with his T-shirt, which had what they described as "graphic anti-war images." Zirkel, a deacon at Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal in Wyandanch, said his shirt had the death tolls of American military personnel and Iraqis - 4,000 and 1 million - and the words "Dead" and "Enough." The shirt also has three blotches resembling blood splatters.

    Police said in a release last night that Zirkel was handing out anti-war pamphlets to mallgoers and that mall security told him to stop and turn his shirt inside out. Zirkel refused to turn his shirt inside out and wouldn't leave, police said. Security placed him on "civilian arrest" and called police.

    Sometimes, the war start´s in own home.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    JaneNY wrote:
    Its not to do with balls, its to do with funding. They are completely privately funded and can't afford to take every case that needs taking.

    pro bono is still an option...especially for the ACLU. you would think that would be the case here.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Must have been a town called Orwellian Nightmare USA...

    http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-liwar305631629mar30,0,1085417.story

    An 80-year-old church deacon was removed from the Smith Haven Mall yesterday in a wheelchair and arrested by police for refusing to remove a T-shirt protesting the Iraq War.

    Police said that Don Zirkel, of Bethpage, was disturbing shoppers at the Lake Grove mall with his T-shirt, which had what they described as "graphic anti-war images." Zirkel, a deacon at Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal in Wyandanch, said his shirt had the death tolls of American military personnel and Iraqis - 4,000 and 1 million - and the words "Dead" and "Enough." The shirt also has three blotches resembling blood splatters.

    Police said in a release last night that Zirkel was handing out anti-war pamphlets to mallgoers and that mall security told him to stop and turn his shirt inside out. Zirkel refused to turn his shirt inside out and wouldn't leave, police said. Security placed him on "civilian arrest" and called police.


    he did more wearing that t-shirt then 99% of the "anti-war" posters from this board... i bet $20 on that
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    my2hands wrote:
    he did more wearing that t-shirt then 99% of the "anti-war" posters from this board... i bet $20 on that
    I'll take that bet
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Must have been a town called Orwellian Nightmare USA...

    http://www.newsday.com/news/local/nassau/ny-liwar305631629mar30,0,1085417.story

    An 80-year-old church deacon was removed from the Smith Haven Mall yesterday in a wheelchair and arrested by police for refusing to remove a T-shirt protesting the Iraq War.

    Police said that Don Zirkel, of Bethpage, was disturbing shoppers at the Lake Grove mall with his T-shirt, which had what they described as "graphic anti-war images." Zirkel, a deacon at Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal in Wyandanch, said his shirt had the death tolls of American military personnel and Iraqis - 4,000 and 1 million - and the words "Dead" and "Enough." The shirt also has three blotches resembling blood splatters.

    Police said in a release last night that Zirkel was handing out anti-war pamphlets to mallgoers and that mall security told him to stop and turn his shirt inside out. Zirkel refused to turn his shirt inside out and wouldn't leave, police said. Security placed him on "civilian arrest" and called police.


    thank god we're fighting for democracy in iraq....:rolleyes:
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The land of the free.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The land of the free.
    provided you can pay for it apparently
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