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The real deal on Kuwait...

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
Sounds a little different than what was painted on the wall by the media doesn't it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQNEfI4lDUE
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    that was a nice histroy lesson. I dont see the point. borders have been changing since the beginning of time. galloway is going to soon convince you to become a suicide bomber.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    that was a nice histroy lesson. I dont see the point. borders have been changing since the beginning of time. galloway is going to soon convince you to become a suicide bomber.

    Suicide? Bombs? I'm against violence and war. However I'm not against crusading for the truth of the matter.

    The media lies, and continues to lie...more so every day.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Suicide? Bombs? I'm against violence and war. However I'm not against crusading for the truth of the matter.

    The media lies, and continues to lie...more so every day.


    what did the media leave out? that kuwait used to be part of Iraq long before saddam was in power. so that somehow makes it ok that he invaded?
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    I think that the real "point" to be made about the first Gulf War is that our involvement was motivated not by compassion in defense of human rights, but only by self-serving oil-based concern.

    The human rights atrocities that Saddam had been commiting for years -- the gasings, the shellings, the mass graves, the prisons -- went "unnoticed" by the United States. In fact, during that time we were sucking up to Saddam to unprecedented heights. We were pushing him to allow Bechtel to build a pipeline, to manage their oilfields, Halliburton was servicing their ports, Chevron was courting them for contracts ... we could have cared less who he murdered within his own country.

    No. We got involved in "the gulf" because:

    1. We could not afford, through inaction, to jeopordize our own relationship with the Saudis, who were and remain important allies in providing us with "energy security".

    2. We decided to seize upon the moment in opportunistic fashion in hopes of motivating the people of Iraq to overthrow Saddam. The hope being that, although relations with him were "acceptable", he was becoming a bit standoffish, his agression showed he was unreliable, and we would further benefit from a "puppet government" that, once the people had overthrown him and the political vacuum had opened, we could move in with CIA talent and political shrewdness to install.

    Makes more sense than "oh we really cared about them incubator babies that never even existed", huh?
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    what did the media leave out? that kuwait used to be part of Iraq long before saddam was in power. so that somehow makes it ok that he invaded?

    Did you listen to the same audio clip I did?

    It goes to show what goes where and why, and all the real reasons left out by the media therein.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    who ever went to war out of a sense of altruism? but it was mostly a win/win for most of the nations in the area, except iraq of course. U.S. interests saved, Kuwait freed, further war between iraq and Saudi Arabia prevented. good job.

    until Bush had to fuck it all up with an unprovoked, U.s interest weakening, Middle east destabalizing shitstorm of stupidity.


    yeah i know the media makes it out to be that we were just going to free the oppressed, but people are stupid, what can i say.
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