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Vote recount in New Hampshire.

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
It's on....

Should hit the media pretty soon.

Break out your calculators and pencils folks...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
    I bet you Saddamm will come back to life to help with the recount. Soon after, Bush is going to admit to 9/11 and Bernanke is going to reveal his communist past.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    Jammin909 wrote:
    I bet you Saddamm will come back to life to help with the recount. Soon after, Bush is going to admit to 9/11 and Bernanke is going to reveal his communist past.


    if you spent more time educating yourself and less time ridiculing people who obviously know more about reality than you do,maybe you could help bring some fucking respect back to our nation.


    http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Wake up, Wake UUUUUP!

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • JamMastaEJamMastaE Posts: 444
    g under p wrote:
    Wake up, Wake UUUUUP!

    Peace


    Zach De La Rocha?
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Jammin909 wrote:
    I bet you Saddamm will come back to life to help with the recount. Soon after, Bush is going to admit to 9/11 and Bernanke is going to reveal his communist past.

    Very unlikely on the first two...you just never know about the third ;)

    Rumor has it there are people on airplanes right now flying into NH to get the recount officially underway.

    It's not Just Ron Paul. This also benefits Obama as there was a 7% swing vote in favor of Hillary that has lot of people wondering exactly what's up. A few of the zero vote towns now have had enough people come forward to merit this.

    In any event. Regardless of which candidate you choose , everyone should be supporting this.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    JamMastaE wrote:
    Zach De La Rocha?

    You got that right....RATM..."Wake Up" :)

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Albert Howard is the man heading up the recount. It is rumored that $11,000 of the $12,000 needed has already been raised by a third party group.

    Albert Howard knows RP's mentors are great people like MLK and Ghandi and he supports him 100%.

    Let's hope no one is swapping in fraudulent voting cards in the meantime.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    RP's mentors are great people like MLK and Ghandi and he supports him 100%.


    are you sure about that?
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    are you sure about that?


    Yeah dude, he's not a racist.

    It's a ridiculous notion.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Yeah dude, he's not a racist.

    It's a ridiculous notion.

    how is it ridiculous?


    that periodical had some pretty interesting stuff... just saying? seems pretty legit to me... i think he may be nailed?

    i could be wrong though? how do you see it?
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    how is it ridiculous?


    that periodical had some pretty interesting stuff... just saying? seems pretty legit to me... i think he may be nailed?

    i could be wrong though? how do you see it?

    You don't know the details of the situation. If you did, you would realize.

    You bought up some tired old propaganda, that has already been explained over and over again for the past decade.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's on....

    Should hit the media pretty soon.

    Break out your calculators and pencils folks...

    How deep in your rectum did you have to dig to pull out this information?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Jammin909 wrote:
    I bet you Saddamm will come back to life to help with the recount. Soon after, Bush is going to admit to 9/11 and Bernanke is going to reveal his communist past.


    what makes you think he's dead...a cell phone video??


    :)
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    cornnifer wrote:
    How deep in your rectum did you have to dig to pull out this information?

    it looks to be true.
    the ronpaul forums have it as fact that a candidate flew up last night to sign off on the recount.

    Grannywarriors has already raised 11k.

    That is verifiable.
    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    it looks to be true.
    the ronpaul forums have it as fact that a candidate flew up last night to sign off on the recount.

    Grannywarriors has already raised 11k.

    That is verifiable.
    :D


    Oh. In other words, pretty far. The Ron Paul forums. Must be true then. :rolleyes:
    What are they hoping to accomplish? Raise his 7% to 7.001%?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Apparently, it is Kucinich calling for the recount.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/11/kucinich-calls-for-new-hampshire-recount/

    if anybody has anything to lose in this scenario, its Clinton. someone mentioned it earlier in another thread, and i do worry about the potential of shadiness with these voting machines. i'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but i must admit it seems fishy to me that the republican polls were spot on (it was nearly exactly as the polls predicted), and the democratic polls were off so terribly. Seems weird. i say let 'em recount. Doesn't hurt. Probably wouldn't change anything if they votes WERE tampered with, but, it may just send a message to anyone *cough* Hillary Clinton *cough* about considering shady tactics in the future.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    cornnifer wrote:
    Apparently, it is Kucinich calling for the recount.

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/11/kucinich-calls-for-new-hampshire-recount/

    if anybody has anything to lose in this scenario, its Clinton. someone mentioned it earlier in another thread, and i do worry about the potential of shadiness with these voting machines. i'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but i must admit it seems fishy to me that the republican polls were spot on (it was nearly exactly as the polls predicted), and the democratic polls were off so terribly. Seems weird. i say let 'em recount. Doesn't hurt. Probably wouldn't change anything if they votes WERE tampered with, but, it may just send a message to anyone *cough* Hillary Clinton *cough* about considering shady tactics in the future.

    Recounts are by party.
    I believe Kucinich is calling for one on the democratic side.

    The republican recount is being intiated by someone named Albert Howard, whom i know nothing about. here is the Ronpaulforums article as well

    I am also reading that this is all probably moot, because there are serious problems with chain of evidence. Namely there is a big problem with how the actual ballots are handled after election day, an by whom they are handled.

    Anyhow,
    so are you done making fun of me over this?
    Or you still think its a bunch of bullshit that some kooks made up?
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    cornnifer wrote:
    Oh. In other words, pretty far. The Ron Paul forums. Must be true then. :rolleyes:
    What are they hoping to accomplish? Raise his 7% to 7.001%?

    It's great when losers aren't able to graciously accept defeat. I guess crazy people don't like to be told that they're crazy :D
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    cornnifer wrote:
    Apparently, it is Kucinich calling for the recount.

    Kucinich is looking to get on Obama's good side, so he's taking one for the team.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Recounts are by party.
    I believe Kucinich is calling for one on the democratic side.

    The republican recount is being intiated by someone named Albert Howard, whom i know nothing about. here is the Ronpaulforums article as well

    I am also reading that this is all probably moot, because there are serious problems with chain of evidence. Namely there is a big problem with how the actual ballots are handled after election day, an by whom they are handled.

    Anyhow,
    so are you done making fun of me over this?
    Or you still think its a bunch of bullshit that some kooks made up?
    i wasn't making fun of you on this issue, per se. Just having a go, really. Honestly, i can see where it would be prudent in the case of the democrats. Running out of ballots in some places, the polls being so far off, a VERY narrow 2% point differential, etc. all makes for a somewhat fishy scenario. On the republican side, however, the polls were spot on. Almost precisely accurate (which also contributes to the fishy smell on the other side), and Paul lost with only 7% of the vote. Lets be honest, just what are the Ron Paul folks hoping to accomplish except maybe to stress integrity? That i can get behind. Other than that, i just don't get it.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    godpt3 wrote:
    It's great when losers aren't able to graciously accept defeat. I guess crazy people don't like to be told that they're crazy :D

    If its all about integrity, i'm all for it. i don't think RP folks are crazy (except for thinking he can actually win or would be able to deliver a damn thing). To a certain degree i can appreciate their tenacity. Its a shame to me however that they waste all that fervor.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    cornnifer wrote:
    Lets be honest, just what are the Ron Paul folks hoping to accomplish except maybe to stress integrity? That i can get behind. Other than that, i just don't get it.

    Ron Paul supporters need to be taken down to the river... a river called "Denial" :D
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cornnifer wrote:
    If its all about integrity, i'm all for it. i don't think RP folks are crazy (except for thinking he can actually win or would be able to deliver a damn thing). To a certain degree i can appreciate their tenacity. Its a shame to me however that they waste all that fervor.


    How is it a waste?

    Who should they vote for instead... Obama?

    Have you taken the time to look into who his advisor's are?

    It's like shopping for a car. You don't just believe everything the salesman says at face value. You have to look under the hood a little before hopping aboard and driving away.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cornnifer wrote:
    How deep in your rectum did you have to dig to pull out this information?

    Not very. Is IQ and thinking one of your stronger points?

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080110/NEWS06/80110061
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    godpt3 wrote:
    It's great when losers aren't able to graciously accept defeat. I guess crazy people don't like to be told that they're crazy :D


    Just like stupid ignorant people...hehe

    Whoever they are...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    How is it a waste?

    Who should they vote for instead... Obama?

    Have you taken the time to look into who his advisor's are?

    It's like shopping for a car. You don't just believe everything the salesman says at face value. You have to look under the hood a little before hopping aboard and driving away.

    Its a waste because he has no chance of winning. i don't care who you or anyone else votes for, thats your perogative as a voter.

    Personally, yes, i think its well documented around here that i think Barack Obama is America's best choice fir leadership. Contrary to what others have said about him, he has refused lobbyist and special interest money, is dead set against the war in Iraq advocating phased removal of troops (the only way it will work), and restoration of our civil liberties. His ideas for improving healthcare and asuring it for all Americans will actually work. He has spent time in the trenches as a civil rights lawyer as well as in other ways (check his bio yourself). Contrary to all Clinton's talk of experience, remember, he has more time (11yrs) of elective service than she does (8yrs). This man is a sincere and true LEADER. Most importantly, he has a legitimate shot at not just winning a nomination, but the general election as well. Its fairly safe to say, not just according to my belief, but polls as well, that he beats EVERY republicam in the running. He is a uniter. He is not polarizing or divisive which is EXACTLY what it will take to actually get shit done and end the political gidlock that has existed for so long. In addition he is the type of charismatic diplomat that will restore our rapport with the rest of the world.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    cornnifer wrote:
    Its a waste because he has no chance of winning. i don't care who you or anyone else votes for, thats your perogative as a voter.

    Personally, yes, i think its well documented around here that i think Barack Obama is America's best choice fir leadership. Contrary to what others have said about him, he has refused lobbyist and special interest money, is dead set against the war in Iraq advocating phased removal of troops (the only way it will work), and restoration of our civil liberties. His ideas for improving healthcare and asuring it for all Americans will actually work. He has spent time in the trenches as a civil rights lawyer as well as in other ways (check his bio yourself). Contrary to all Clinton's talk of experience, remember, he has more time (11yrs) of elective service than she does (8yrs). This man is a sincere and true LEADER. Most importantly, he has a legitimate shot at not just winning a nomination, but the general election as well. Its fairly safe to say, not just according to my belief, but polls as well, that he beats EVERY republicam in the running. He is a uniter. He is not polarizing or divisive which is EXACTLY what it will take to actually get shit done and end the political gidlock that has existed for so long. In addition he is the type of charismatic diplomat that will restore our rapport with the rest of the world.
    Diplomacy from Washington...its been so long I doubt they know how anymore. Negotiation is for the weak unfortunatley, and the US rarely indulges nations when there is conflicting interests involved. Maybe Obama will, who knows.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cornnifer wrote:
    Its a waste because he has no chance of winning. i don't care who you or anyone else votes for, thats your perogative as a voter.

    Personally, yes, i think its well documented around here that i think Barack Obama is America's best choice fir leadership. Contrary to what others have said about him, he has refused lobbyist and special interest money, is dead set against the war in Iraq advocating phased removal of troops (the only way it will work), and restoration of our civil liberties. His ideas for improving healthcare and asuring it for all Americans will actually work. He has spent time in the trenches as a civil rights lawyer as well as in other ways (check his bio yourself). Contrary to all Clinton's talk of experience, remember, he has more time (11yrs) of elective service than she does (8yrs). This man is a sincere and true LEADER. Most importantly, he has a legitimate shot at not just winning a nomination, but the general election as well. Its fairly safe to say, not just according to my belief, but polls as well, that he beats EVERY republicam in the running. He is a uniter. He is not polarizing or divisive which is EXACTLY what it will take to actually get shit done and end the political gidlock that has existed for so long. In addition he is the type of charismatic diplomat that will restore our rapport with the rest of the world.

    I think he's going to let a lot of people down. He's offering a band aid an pretending it's stitches.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I think he's going to let a lot of people down. He's offering a band aid an pretending it's stitches.

    What he's offering is the best chance we have to transform Washington from the inside out for the benefit of Americans and restore our esteem both domestcaly and internationally.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cornnifer wrote:
    What he's offering is the best chance we have to transform Washington from the inside out for the benefit of Americans and restore our esteem both domestcaly and internationally.

    That's subjective opinion. But let's hope so.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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