RFID implants cause fast-growing, malignant tumors in lab animals

RolandTD20Kdrummer

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=120&a=3470

"The Associated Press will issue a breaking story this weekend revealing that microchip implants have induced cancer in laboratory animals and dogs, says privacy expert and long-time VeriChip opponent Dr. Katherine Albrecht.

As the AP will report, a series of research articles spanning more than a decade found that mice and rats injected with glass-encapsulated RFID transponders developed malignant, fast-growing, lethal cancers in up to 1% to 10% of cases. The tumors originated in the tissue surrounding the microchips and often grew to completely surround the devices, the researchers said. "

Jeanie

Roland! I was going to ask if this is referring to microchipping that you have to have done on your pet when you buy it, so you can identify it BUT then I read futher and discover that whatever the fuck these things are they are actually microchipping PEOPLE as well?????????????????

Never mind the cancer, wtf???? Who decided that microchipping people was the way to go? :eek:

jeffbr

Jeanie wrote:

Never mind the cancer, wtf???? Who decided that microchipping people was the way to go? :eek:

Dementia patients I can kind of understand (although it makes me quite uncomfortable), but "club-goers in Europe"? What's that about?

Jeanie

jeffbr wrote:

Dementia patients I can kind of understand (although it makes me quite uncomfortable), but "club-goers in Europe"? What's that about?

I can see that there are issues with people who are unable to care for themselves and do not function well mentally but those medi alert bracelets and pendants would be much less invasive. So yeah, I agree jeff, I see the problem with dementia patients but it's freaky that it's already happening, I mean how was it even allowed to start? And what possible benefit to club goers themselves? JUST WEIRD! And potentially a health risk to boot!

Makes me think of all those barcoded babies in the Evolution film clip.

catefrances

jeffbr wrote:

Dementia patients I can kind of understand (although it makes me quite uncomfortable), but "club-goers in Europe"? What's that about?

my daughter is planning a trip(probably in every sense of the word) to the netherlands next year to do some raving. i'm thinking i might get her chipped. you know just so she don't get lost or something. i would hate to lose her.

bootlegger10

catefrances wrote:

my daughter is planning a trip(probably in every sense of the word) to the netherlands next year to do some raving. i'm thinking i might get her chipped. you know just so she don't get lost or something. i would hate to lose her.

Instead of the chip, she could not go raving in the Netherlands in the first place. Just a thought. Hey, but do what you want and then complain about the consequences later.

flywallyfly

Did the agency know of the tumor findings before approving the chip implants? The FDA declined repeated AP requests to specify what studies it reviewed.

The FDA is overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services, which, at the time of VeriChip's approval, was headed by Tommy Thompson. Two weeks after the device's approval took effect on Jan. 10, 2005, Thompson left his Cabinet post, and within five months was a board member of VeriChip Corp. and Applied Digital Solutions. He was compensated in cash and stock options.

Thompson, until recently a candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, says he had no personal relationship with the company as the VeriChip was being evaluated, nor did he play any role in FDA's approval process of the RFID tag.

"I didn't even know VeriChip before I stepped down from the Department of Health and Human Services," he said in a telephone interview.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070908/ap_on_re_us/chipping_america_ii;_ylt=AoCef7r7z5dhfzrMJEockUsDW7oF

catefrances

bootlegger10 wrote:

Instead of the chip, she could not go raving in the Netherlands in the first place. Just a thought. Hey, but do what you want and then complain about the consequences later.

jeez lighten up man. as if i was serious. :rolleyes: she gets lost, tis her own silly fault.

know1

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=120&a=3470

"The Associated Press will issue a breaking story this weekend revealing that microchip implants have induced cancer in laboratory animals and dogs, says privacy expert and long-time VeriChip opponent Dr. Katherine Albrecht.

As the AP will report, a series of research articles spanning more than a decade found that mice and rats injected with glass-encapsulated RFID transponders developed malignant, fast-growing, lethal cancers in up to 1% to 10% of cases. The tumors originated in the tissue surrounding the microchips and often grew to completely surround the devices, the researchers said. "

Hmm... people have been doing this to livestock, etc. for quite awhile now and they seem to be fine.

Surely, you have more intelligence than this.

godpt3

this is why cattle get tagged on the ear instead of subcutaneously

godpt3

know1 wrote:

Hmm... people have been doing this to livestock, etc. for quite awhile now and they seem to be fine.

they don't actually IMPLANT the tags in livestock... besides, you wouldn't want to bite down on a burger and end up with a mouthful of RFID

RolandTD20Kdrummer

know1 wrote:

Hmm... people have been doing this to livestock, etc. for quite awhile now and they seem to be fine.

Surely, you have more intelligence than this.

No offense, but I think you need to know more about it that what you already do...

know1

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

No offense, but I think you need to know more about it that what you already do...

Likewise, I'm sure.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

know1 wrote:

Likewise, I'm sure.

Maybe you should write a few articles yourself instead of stroking your ego...

Jeanie

flywallyfly wrote:

Did the agency know of the tumor findings before approving the chip implants? The FDA declined repeated AP requests to specify what studies it reviewed.

The FDA is overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services, which, at the time of VeriChip's approval, was headed by Tommy Thompson. Two weeks after the device's approval took effect on Jan. 10, 2005, Thompson left his Cabinet post, and within five months was a board member of VeriChip Corp. and Applied Digital Solutions. He was compensated in cash and stock options.

Thompson, until recently a candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, says he had no personal relationship with the company as the VeriChip was being evaluated, nor did he play any role in FDA's approval process of the RFID tag.

"I didn't even know VeriChip before I stepped down from the Department of Health and Human Services," he said in a telephone interview.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070908/ap_on_re_us/chipping_america_ii;_ylt=AoCef7r7z5dhfzrMJEockUsDW7oF

I say hold Thompson down and chip him. He can be the first research candidate! :rolleyes: Hope the money's worth it for him!

I can't believe that patients private medical files are being stored in a data base by a private company!

There's no way I'd be microchipped, or allow any of my loved ones to be microchipped and I must confess that now I'm looking at the dog and wondering if I can have the damn thing removed until there's been some proper research done.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

flywallyfly wrote:

Did the agency know of the tumor findings before approving the chip implants? The FDA declined repeated AP requests to specify what studies it reviewed.

The FDA is overseen by the Department of Health and Human Services, which, at the time of VeriChip's approval, was headed by Tommy Thompson. Two weeks after the device's approval took effect on Jan. 10, 2005, Thompson left his Cabinet post, and within five months was a board member of VeriChip Corp. and Applied Digital Solutions. He was compensated in cash and stock options.

Thompson, until recently a candidate for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination, says he had no personal relationship with the company as the VeriChip was being evaluated, nor did he play any role in FDA's approval process of the RFID tag.

"I didn't even know VeriChip before I stepped down from the Department of Health and Human Services," he said in a telephone interview.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070908/ap_on_re_us/chipping_america_ii;_ylt=AoCef7r7z5dhfzrMJEockUsDW7oF

Thanks for adding. You would think they would do all the ground work to prove the technology beforehand.

At the very least.

I believe there is a highly standardized framework in place for admitting a product into society of this magnitude.

At least I hope so!

Jeanie

Roland I did ask the Vet about this last night while I was there with the dog and he did raise an interesting point.
When I asked about whether there were any instances of microchipped pets developing tumors around the RFID impants here he said not to his knowledge and that he'd never seen a study on it, BUT he did say that it was possible that the problem wasn't necessarily the microchip itself but the constant scanning. He said that your average domestic pet might get scanned 12 times in its life but for a study the test animals would be scanned more frequently than that. He also pointed out that most cattle is microchipped these days and that there hasn't been a reported increase in incidence of tumorous cancers in those animals around the chip sites.

Anyway, not gospel I realize but more food for thought. I certainly don't think VeriChip has behaved above board and I do believe that more research should be conducted in this area.