911, Iraq, PNAC, All Roads Lead to Israel

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
Some political intellectuals here may want to give this article some consideration.

http://www.ziopedia.org/en/articles/9%1011/911,_iraq,_pnac,_all_roads_lead_to_israel/

"When some people hear the word "conspiracy" they start thinking of a tinfoil hat crowd and invoke images of space aliens, paranoia, or a variety of cults and nonsense. Well there are a lot of wacky conspiracies about many things but that does not mean that conspiracies don't or can't happen. For example, the Iran Contra Affair was a massive government conspiracy hidden from the press and public for years. It happened in my life time and it involved billions of dollars and multiple countries. It has since been admitted to but many of the people involved did not get into trouble. They were given presidential pardons either by Bush Sr. or Bill Clinton. Most of them still have jobs and are working in the government right now! That is a fact. The CIA and Mossad have gotten away with countless covert operations and false flags. There are too many to name. So for those who think a covert operation or conspiracy can't happen, you need to open a history book, or at the very least start doing some online research. To just reject conspiracies as a whole just because there are some kooks who think the moon landing was fake or Elvis or Tu Pac are still alive etc is not a reason to just reject the concept all together. I have had people tell me conspiracies never work and that they can't be done because someone always snitches. Well that argument just does not float in reality. There are way too many counter examples of successful conspiracies and Hoaxes."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    will you get off this PNAC fantasy already. you know that particular think tank don't exist anymore right?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    will you get off this PNAC fantasy already. you know that particular think tank don't exist anymore right?

    It doesn't? What do you base that on?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    It doesn't? What do you base that on?

    the PNAC was a small think tank in washington. I saw an interview with the guy who wrote most of the stuff that 9/11 wackjobs use as a basis for their bullshit. he laughed it off and confirmed they do not exist anymore. just look at their website. there is nothing new for a couple years now.

    but take your bullshit and run with it. some new recruits are bound to buy into it. internet is a powerful brainwashing tool.
  • PNAC's staff and directors as of mid-2007 include:

    - William Kristol (chairman)
    - Robert Kagan
    - Bruce Jackson
    - Mark Gerson
    - Randy Scheunemann
    - Ellen Bork (deputy director)
    - Gary Schmitt (senior fellow)
    - Thomas Donnelly (senior fellow)
    - Reuel Gerecht (director of the Middle East Initiative)
    - Timothy Lehmann (assistant director)
    - Michael Goldfarb (research associate)

    http://www.newamericancentury.org/aboutpnac.htm

    :rolleyes:
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    PNAC's staff and directors as of mid-2007 include:

    where on the site does it say mid 07?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    the PNAC was a small think tank in washington. I saw an interview with the guy who wrote most of the stuff that 9/11 wackjobs use as a basis for their bullshit. he laughed it off and confirmed they do not exist anymore. just look at their website. there is nothing new for a couple years now.

    but take your bullshit and run with it. some new recruits are bound to buy into it. internet is a powerful brainwashing tool.


    So they haven't updated their website as of 2006, so what? that means nothing. They still have active directors and a staff as of today. It's a bible...it's philosophy. That doesn't just somehow stop.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    where on the site does it say mid 07?

    http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1535

    take a read. You can also call them if you want.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1535

    take a read. You can also call them if you want.

    they interviewed the guy who wrote your bible here. they all had a good laugh how people like you seem to think it actual US government policy or something.

    http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=240087

    maybe it will be on google video soon.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    So they haven't updated their website as of 2006, so what? that means nothing. They still have active directors and a staff as of today. It's a bible...it's philosophy. That doesn't just somehow stop.

    its not a bible and yes it does somehow stop. think tanks come and go all the time. alex jones has you hook line and sinker.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    they interviewed the guy who wrote your bible here. they all had a good laugh how people like you seem to think it actual US government policy or something.

    http://www.history.com/shows.do?action=detail&episodeId=240087

    maybe it will be on google video soon.


    So rightweb is lying?

    Yeah...ok sure. Don't think so.

    All you have to do is look around to know how alive and well the philosophy is.

    You're out to lunch on this one.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    its not a bible and yes it does somehow stop. think tanks come and go all the time. alex jones has you hook line and sinker.


    Philosophy... look in the dictionary if necessary.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    So rightweb is lying?

    Yeah...ok sure. Don't think so.

    All you have to do is look around to know how alive and well the philosophy is.

    You're out to lunch on this one.

    also funny how their phone number is disconnected. rightweb couldnt be lying could it?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Philosophy... look in the dictionary if necessary.

    get off your PNAC wetdream already. they are very insignificant organization that, at most, have a dusted office somewhere in washington. life outside of alex jones does exist.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    also funny how their phone number is disconnected. rightweb couldnt be lying could it?

    You don't know who they are? hmm

    You tell me if they would be lying... http://rightweb.irc-online.org/about.php

    Oh wait there's no such thing as a neo-con in your world.

    I almost forgot who I was talking to.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu wrote:
    get off your PNAC wetdream already. they are very insignificant organization that, at most, have a dusted office somewhere in washington. life outside of alex jones does exist.

    Your ignorance couldn't be any greater.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    You don't know who they are? hmm

    You tell me if they would be lying... http://rightweb.irc-online.org/about.php

    Oh wait there's no such thing as a neo-con in your world.

    I almost forgot who I was talking to.

    I dont give a flying fuck who they are. sorry I dont suck up every little thing I read on the net.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Your ignorance couldn't be any greater.

    now you want to throw some personal attacks. do me a favor, call the PNAC and ask for Dick. see if he's still there.

    oops, phone number is disconnected. get off the internet already. you are too much of an easy target for, well anything.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    So they haven't updated their website as of 2006, so what? that means nothing. They still have active directors and a staff as of today. It's a bible...it's philosophy. That doesn't just somehow stop.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6189793.stm
    The ambitions proclaimed when the neo-cons' mission statement "The Project for the New American Century" was declared in 1997 have turned into disappointment and recriminations as the crisis in Iraq has grown.

    "The Project for the New American Century" has been reduced to a voice-mail box and a ghostly website. A single employee has been left to wrap things up.

    the PNAC is done. The people associated with it still exist and there is some infighting and differences of opinion. Some hvae gone to AEI as fellows, but the PNAC is gone. Why don't you start bashing the AEI so at least you're up to date
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    I dont give a flying fuck who they are. sorry I dont suck up every little thing I read on the net.

    ig·no·rance
    Pronunciation[ig-ner-uhns]
    –noun
    the state or fact of being ignorant; lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • chopitdown wrote:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6189793.stm
    The ambitions proclaimed when the neo-cons' mission statement "The Project for the New American Century" was declared in 1997 have turned into disappointment and recriminations as the crisis in Iraq has grown.

    "The Project for the New American Century" has been reduced to a voice-mail box and a ghostly website. A single employee has been left to wrap things up.

    the PNAC is done. The people associated with it still exist and there is some infighting and differences of opinion. Some hvae gone to AEI as fellows, but the PNAC is gone. Why don't you start bashing the AEI so at least you're up to date


    Sorry...read the link in post #8
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Come on every one knows that it's the Bilderberg Group that is behind all the world's events.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Sorry...read the link in post #8

    sorry...read the link in post #19
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Sorry...read the link in post #8

    hey, i did this really cool experiment (you can try it too!!) where I called the number listed in your website...the number is not in service. So sorry, read the post again that says your website could be wrong.
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    sorry...read the link in post #19


    Duh.... I did.... it's a year old. Rightweb's information was updated Aug 17th 2007. And take some time to understand who they are maybe.

    You don't seem to read much of anything before uneducated opinions start falling out of your head.

    see post #20
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • chopitdown wrote:
    hey, i did this really cool experiment (you can try it too!!) where I called the number listed in your website...the number is not in service. So sorry, read the post again that says your website could be wrong.

    Well, it was accurate as of Aug 17'th 2007. It's right there if you read it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Sorry...read the link in post #8

    you are so blinded and biased against things that conservatives post that you can't even see that I agree with you in some instances. the pnac is gone; HOWEVER (that means there is something more) the people in it have gone to other thinktanks, namely AEI. You will always have people with different views and with different opinions on how to get things done. Unless you get rid of all of them you will always have differing views.
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Duh.... I did.... it's a year old. Rightweb's information was updated Aug 17th 2007. And take some time to understand who they are maybe.

    You don't seem to read much of anything before uneducated opinions start falling out of your head.

    see post #20

    so rightweb posted some names and that makes the organization thriving and well?

    they have no offices, no meeting rooms, a website that hasnt been updated in years. join us in reality sometime.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Well, it was accurate as of Aug 17'th 2007. It's right there if you read it.

    well as of nov 13th the number doesn't work. Always check your sources; that's the first lesson in citing something.
    make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    so rightweb posted some names and that makes the organization thriving and well?

    they have no offices, no meeting rooms, a website that hasnt been updated in years. join us in reality sometime.

    Of course you're somehow bigger and more knowledgeable than their entire organization.

    stop waving post #20 like a flag...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • chopitdown wrote:
    well as of nov 13th the number doesn't work. Always check your sources; that's the first lesson in citing something.


    Even a year ago (or a few months) isn't so long ago now is it. 9/11 was in 2001 but the effects of that are still pretty heavy aren't they

    Split those hairs...and ignore the reality of it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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