One world currency...do you think it's coming?

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4

This sounds pretty outrageous, and frightening at the same time.

I thought it would only be North America to form a unified currency, it seems perhaps the sights have been set a little higher...

What do you imagine the repercussions would be to having one global currency?

Is this new world order by default? i.e. "give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"?!?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4

    This sounds pretty outrageous, and frightening at the same time.

    I thought it would only be North America to form a unified currency, it seems perhaps the sights have been set a little higher...

    What do you imagine the repercussions would be to having one global currency?

    Is this new world order by default? i.e. "give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"?!?

    Wow.
    Glen Beck is starting to sound like Alex Jones.
    And i'm not sure that is a bad thing. ;)

    "Endgame"
    "New World Order"
    "New Financial Order"
    "One World Currency"
    "One World Financial System"

    ooh boy.

    I do know this,
    this Sarkozy fuck (french president, sitting EU president) is extremely tight with the Rothschilds. So anything coming out of his mouth regarding world financial regulation or such you can immediately take to be NWO propaganda, through and through.

    I think a "one world currency" is a few years off, at best.
    Getting rid of the dollar is going to be a monumental task,
    and right now there is NO reason to. It has had a ridiculous rebound (now around 83 on the USDX) thanks to the rest of the world inflating to match.

    But this talk of a "New World Financial Order" should be very concerning to all.
    The fat cats at the top of the top are jumping all over themselves to pull this off. It's their fucking wetdream.

    And if they get their carbon tax\carbon credit legislation pushed through (and they WILL), they WILL have a "one world currency" of sorts.

    Carbon credits will simply replace gold and any other medium (like "IMF Credits") as the global reserve currency (from the horses mouth) ... ugh.

    The future is looking more like an Alex Jones nightmare by the minute.
    :( :mad: :eek: :(
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  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    There will be no Amero. We will not be a part of a North American Union, and America will have no part of a One World Government

    Too many Americans, myself included, will outright revolt.

    For mor ifno on this fight and what you can do check out

    http://www.conservativeusa.org/

    Yeah, it's a conservative sight, but these guys are at the frontlines against the attack on our sovereignty. And right on the money here.

    Probably the biggest challenge America will ever have faced...glad it's getting more attention.

    I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4

    This sounds pretty outrageous, and frightening at the same time.

    I thought it would only be North America to form a unified currency, it seems perhaps the sights have been set a little higher...

    What do you imagine the repercussions would be to having one global currency?

    Is this new world order by default? i.e. "give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"?!?
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    YES, you know what's happening with the stock markets and the economy is NOT by accident. Someone already coin it an Economic 9/II to later implement the system of their choosing.

    Peace
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  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    I know absolutely nothing about Hal Turner, so if you're going to bash me for posting one of his clips, be gentle :p I stumbled across this yesterday:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJs&eurl=http://waronyou.com/2008/10/hal-turner-shows-new-amero-currency

    Even if he's a complete fraud, and the amero he's holding is fake, he describes how the amero would/could come about in this vblog.

    Personally....I think it's coming, yes (and not because of this clip) edit: the amero, that is....If a one world currency is on the horizon, it's probably a long way off).
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    g under p wrote:
    YES, you know what's happening with the stock markets and the economy is NOT by accident. Someone already coin it an Economic 9/II to later implement the system of their choosing.

    Peace
    Yeah, Reagan pulled that shit in the 80's. It was a trillion dollar turn around. 1 trillion dollars were shifted in the system. Most of it went to already very wealthy corporations. It was the beginning (I think) of modern neo liberalism. So many social programs were cut I can't name them all, won't even try. And wages dropped, unions were rendered impotent, to some extent, the poor got poorer and the rich got richer.

    And this shift of tax dollars from public programs to the private sector, its only been increased, and this current crisis gives them plenty of reasons to expand on those same neoliberal bullshit socialist policies Reagan initiated in the 80's.

    If it is an economic 9/11, I'm beginning to think the US was behind the real 9/11, since this crisis is only going to help big business.

    Government guaranteeing private profit, seems to be their primary role.
  • i hope so. all this nationalism never really made sense to me anyways, we're all human aren't we? and to those who panic that the world economy would fall apart, etc. etc., at its root, people control the economy, it's a man-made creation, so lets tweak it and make it work
    "Ah, life is a gate, a way, a path to Paradise anyway, why not live for fun and joy and love or some sort of girl by a fireside, why not go to your desire and LAUGH..."
  • they should just call it the dollar, then we'd get behind it.

    wait, isnt that already the world currency?
  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    i hope so. all this nationalism never really made sense to me anyways,

    I suspect you're too busy to find out, also.
    yours is a sentiment that really frightens me...
  • LesbelgesLesbelges Posts: 434
    No way in hell it's ever going to happen any time soon!

    Anyone who thinks this is possible does not have knowledge of basic macro economics.

    If there was a single currency then no country would be able to manage its monetary policy (i.e. No Fed) i.e.:

    -No increasing/decreasing money supply
    -No cutting/raising interest rates

    Here are some examples:
    -Imagine if the US was experiencing high inflation (which is fought by reducing the money supply or by increasing interest rates) well the US would not be able to do anything since it would not have those tools.

    Now, I think that for the world as a whole and very idealistically this would be a great idea. However, I don't think that the US would ever go for a single world currency while it is still a super power.
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  • These quotes from David Rockefeller send a chill down my spine. I can only imagine what the Rothschild's say behind closed doors. This guy is one whacked out and demented dude... He's 93...so that's some kind of solace.


    "Some even believe we (Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - One World, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
    - David Rockefeller, Memoirs, 2002

    "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a World Government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries."
    - David Rockefeller to Trilateral Commission in 1991

    "You know, gentlemen, that I do not owe any personal income tax. But nevertheless, I send a small check, now and then, to the Internal Revenue Service out of the kindness of my heart."
    - David Rockefeller, before a Congressional Committee
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    Lesbelges wrote:
    Now, I think that for the world as a whole and very idealistically this would be a great idea. However, I don't think that the US would ever go for a single world currency while it is still a super power.

    We invented democracy, we invented free market capitalism.
    Why is there so much sentiment to worry about what the relative baby
    democracies, or any other society, think?

    I used to think my dad was an overbearing a-hole gorwing up...but then I grew up...and I see he was right certainly more often that I was..

    This just seems so crazy to me, this globalist ideal. Why not just take a match to the constitution while you're at it?
  • prytoj wrote:
    I suspect you're too busy to find out, also.
    yours is a sentiment that really frightens me...

    unfortunately, i understand redmosquito10's sentiment, and i to am afraid of what the seeming prevalence of such similar opinions portends for our and every country on earth.

    I actually even sympathize with the notion that globalized communication and human integration should eventually lead to a global decision making process shared in equally by all nations. It sounds beautiful, and maybe there could be such a harmonious world someday.

    However, the current reality is such that those pushing for all such global regulations are doing so to subserve the interests of at best 1% of humanity.

    If your intentions with the abolition of nationalist interests is to promote the health and prosperity of all man kind, you should probably think twice about supporting any proposed eco-political decisions backed exclusively by the top 1% themselves.

    ???
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  • LesbelgesLesbelges Posts: 434
    prytoj wrote:
    We invented democracy, we invented free market capitalism.
    Why is there so much sentiment to worry about what the relative baby
    democracies, or any other society, think?

    I used to think my dad was an overbearing a-hole gorwing up...but then I grew up...and I see he was right certainly more often that I was..

    This just seems so crazy to me, this globalist ideal. Why not just take a match to the constitution while you're at it?

    Maybe you misunderstood me, single currency and single government is just never going to happen.

    Who are you saying invented democracy?
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    prytoj wrote:
    We invented democracy, we invented free market capitalism.
    Why is there so much sentiment to worry about what the relative baby
    democracies, or any other society, think?

    I used to think my dad was an overbearing a-hole gorwing up...but then I grew up...and I see he was right certainly more often that I was..

    This just seems so crazy to me, this globalist ideal. Why not just take a match to the constitution while you're at it?
    we invented democracy and "free market capitalism"? Really? damn. I had no idea.

    So...why don't we practice any of them?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    I thought the African people invented democracy.
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    unfortunately, i understand redmosquito10's sentiment, and i to am afraid of what the seeming prevalence of such similar opinions portends for our and every country on earth.

    I actually even sympathize with the notion that globalized communication and human integration should eventually lead to a global decision making process shared in equally by all nations. It sounds beautiful, and maybe there could be such a harmonious world someday.

    However, the current reality is such that those pushing for all such global regulations are doing so to subserve the interests of at best 1% of humanity.

    If your intentions with the abolition of nationalist interests is to promote the health and prosperity of all man kind, you should probably think twice about supporting any proposed eco-political decisions backed exclusively by the top 1% themselves.

    ???
    exactly. The movement we are talking about here has nothing to do humanitarian actions and philanthropy thru cooperation....the people pushin this agenda are the people behind the current economic sysem, which makes them the catalysts for every global issue or conflict involving money ( in other words EVERY issue or conflict).
    We cannot support this particular globalist vision, or things will only get worse.
  • prytojprytoj Posts: 536
    That was a whole bunch of fancy, but you're correct.

    The sentiment is increasing, and alarming.

    And globalization sounds very pleasant and idealistic, but really means power consolidation,

    Furthermore, it violates one of the founding priciples of our democracy: no taxation without representation! This is why one currency, one world government is impossible in America.

    It's hard for the rules not to serve the 1%, since that's who makes them.

    Why in the hell would you want an even more distant, more consolidated government?

    If that's for you, may I suggest the European Union?
    beautiful scam
    unfortunately, i understand redmosquito10's sentiment, and i to am afraid of what the seeming prevalence of such similar opinions portends for our and every country on earth.

    I actually even sympathize with the notion that globalized communication and human integration should eventually lead to a global decision making process shared in equally by all nations. It sounds beautiful, and maybe there could be such a harmonious world someday.

    However, the current reality is such that those pushing for all such global regulations are doing so to subserve the interests of at best 1% of humanity.

    If your intentions with the abolition of nationalist interests is to promote the health and prosperity of all man kind, you should probably think twice about supporting any proposed eco-political decisions backed exclusively by the top 1% themselves.

    ???
  • Lesbelges wrote:
    Maybe you misunderstood me, single currency and single government is just never going to happen.

    I don't think anyone of note (ok, outside of Glen Beck :cool:) has ever proposed a "one world currency", it's an oversimplification by Mr. Beck of an ideal held by a small cloister of the most greedy and powerhungry.

    Regional currencies are certainly desirable by someone. One need only look at the euro to prove that one. The converse of your sentiment -- that the lack of autonomous fiscal control leads to an unmanageable economy -- is that such regionalization allows for a more tightly held power over a larger base. The Money Masters can pull a LOT of strings by affecting the inflation rate of an entire landmass.

    However, getting away from his red-herring "global currency" misnomer ...

    there are very real plans and desires to completely destroy and rebuild the existing financial order.

    You need only open your ears and eyes to recognize this propaganda effort afoot by the elite everywhere. Sarkozy, Kissinger and his minions, the Rothschilds, Paulson, Bernanke, former Fed chairman, globalist class pet China, paid industry puppets (er,"analysts") on CNBC all day long ... EVERYWHERE ... you see these calls for "more global regulation" ...

    and DO NOT BE FOOLED with the intent behind it folks.
    DO NOT BE FOOLED!
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  • I'm beginning to see the latest steps Bush made to give the fed such broad and encompassing powers in a different light.

    I wonder if they're going to use this latest financial global crisis to enact more and more laws to set the framework for more centralized control in order to "prevent" it from happening again. That was the excuse Bush made in the first place. Hell it's probably already there, and just needs a bit of red tape snipped away for all I know. Perhaps this is what they really get down to at the Bilderberg meetings. ???

    Good ol top secret ultra elite Bilderberg meetings...that's just messed up right there btw.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies.
    - Thomas Jefferson
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • It was written long ago.
    It's coming.
    "In the age of darkness
    want to be enlightened"
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    prytoj wrote:
    We invented democracy, we invented free market capitalism.
    ?

    If it is possible (which is not even sure given the importance of conservative politics in America) I think a north american union would be a first step.
  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    Maybe. It's fine by me if it does.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4

    This sounds pretty outrageous, and frightening at the same time.

    I thought it would only be North America to form a unified currency, it seems perhaps the sights have been set a little higher...

    What do you imagine the repercussions would be to having one global currency?

    Is this new world order by default? i.e. "give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"?!?
    All of a sudden, boom, it's a narcotic and it's outlawed by FDA. What
    is the initial response of all these grey-haired fathers of psychiatry
    to making LSD an illegal substance? Protest, it's a bad thing, it's
    robbing us of a powerful psychotherapeutic agent, it's crippling our
    research efforts. These guys were hung out to dry. They were used by
    Intelligence Agencies to gather therapeutic use of LSD, interrogation
    use of LSD, psychotomenitic (sp) use of LSD and then when they had done
    their job, LSD was just cancelled from academia. It was made illegal,
    and then a whole disinformation campaign went along with that whereby
    LSD was transformed from this wonderful therapeutic agent whose use was
    advocated by the major leading figures in psychiatry into this horrible
    thing that made children jump out of windows and bust up their
    chromosomes. It's called a "disinformation campaign". And it caught the
    leaders of psychiatry totally by su rprise, which is hard to believe
    since psychiatrists are such clever political strategists in general.
    What about this whole creating Manchurian Candidate stuff which we see
    now for a fact has been going on since WWII? And according to
    Estabrooks, even back to WWI? We now have established for a proven fact
    that was going on during WWII, and the CIA was working on it in
    Artichoke and Bluebird from 1951-53. The Korean War only started in
    1950. The disinformation was that our boys went overseas there, they
    got shot down, they got captured, the Communist Chinese worked on them
    with these strange techniques we don't understand. The person who coined
    the term "brainwashing" in a book was Edwin Hunter. He's a career CIA
    officer. This was a term coined by the CIA to explain what was happening
    to our boys in North Korea who were making bold statements about germ
    warfare activities they had been involved in. Now it could be that part
    of the Communist brainwashing strategy was to talk to these guys about
    the ethical improprieties of biological warfare and bombing they
    actually had been doing in North Korea. In any rate, they come home as
    Manchurian Candidates. We are all bent out of shape because our boys are
    talking Communism, so we say that we have got to start studying this
    reactively and defensively because of what the Commies are doing. That
    is the disinformation myth that has been adhered to by the Military
    Intelligence community steadfastly from the Korean War to the present.
    It's totally bullshit. It's disinformation. It's not a fact. It's a
    made up story to cover up the fact that actually we had operational
    offensive use of this psychological warfare technology already in place
    in WWII. We have a major disinformation campaign which has basically
    fooled mental health professions and the general public concerning
    brainwashing, concerning LSD. Fortunately those are the only two
    examples in human history. This analysis does not apply to the False
    Memory movement. There is no way it could conceivably be possible, you
    will all agree, that there could be any nervousness in the Intelligence
    Community about Manchurian Candidates spilling out into civilian
    psychotherapies and that a disinformation program based on False
    Memories would be required. It is obviously absurd. Nobody but a CIA
    conspiracy nut would ever suggest that. I guarantee you that that
    thought has never even crossed my mind until it just spontaneously
    appeared at this moment. So you see, actually, in fact, the idea that
    there could be a deliberate disinformation campaign element to the False
    Memory movement is perfectly plausible, consistent with history, and
    could be expected. There is bound to be some sort of disinformation
    strategy if in fact Manchurian Candidates have been leaking out into
    civilian psychotherapy. So here we have, with all of this
    documentation, all of this proof ... we know that it is perfectly
    possible that people we are seeing in therapy who are claiming to be
    victims of systematic military mind control experimentation are telling
    us about what actually happened to them. However, I am not a single
    step further ahead than I was four years ago on actually documenting
    that any single patient in treatment actually in fact was involved in
    these mind control experiments. There is no linkage at all from the
    current patients in treatment to this documentation. So whether we are
    ever going to get that or not, I don't know. (From audience: Mind
    Control and the Military can be found on America On-Line on the internet
    - "On Psych"-and there are websites). Apparently there is a lot of
    information about this on the web and on internet and AOl and elsewhere.
    But the problem is, I don't go to chat rooms very often, but most of it
    is totally banal, and silly and boring and a waste of time. So when you
    go into the stuff on mind control, how much is garbage that you are
    going to get, and how much is solid stuff that you can pursue and
    document are you going to get is my question. I have no idea what the
    answer is. But, as we all know, the truth is out there. (From the
    audience: "how would I go about documenting that a patient I, or
    somebody else, currently has in treatment, in fact was involved in that
    kind of experimentation?") Well, here's how the documentation has gone
    so far. By the way, I have done Freedom of Information Act requests on
    MONARCH at all Intelligence Agencies, and they have all denied it
    exists. The patient apparently has no source of contamination for
    specific MONARCH memories, but has the word Monarch in her mind, and has
    very specific detailed Monarch-type mind control memories. Her father
    basically abused her domestically and ritualistically, and then took her
    over to the mind control people. How she got there, what the transport
    mechanism was .. plane, car, location is all vague because she appears
    to have been all drugged out then transported. Is it possible that her
    father could have been this kind of person? Well, I have his military
    service records which I got through the Freedom of Informatiion Act, I
    have a lette r from him in prison where he is imprisoned for mob crime
    connections, I've got a mother and a sister corroborating the domestic
    incest, the sister with some patchy corroboration of ritualistic and
    mind control memories, I've got the father personally connected to Jack
    Ruby. That's as far as it goes. It's sort of circumstantial and
    intriguing. So the way I would attempt to document it would be if the
    person tells me (most people can't tell you the specific name of the
    doctor) but if somebody gives you a specific name of a doctor, and gives
    you a specific location, and you can establish that this doctor actually
    existed, and you can establish that in fact this doctor was a CIA
    employee, and you can establish that this person's father was imprisoned
    by the FBI as part of a Mafia raid by looking at the journal articles
    that the patient has, then you are starting to get closer and closer. So
    it is your basic investigative reporting type stuff. Name the specific
    base. Okay what do yo u know about the base? How did you get there?
    Tell me about some buildings? Tell me about personnel. Describe the
    uniforms. What was used? And then if you can get another subject who
    was there at the same time ... that's just the way it is. It is your
    basic investigative reporting. Which is way beyond being a therapist.
    There is no therapeutic obligation to do this. This is mega beyond duty
    to take collateral history. So I don't think there is any mystery as to
    how it would proceed. And it will proceed probably in the same way as
    the history of declassified information since WWII. In about, I think
    1988, stuff was released to the Senate and the Congress and then to the
    Press about all these radiation experiments. Nobody did anything. It
    didn't even get into the newspapers. It was in the public domain for
    five years before it finally hits the newspapers. Now we've got this
    government report that is 900 pages long on all the radiation
    experiments, including giving radiation to children and radiation to
    pregnant mothers and the children of those pregnancies dying of leukemia
    by age five. This is huge, big stuff. Everybody was apathetic, didn't
    think it was newsworthy, didn 't even put it as a little trailer item in
    the New York Ti mes. This is no longer vague. We know the specific
    names of people, when they died, whether it was plutonium or whatever
    was injected, the names of the doctors, the names of the medical schools
    where it was done, it's all keyed up for compensation, the government
    has set up a whole compensation mechanism. If we look at the Tuscagee
    Syphilis Study ... it is worse than the creation of Manchurian
    Candidates. It was set up in Tuscagee, Alabama in the 1940's. The
    experiment is-you've got 400 rural, dirt-poor black guys with active
    syphilis and 400 controls. These people are followed without treatment
    into the 1970's. The people who are involved in the Tuscagee Syphilis
    Study (it is a huge long list and I can't remember all the details of
    it) but it includes the County Medical Society, the administration of
    the study was actually taken over by the Centre of Disease Control, the
    Surgeon General, the American Heart Association, all kinds of people
    were witting, knowledgeable and awar e of the study and ap proved its
    ongoing nature well into the 60's and into the 70's, in complete
    violation of all known medical ethics. Well okay, that was kept kind of
    secret. Nobody heard about it except some of these medical bigwigs. No.
    I have a medical paper from the medical school published in 1965 called
    "Untreated Syphilis in a Male Negro - A 20 year follow-up". This stuff
    is published, right in the medical literature. It is looking everybody
    right in the face. What happens when you have 400 illiterate rural
    black guys with active syphilis untreated, for 40 years? Well, the
    outcome of the experiment is, you will be very surprised to hear, they
    don't do too well, they develop a lot of disease, and they die young.
    They do another thing. They breathe air. There is another behaviour
    that we can predict in these guys. They eat food. Going down the list?
    They urinate and defecate. Continuing along with basic human functions,
    they have sexual intercourse with women. Anybody who has been to medical
    school will tell you it is 100% guaranteed that if you take 400 black
    guys with syphil is and do not treat them, the rest of t heir lives, you
    are guaranteed to be creating cases of congenital syphilis. The entire
    medical community knows this as an elementary fact that you learn in
    first year medical school, it is published in the medical literature,
    and it's condoned by all levels of the old boys network in world
    medicine. This is totally unbelievable and completely factual. This
    Manchurian Candidate stuff is like Mickey Mouse Psych stuff. It's not
    even heavy duty. The nurse who was the head of the Tuscagee Syphilis
    study throughout its duration, actually got an award from the Public
    Health Service because of her work on the Tuscagee Syphilis Study. The
    individual guys have gone and testified at the Senate. You can read the
    book, "Bad Blood" and these guys are named as individual human beings.
    Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control
    research do we already know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was
    killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window
    because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb
  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4

    This sounds pretty outrageous, and frightening at the same time.

    I thought it would only be North America to form a unified currency, it seems perhaps the sights have been set a little higher...

    What do you imagine the repercussions would be to having one global currency?

    Is this new world order by default? i.e. "give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"?!?
    Which individual human beings who are victims of military mind control
    research do we already know? Harold Blauer, the tennis pro who was
    killed. Frank Olson who was killed because he jumped through a window
    because he took LSD mixed with Cointro by Sidney Gottlieb,
    administrative Head of MKULTRA who I talked to on the telephone. When
    was the Olson family compensated? He died in 1955 or something. They
    were compensated by the President in 1977 I think it was. The reason the
    wife and surviving children figured that in fact this was not a simple
    suicide was they read the Rockefeller Report on CIA activities published
    in 1975 in which the case was described without him being named. So,
    they are reading the Rockefeller Report, and they realize their
    husband/father was actually killed by experimental LSD and they are
    compensated for 3/4 of a million dollars. One of the people who
    testified at the Committee hearings at the S enate in 1975 was a
    technician for Amadeo Morazzi who was the guy who w as the Head of
    Edgeware Arsenal where Paul Hawk got his LSD and mescaline from who was
    funded by the Air Force while he was at the University of Minnesota.
    His research assistant whose name is Mary Ray(sp) was given a dose of
    experimental LSD which resulted in an acute psychotic state for which
    she was admitted to hospital for which I have her medical records, and I
    am in contact with her lawyer and I am going to go up and get her story
    in more detail. She talks about a room that was involved in the LSD
    research called "The Leaf Room" so when you were on your LSD trip that
    was administered by Amadeo Morazzi you were taken into the Leaf Room
    which was a room where all surfaces of the room were totally covered
    with leaves. This is weird stuff. She also was connected into a bunch
    of other stuff. I am not going to go into all of it, because it is a
    little weird, but it is two hops from Mary Ray to Iran Contra. So she is
    a real person who exists. I know her lawyer. I talked to her lawyer on
    the phone. I am going to fly up there. I am going to interview her. I
    have her medical records. And the way this works is the stuff that is
    happening now is not going to be declassified for 20 or 30 years.
    Eventually we will have the names of people who were victims of
    experiments in the 70's and 80's and 90's. We already have the names for
    the 50's and 60's, not really into the 70's. We have the names of
    specific people who were victims of the Tuscagee Syphilis Study and the
    radiation experiments into the 70's. That's the way it goes. You are
    just pushing back that curtain and there's always this lag time because
    you are relying on the views of the Intelligence Community or public
    apathy ... "it was back in the Cold War" "it's different now" "we joined
    the boy scouts and we don't do that anymore". So there is always a
    disinformation strategy for wh y it happened a long time ago and we
    don't do it now and we are very regretful and we are so regretful that
    we in fact agree to compensate these victims. In Oregon there was a
    prison where men were paid to be subjects to participate in radiation
    experiments. Their testicles had been irradiated so they would get paid
    a certain fee to participate in the radiation of their testicles.
    Special arrangements were made so Catholics couldn't participate in the
    study because they couldn't use birth control so they might give birth
    to genetically mutated children ... so it had to be only non-Catholic
    participants. There was an extra fee, it was a little bit fatter, if you
    would agree to testicle biopsy to see if the radiation was dropping the
    sperm count. When 9 of these people pressed their case to the State
    Legislature in Oregon in either the late 70's or early 80's, in its
    magnanimity, the Legislature agreed to compensate them for a total of
    $3000 for all nine subjects. So this is the way it goes in trying to
    document this stuff and trying to make it public and identify the
    specific individuals. IT'S A BIG SLOW JOB. And when you make Freedom of
    Information requests it's like interacting with any Federal Bureaucracy.

    <... cont'd>
  • Yes! The antiChrist will see to it shortly! No more paper coming soon...
  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.




    DEBRA ANN DIRKS, DENISE LEE DIRKS, VONNIE LYNN DIRKS, and
    GERALD EDWARD DIRKS, Plaintiffs-Appellees, v. NORMAN T.
    BROOKS, Defendant, and BEVERLY H. BROOKS,
    Intervenor-Appellant




    (By: Burns, C.J., Watanabe, and Lim, JJ.)

    In this appeal, Intervenor-Appellant Beverly H. Brooks (Beverly or
    Intervenor) challenges the October 7, 1993 Findings of Fact and Conclusions
    of Law; Order (the 1993 Order), issued by the Circuit Court of the Second
    Circuit (the circuit court), Judge E. John McConnell presiding, denying
    Beverly's December 17, 1991 Complaint for Declaratory and Injunctive Relief.
    We affirm.
    On September 6, 1979, John L. Franklin, Personal Representative of the
    Estate of Roy L. Dirks, Deceased (Dirks) (1)
    filed a Complaint in the circuit court to domesticate an Oregon wrongful
    death judgment against Defendant-Appellant Norman T. Brooks (Norman or
    Defendant). On September 7, 1979, Dirks filed a Motion for Preliminary
    Injunction to enjoin Norman, during the pendency of the lawsuit, "from
    selling, leasing, assigning or in anyway [sic] alienating his interest in
    the real property located at tax map key number 2-8-005-102" (the Maui
    property). The recorded deed for the Maui property reflected that Norman
    owned the Maui property with Beverly as joint tenants with the right of
    survivorship.

    The circuit court granted Dirks' Motion for Preliminary Injunction by an
    Order filed on October 9, 1979.

    On August 7, 1981, Dirks moved for judgment on the pleadings. On October 21,
    1981, the circuit court, Judge Kase Higa presiding, entered: (1) an Order
    Granting [Dirks'] Motion for Judgment on the Pleadings, which noted that
    Norman did not appear at the hearing on the motion; (2) a Judgment for Dirks
    and against Norman for $1,200,000.00, the amount claimed by Dirks, as well
    as interest, costs, and attorney fees totaling $227,209.20; and (3) a Notice
    of Entry of Order or Judgment. (2)

    On July 12, 1991, new counsel entered an appearance for Dirks, whose prior
    counsel had died. The same day, an Execution of the October 21, 1981
    Judgment was filed in the circuit court, commanding the sheriff or deputy
    sheriff of the State of Hawai`i to levy upon Norman's Maui property. On
    August 26, 1991, a deputy sheriff filed a Notice of Execution, certifying
    that he had levied upon all of the right, title and interest of Norman in
    the Maui property.

    On August 30, 1991, Dirks filed an ex parte motion to revive the October 21,
    1981 Judgment against Norman, on grounds that no part of the judgment had
    yet been paid or satisfied. An order granting the motion was entered on
    August 30, 1991.

    On November 29, 1991, Beverly filed a Motion for Leave to Intervene as a
    party to the action against Norman and be allowed to file a complaint
    seeking declaratory judgment "that [Beverly] is the equitable and sole owner
    of [the Maui property] and directing reformation of the deed to reflect sole
    ownership by [Beverly.]"

    Beverly's Motion for Leave to Intervene was granted on January 2, 1992.

    Following a July 12, 1993 bench trial, the circuit court, on October 7,
    1993, issued the 1993 Order, denying Beverly's proposed declaratory judgment
    and reformation of deed.

    The 1993 Order explained in detail the background of the case and the
    circuit court's reasoning for denying Beverly's order:
    This matter came on for non-jury trial on July 12, 1993, before the
    HONORABLE E. JOHN McCONNELL, presiding, upon the action of the Intervenor,
    BEVERLY BROOKS, for a declaratory judgment that she is the sole legal and
    equitable owner of certain improved real property and for reformation of a
    recorded deed concerning that property. Attorney Carolyn Burton appeared on
    behalf of the Intervenor, BEVERLY BROOKS ("Intervenor"), and the Defendant,
    NORMAN T. BROOKS ("Defendant"), both of whom were present in court
    throughout the trial. Attorneys Steven Guttman and Ronald S. Adelman
    appeared on behalf of the Plaintiff, JOHN L. FRANKLIN ("Plaintiff"). The
    [c]ourt having heard and considered the oral and documentary evidence
    received at trial, the stipulations of the parties, the issues raised by the
    pleadings, and the arguments of counsel; and the [c]ourt being fully advised
    in the premises, and good cause appearing therefor, the [c]ourt hereby makes
    the following findings of fact and conclusions of law:
    FINDINGS OF FACT
    1. The Intervenor, an educated woman now aged 64, has continuously since
    August of 1978 cohabitated with the Defendant, now aged 50, at improved real
    property located at 120 Waonehele Place, Haiku, Maui, Hawaii 96708, bearing
    TMK 12-2-8-005-102 ("the subject property").
    2. The Intervenor first met the Defendant in Oregon in 1973 through the
    Intervenor's daughter, Maureen, who was then living with the Defendant. At
    that time, the Intervenor was married to Dr. Robert Daugherty, and her legal
    name was Beverly Felice Benton Daugherty. The Intervenor had been married to
    Dr. Daugherty since 1946, and they had four children, all daughters.

    3. From 1973 to 1975, the Intervenor visited with the Defendant and her
    daughter Maureen at least once per month. On July 1, 1975, the Intervenor
    separated from her husband and moved in with the Defendant's family. At that
    time, the Defendant was the father of three natural children and three
    adopted children ("the Defendant's children"). The Intervenor filed a
    divorce action against her husband. She engaged the services of an attorney
    to handle the divorce. She was granted a final decree of divorce in January
    of 1976, and received a property settlement which included the payment to
    her of $300,000.00 cash by her ex-husband in December of 1975.

    4. In 1975, the Plaintiff filed a wrongful death action in Oregon against
    the Defendant and others concerning the shooting death of deputy sheriff Roy
    L. Dirks.

    5. In 1975, in a separate criminal proceeding, the Defendant was convicted
    and incarcerated in the Oregon State Penitentiary, and served three years,
    from August, 1975, until he was released in August, 1978.

    6. On August 13, 1975, the Intervenor had her name legally changed in
    Oregon to Beverly Happy Brooks. She engaged the services of an attorney to
    handle the change of name. The Intervenor testified that the name change
    signified her commitment to the Defendant as a life partner, made her a
    member of the Norman T. Brooks family, and meant that she had become the
    godmother to the Defendant's children. The Intervenor's daughter, Maureen,
    had her name legally changed to Marry Brooks.
    7. In January or early February of 1976, the Intervenor and the Defendant
    agreed that the entire Brooks family should be moved out of Oregon, the
    Defendant to join them upon his release from prison. They further agreed
    that the Intervenor would provide the funds to purchase property for the
    family home. The Defendant, as head of the family, preferred moving the
    family to Texas. The Intervenor, who had visited Maui several times since
    1973, preferred moving the family to Maui. The Intervenor prevailed.

    8. In February of 1976, the Intervenor went to Maui to look for property
    to purchase. She carried with her $150,000 in cash in a briefcase for the
    purpose of using it to purchase land on Maui. She contacted a local realtor,
    Harry Holt, who showed her several properties, none of which she found
    acceptable. On her own, without a realtor, she found the subject property,
    called the telephone number on a posted for sale sign, and, on or about
    February 26, 1976, contracted to purchase the unimproved property from the
    owners, Dr. and Mrs. Pfaeltzer, for $100,000.
    9. It was the Intervenor's intention to purchase the land jointly with
    Defendant with rights of survivorship, thereby potentially benefitting her
    godchildren upon the death of Intervenor and Defendant. The Intervenor did
    not have a legal will. She testified that the realtor, Harry Holt, had told
    her that the easiest way to accomplish her intention was to have the
    Defendant's name on the deed. However, the Intervenor chose not to have any
    realtor or attorney advise or assist her in closing the transaction.
    10. The Intervenor went to Security Title Corporation in Wailuku and
    opened an escrow. She then met with escrow officer Riki Inciong to work out
    the particulars of the transaction. The Intervenor never said anything to
    the escrow officer about buying the property to provide for any children, or
    about setting up a trust, or about holding the property in trust for any
    children.
    11. The Intervenor told the escrow officer that she and the Defendant, who
    was in Oregon, were husband and wife. As a result, all of the closing
    documents, including the Deed, listed them as husband and wife. Although the
    Intervenor and Defendant were not then, and never have been, legally
    married, the Intervenor believed that the Defendant was her "life partner"
    and felt that their relationship qualified as a marriage under a dictionary
    definition. The Intervenor signed the Defendant's name on the closing
    documents, including the escrow instructions.
    12. The escrow officer explained to the Intervenor the four basic ways in
    which title to real property could be held in Hawaii: tenants by the
    entireties, joint tenants, tenants in common, and tenant in severalty. The
    Intervenor expressly directed the escrow officer that, in addition to her
    name, she wanted the Defendant's name on the deed. The Intervenor decided to
    hold title and co-own the property with the Defendant as joint tenants, with
    right of survivorship. As a result, all of the closing documents, including
    the Deed, listed the Intervenor and the Defendant as joint tenants.
    13. On March 1, 1976, the transaction was closed through escrow, and a
    Deed dated March 1, 1976, was recorded with the Bureau of Conveyances, State
    of Hawaii, in Liber 11272, Page 321, by which Dr. and Mrs. Pfaeltzer sold to
    the Defendant and the Intervenor, as joint tenants, the subject property,
    which was fully and legally described in the Deed.
    14. Upon returning to Oregon on March 15, 1976, the Intervenor visited the
    Defendant in prison and told him about the subject property, including the
    fact that his name was on the title as co-owner. The Intervenor testified
    that she spoke with an Oregon attorney named Price about removing the
    Defendant's name from the Deed and was told that it could be done. However,
    she admitted that she did not do anything about it, as she did not think it
    was important, and that thereafter she procrastinated and never got around
    to pursuing the name removal.
    15. In April of 1976, while in Oregon, the Intervenor received a copy of
    the recorded Deed from the escrow officer. When the Intervenor received the
    Deed, she noted that both her name and the Defendant's were on the Deed,
    that they were listed as joint tenants, and that they were listed as being
    husband and wife. Thereafter, the Intervenor sent correspondence to the
    escrow officer, but none of her correspondence mentioned changing the title
    or having the Defendant's name removed from the Deed.
    16. On May 13, 1976, the Defendant signed and sent a letter to the escrow
    officer concerning the subject property. Defendant's letter made no mention
    of changing the title or having his name removed from the Deed.

    17. On July 30, 1976, at the Oregon State Penitentiary, the Intervenor and
    the Defendant both signed, in the presence of a notary public, a document
    which granted a utilities easement over the subject property to Maui
    Electric Company, Ltd. The easement document listed them as husband and
    wife. The easement document was recorded in the Bureau of Conveyances on
    September 10, 1976.
    18. During 1976, certain improvements were made to the subject property,
    including the construction of a dwelling. The Intervenor paid for these
    improvements. The Intervenor testified that the Defendant was the designer
    of the property.
    19. On or about August 10, 1978, the Defendant was released from prison
    and moved to the subject property on Maui with the Intervenor and joined the
    rest of his family.
    20. On August 29, 1979, in the Oregon wrongful death case, judgment was
    entered in favor of the Plaintiff and against the Defendant ("the Oregon
    Judgment"). The Plaintiff was awarded damages totalling $1,200,000 against
    the Defendant.
    21. On September 6, 1979, the complaint in this case was filed which
    sought to domesticate the Oregon Judgment. Following a hearing held on
    September 27, 1979, a preliminary injunction was entered in this case on
    November 20, 1979, which enjoined the Defendant "during the pendency of this
    action from selling, leasing, assigning or in any way alienating his
    interest in the real property located at TMK 2-8-005-102." The preliminary
    injunction order was recorded with the Bureau of Conveyances on November 20,
    1979.

    22. On October 21, 1981, a judgment was entered in this case in favor of
    Plaintiff and against Defendant domesticating the Oregon Judgment and
    awarding to the Plaintiff damages totalling $1,427,209.20. On August 30,
    1991, this judgment was renewed, and the total damages awarded to the
    Plaintiff against the Defendant, with accrued interest, increased to
    $2,810,624.40.
    23. On November 8, 1991, the Intervenor filed her Motion for Intervention
    in this case. On December 17, 1991, she filed her complaint for declaratory
    judgment and injunctive relief.

    24. At all times since the Intervenor had the Defendant's name placed on
    the Deed to the subject property on March 1, 1976, up to the date of trial,
    she knew that his name remained on the title.
    25. During the period August 1978 to September 1979, when the Intervenor
    and the Defendant first cohabited together at the subject property, neither
    of them took any action to have the Defendant's name removed from the title
    to the subject property.
    26. At the time that the Plaintiff sought the preliminary injunction
    against the Defendant in this case in September of 1976, the Intervenor knew
    of the Oregon Judgment, knew of the filing of this action, and knew of the
    injunctive relief sought by Plaintiff.
  • Everything that is happening now was written a very long time ago.
  • ccRyderzzccRyderzz Posts: 163
    I caught this clip of Glen Beck, I'd like to see the rest of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsiZdOD5u4

    This sounds pretty outrageous, and frightening at the same time.

    I thought it would only be North America to form a unified currency, it seems perhaps the sights have been set a little higher...

    What do you imagine the repercussions would be to having one global currency?

    Is this new world order by default? i.e. "give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws"?!?
    The front page of the July 10 edition of the "Talkeetna Times" reflected
    the town's busy summertime flavor.
    A sizeable crowd was expected at the Moose Dropping Festival, where
    thousands watch preserved poop dropped on a bull's-eye. Two climbers died on
    Mount McKinley, sad news for this, the last civilized stopover before base
    camp.

    But it was a two-page advertisement from an out-of-state religious group
    at the newspaper's center that's still got the town talking.
    "LIBERTY OF CONSCIENCE THREATENED," blares a headline above a photograph
    of President Bush bowing as he clasps the hand of Pope Benedict XVI. "SUNDAY
    WILL BE ENFORCED AS THE MARK OF THE BEAST."

    Another photo shows a billboard bearing the words, "Saturday the TRUE
    Lord's Day. Changed by Antichrist."

    The Florida-based Eternal Gospel Church, a splinter group of the Seventh
    Day Adventist Church with a reputation for controversy, bought the ad. It
    accuses the Catholic Church of pressing for enforcement of Sunday "blue"
    laws regulating moral activities. Seventh Day Adventists believe Saturday is
    the Sabbath.

    Huh?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Everything that is happening now was written a very long time ago.
    By the people who are doing this. It will all be over soon. The real year 2000 is coming.
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