Internet addiction statistics; substitute for social interaction

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=120&a=4297

One Thomas Hintz, psychologist at the Mannheim Central Institute for Mental health, in an interview with netzeitung.de today (November 19th) warns of internet addiction among youths and adult singles, as a consequence of fear of social contacts, lack of self-esteem or depression. Studies in the USA and Berlin estimate, that 10% of all internet users are in danger of becoming addicted. Such addicts spend a mean time of 35-40 hours per week in the internet, satisfying their social needs, instead of searching for information.

In another report in netzeitung.de from January 12th 2007, a Berlin psychologist, Andreas Koch (from Caritas) was quoted, describing internet addicts as "walking dead, who spent 10-15 hours on the net, without eating, drinking or washing sufficiently," many of them living on Hartz IV and step by step saying good-bye to real life. The effects, once access to the computer is taken away, are similar to those of alcoholics or drug addicts. In extreme cases, according to Koch, the only way to deal with the addiction is complete abstinence, so that after 3-4 weeks their heads are clear again. Last year the Berlin Caritas had founded a therapy group for "internet-junkies." According to Caritas, more than one million internet users in Germany show signs of being addicted, while for at least 3-4 million people the use of this medium is called problematic.

On November 23rd, the German Society for Psychatrics, Psychotherapy and Neurology will hold a symposium in Berlin on reasons, consequences and therapeutic possibilities for internet addiction.
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  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    it is kinda pathetic when people prefer to read words on a computer monitor rather than engage in actual social interaction, even when it's offered to them. I'm certainly not any social butterfly, but I much prefer actual human contact. when it comes down to hiding behind a computer screen is for the most part meaningless, but some get too caught up it to ever realize that...it's a pity really.


    sure there's times when the net can be mildly entertaining but I usually log on out of boredom...like now for instance....it's after 5 am and i can't sleep once again :(
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  • 810wmb810wmb Posts: 849
    if i practiced guitar and bass as much as i'm on the net, i would be killer by now...


    although, i'm freakin' great already
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Would you say that life has improved or digressed with this "addiction"?

    I have found that my commitment or "addiction" has tremendously changed my entire perspective about my presence in this universe, mostly on a positive side.

    Does your participation interfere with your priorities? Or does your participation help you to find a path to make yourself a better human?
    it is kinda pathetic when people prefer to read words on a computer monitor rather than engage in actual social interaction, even when it's offered to them.
    Beggin to differ with this comment because some may have lives with people that deliver plenty of interaction but may not be healthy interaction. Many interrrelationships have developed between "beloved humans" can be exceptional and extremely fruitful for a person's personal, evolving, and external Being..

    having an opportunity to observe and process insights from a diverse population is a tremendous benefit...

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    prism wrote:
    it is kinda pathetic when people prefer to read words on a computer monitor rather than engage in actual social interaction, even when it's offered to them. I'm certainly not any social butterfly, but I much prefer actual human contact. when it comes down to hiding behind a computer screen is for the most part meaningless, but some get too caught up it to ever realize that...it's a pity really.

    i don't know about that. i think that assumes that the people doing this would be out there socializing instead. it sounds like they're cripplingly insecure and shy people. if not for the internet, it would be tv or books or whatever. i think the source is sad and unfortunate, not pathetic. i think the choice of outlet (reading words on a computer screen) is irrelevant. i'm not sure these people "PREFER their internet lives. i think it's their only choice. i can't see most people turning down friends to sit online... most of the folks doing this are likely those who already have no friends or social skills and this is the only place they get anything approximating that kind of contact.

    i know there are some around here. i mean, look how many people we have here with like 10,000 posts... shit. :D

    seriously though, this made me feel better. compared to those stats, i'm not bad ;) and i've never had message pit withdrawal.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    i don't know about that. i think that assumes that the people doing this would be out there socializing instead. it sounds like they're cripplingly insecure and shy people. if not for the internet, it would be tv or books or whatever. i think the source is sad and unfortunate, not pathetic. i think the choice of outlet (reading words on a computer screen) is irrelevant. i'm not sure these people "PREFER their internet lives. i think it's their only choice. i can't see most people turning down friends to sit online... most of the folks doing this are likely those who already have no friends or social skills and this is the only place they get anything approximating that kind of contact.

    i know there are some around here. i mean, look how many people we have here with like 10,000 posts... shit. :D

    seriously though, this made me feel better. compared to those stats, i'm not bad ;) and i've never had message pit withdrawal.


    sure. however some that turn down friends to sit online tend to exhibit passive-aggressive behaviors that they wouldn't have to answer to within a relationship with real friends. online it's very easy for them to ignore questions or people, or even twist things around to fault those that call them out on their passive-aggressive behavior. where as in real life they don't have friends or social skills because of those very same passive-aggressive behaviors they exhibit to people both online and in person.

    also there's some of these folks around here as well as those that are just too shy and insecure to have any social interaction with others, other than what they find online.
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  • KDH12KDH12 Posts: 2,096
    I have not left the house in three weeks and refresh the pit every five minutes does that mean I have a problem
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    I was addicted to WoW for a long time, this is my first week of not playing in a long time, i just told everyone that I quit. I am about to put my character on ebay and get about 1k for him.

    That game sucks the life out of people.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    Commy wrote:
    I was addicted to WoW for a long time, this is my first week of not playing in a long time, i just told everyone that I quit. I am about to put my character on ebay and get about 1k for him.

    That game sucks the life out of people.

    you can sell a video game character online for $1000? that's fucking nuts.
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    KDH12 wrote:
    I have not left the house in three weeks and refresh the pit every five minutes does that mean I have a problem

    nope, nothing wrong with you, you're just exhibiting normal adolescent behaviour ;):D
  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    prism wrote:
    sure. however some that turn down friends to sit online tend to exhibit passive-aggressive behaviors that they wouldn't have to answer to within a relationship with real friends. online it's very easy for them to ignore questions or people, or even twist things around to fault those that call them out on their passive-aggressive behavior. where as in real life they don't have friends or social skills because of those very same passive-aggressive behaviors they exhibit to people both online and in person.

    also there's some of these folks around here as well as those that are just too shy and insecure to have any social interaction with others, other than what they find online.

    I still think Soulsinging is right.

    on number of occasions i've been turned down as a friend after just one or two days of meeting them or even online correspondence. Usually i don't have passive-aggressive or just agressive behaviour, and i certainly don't act like that with people whom i met recently. when i meet people try to be nice and entertaining. and this doesn't get me anywhere.

    it's just people these days are full of shit. there are also people who like to stick in their own little groups and don't like to mix with anyone else.
  • prismprism Posts: 2,440
    genie wrote:
    I still think Soulsinging is right.

    on number of occasions i've been turned down as a friend after just one or two days of meeting them or even online correspondence. Usually i don't have passive-aggressive or just agressive behaviour, and i certainly don't act like that with people whom i met recently. when i meet people try to be nice and entertaining. and this doesn't get me anywhere.

    it's just people these days are full of shit. there are also people who like to stick in their own little groups and don't like to mix with anyone else.

    I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm talking about those people that do the turning down of having contact with friends because of their own passive-aggressive behaviors. they'd rather be on-line where they're much less likely to be called out on (and if they do they can ignore it) their passive-aggressive behavior.
    I know what you're saying but I'm not talking about those that get turned down as a friend despite their being nice and entertaining. that certainly happens but that's not the folks that i was refering to
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    I'm sure glad this place is my basic entertainment during the work day. I sure wouldn't want to be on here during hours that belong to me. ie: weekends or week nights.
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    prism wrote:
    I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm talking about those people that do the turning down of having contact with friends because of their own passive-aggressive behaviors. they'd rather be on-line where they're much less likely to be called out on (and if they do they can ignore it) their passive-aggressive behavior.
    I know what you're saying but I'm not talking about those that get turned down as a friend despite their being nice and entertaining. that certainly happens but that's not the folks that i was refering to

    ok, i see now. :)
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    even flow? wrote:
    I'm sure glad this place is my basic entertainment during the work day. I sure wouldn't want to be on here during hours that belong to me. ie: weekends or week nights.
    hi! I can remember a day when someone very near and dear to me would question how another human can use work time to interact on line and then I met this amazing human who showed me that sometimes a person's work is the interactions presented at boards like these. I come to publicly apologize for my small and limited thinking style...

    as for the other idea about people being shy...Divine God knows I am not shy when it comes to light conversation, but to take a discussion to the depths that some folks do, I am like a 3ft tall human in a basketball allstars game. I have found the conversations I have read here and many other places where I choose to absorb, have allowed me to apply some principles in my daily life that have proven to be profitable.

    As for the passive aggressive types, I think when we treat others how we would like to be treated, we simply can't go wrong...It's all about our intent...

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  • BlyssBlyss Posts: 166
    melodious wrote:
    hi! I can remember a day when someone very near and dear to me would question how another human can use work time to interact on line and then I met this amazing human who showed me that sometimes a person's work is the interactions presented at boards like these. I come to publicly apologize for my small and limited thinking style...

    as for the other idea about people being shy...Divine God knows I am not shy when it comes to light conversation, but to take a discussion to the depths that some folks do, I am like a 3ft tall human in a basketball allstars game. I have found the conversations I have read here and many other places where I choose to absorb, have allowed me to apply some principles in my daily life that have proven to be profitable.

    As for the passive aggressive types, I think when we treat others how we would like to be treated, we simply can't go wrong...It's all about our intent...

    Thank you for reading this...I hope all this touch finds a bit of love shining...

    i find what you are saying true. There are defiently positives to the online interactions, i have made a few friends which i have met online, so positives came out of that. I find some people to be very negative about online interactions and there can be a lot of fear around it but i can see both positives and negatives, as someone who is shy and has battled illness spending time online can be kind of "easy" rather than staying active, meeting people etc. and this is something that can be a downfall it takes away peoples want to stay active and such.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Hey guys! Who's turn for donuts!

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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Down my local pub are a load of illiterate wankers, pissing their trousers and ranting about football. Is that genuine social interaction?
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Down my local pub are a load of illiterate wankers, pissing their trousers and ranting about football. Is that genuine social interaction?

    That's a better point than anyone seems to be willing to argue, Fins.

    That said, I've made some real friends here, just in this particular PJ junction of cyberspace. Some I have met "on the outside", some I hope to meet yet.

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