Military Officers Challenge Official Account of September 11th

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/military-officers-challenge-official-account-of-september-11th/

"Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story. The officers’ statements appear below, listed alphabetically."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    bah, wtf do they know??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • More nuts for the can.

    I wonder if they take their Officers caps and give them tinfoil hats when they retire?
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    More nuts for the can.

    I wonder if they take their Officers caps and give them tinfoil hats when they retire?
    who would you believe?

    Just for second think there is more to the story than what we've been told...who would you believe?
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    bah, wtf do they know??

    less than some people on this forum claim to know...I'm betting

    Put me down for 20...at 5:1 odds
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    less than some people on this forum claim to know...I'm betting

    Put me down for 20...at 5:1 odds

    yeah, i wonder if these 'officers' read or saw that article from that rolling stone guy lately? we can close the case on this one
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    yeah, i wonder if these 'officers' read or saw that article from that rolling stone guy lately? we can close the case on this one


    Taibbi? Yeah I read his undercover stint into Hagee's little bible camp. All I can say is stick to the fluffy shit Matt... Fluff for fluffs....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    This is interesting, there's more to 9/11 than has been given by this administration.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/military-officers-challenge-official-account-of-september-11th/

    "Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story. The officers’ statements appear below, listed alphabetically."


    Oooops.

    Looks like we'll be trading-in our tin foil hats for...............Golden Crowns:D

    But of course Popular Mechanics had it right and these guys.......these guys in the military; have it all wrong:rolleyes:
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175

    If you are too scared, too dumb or too corrupt to think for yourself, then this blog is not for you. If you are a sheep or a sheepherder, a victim or a persecutor, a prey or a predator, you will probably hate this blog because I challenge you to question your own cherished beliefs, think about what you are doing and how you are existing. I challenge you to stand up and be a real human being instead of a dumb animal, predator or prey.

    what a rude, condescending piece of shit. way to encourage people to want to read your blog.
    asshole.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    If you are too scared, too dumb or too corrupt to think for yourself, then this blog is not for you. If you are a sheep or a sheepherder, a victim or a persecutor, a prey or a predator, you will probably hate this blog because I challenge you to question your own cherished beliefs, think about what you are doing and how you are existing. I challenge you to stand up and be a real human being instead of a dumb animal, predator or prey.

    what a rude, condescending piece of shit. way to encourage people to want to read your blog.
    asshole.

    anything to not get the message ... i don't see condenscension - just truth (not in his opinions but in what should be asked of each individual in this age of PR campaigns) ...
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    polaris wrote:
    anything to not get the message ... i don't see condenscension - just truth (not in his opinions but in what should be asked of each individual in this age of PR campaigns) ...


    why couldn't you just start off your reply with ...i don't see condenscension....

    how about you fuck off with your 'anything to not get the message' comment. now that's condescending.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    If you are too scared, too dumb or too corrupt to think for yourself, then this blog is not for you. If you are a sheep or a sheepherder, a victim or a persecutor, a prey or a predator, you will probably hate this blog because I challenge you to question your own cherished beliefs, think about what you are doing and how you are existing. I challenge you to stand up and be a real human being instead of a dumb animal, predator or prey.

    what a rude, condescending piece of shit. way to encourage people to want to read your blog.
    asshole.

    I sort of agree with this. But that wasn't on the page as the article.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    why couldn't you just start off your reply with ...i don't see condenscension....

    how about you fuck off with your 'anything to not get the message' comment. now that's condescending.

    i'll give you that ... i can see how you got that but to me - it's also the truth ... your anger towards the blogger and to me is diversionary ...
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Collin wrote:
    I sort of agree with this. But that wasn't on the page as the article.
    no it wasn't, but i rarely read anything someone posts from a website until i read the 'about this site', so i can see who and what they are about. If that makes sense anyway.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    polaris wrote:
    i'll give you that ... i can see how you got that but to me - it's also the truth ... your anger towards the blogger and to me is diversionary ...
    i apologize for over reacting polaris. i'm sorry.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    i apologize for over reacting polaris. i'm sorry.

    no need to apologize - it's all good
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    no it wasn't, but i rarely read anything someone posts from a website until i read the 'about this site', so i can see who and what they are about. If that makes sense anyway.

    It does make sense. The article's from the Pakistan Daily, though.
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    less than some people on this forum claim to know...I'm betting

    yeah we know... you and a few others here have 9/11 all figured out :rolleyes:
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/military-officers-challenge-official-account-of-september-11th/

    "Twenty-five former U.S. military officers have severely criticized the official account of 9/11 and called for a new investigation. They include former commander of U.S. Army Intelligence, Major General Albert Stubblebine, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Col. Ronald D. Ray, two former staff members of the Director of the National Security Agency; Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, PhD, and Major John M. Newman, PhD, and many others. They are among the rapidly growing number of military and intelligence service veterans, scientists, engineers, and architects challenging the government’s story. The officers’ statements appear below, listed alphabetically."

    i will read it later...

    is this breaking anywhere besides the Pakistan Daily? i mean, that may not be the most credible source?
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    my2hands wrote:
    i will read it later...

    is this breaking anywhere besides the Pakistan Daily? i mean, that may not be the most credible source?

    I only did a quick search but a lot of the people mentioned can be found on this website:

    http://patriotsquestion911.com/
    THANK YOU, LOSTDAWG!


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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    my2hands wrote:
    yeah we know... you and a few others here have 9/11 all figured out :rolleyes:

    Hey am I one of them? :)

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Ive stated this here before.

    My father flew jets in Vietnam, and has since flown commercial airlines for almost 30 years. He and several of his friends maintain that what occurred on 9/11 simply could not have happened as we have been told.

    3 out of 4 "inexperienced" pilots could not have hit their targets with such accuracy.
    the Minions
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Ive stated this here before.

    My father flew jets in Vietnam, and has since flown commercial airlines for almost 30 years. He and several of his friends maintain that what occurred on 9/11 simply could not have happened as we have been told.

    3 out of 4 "inexperienced" pilots could not have hit their targets with such accuracy.

    If our government tells us one story be SURE to checkout an alternate angle cause it's very difficult to believe anything this administration has told us. This has to be one of the most most corrupt and profiteering administration EVER!

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under p wrote:
    If our government tells us one story be SURE to checkout an alternate angle cause it's very difficult to believe anything this administration has told us. This has to be one of the most most corrupt and profiteering administration EVER!

    Peace

    The Bush family has been manipulating politics for decades and decades.

    Prescott Bush tipping Nixon's hat ...

    Nixon got his start in politics by responding to a classified in a news paper, placed by Prescott, looking for a young and malleable congressional candidate to do his bidding.

    Prescott Bush with Eisenhower and again, in the White House.

    Prescott was partly responsible for encouraging Ike to run, and he was significantly responsible for putting Nixon on the ticket as VP.

    Then of course, we have George HW Bush, generally alleged to be involved at a high level with the JFK \ Bay of Pigs "thing", and a spook and behind the scenes political manipulator in general. Standing in front of the School Book Depository, just after JFK assassination.

    Bush admitted over the phone to the FBI that he had been \ or was going to be in Dallas that evening. Hmm.

    Later he tried to tell the world he was out of the country at the time, and then later still he claimed he really didn't remember where he was the day of the shooting. Barbara on the other hand maintains that he was at home the whole time. Billing records prove that he had a hotel room at the Sheraton Dallas that day (11-22-63) however.

    This is a family that has manipulated the entire political fabric of this country since at least the start of WWII and the whole Harriman\Nazi thing.

    They continued to do so, right on through murdering a man of peace, covering it up, and throwing the country in to the clutches of big oil, big banks, and the CIA.

    Boo to Bush.
    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
    The Bush family has been manipulating politics for decades and decades.

    Prescott Bush tipping Nixon's hat ...

    Nixon got his start in politics by responding to a classified in a news paper, placed by Prescott, looking for a young and malleable congressional candidate to do his bidding.

    Prescott Bush with Eisenhower and again, in the White House.

    Prescott was partly responsible for encouraging Ike to run, and he was significantly responsible for putting Nixon on the ticket as VP.

    Then of course, we have George HW Bush, generally alleged to be involved at a high level with the JFK \ Bay of Pigs "thing", and a spook and behind the scenes political manipulator in general. Standing in front of the School Book Depository, just after JFK assassination.

    Bush admitted over the phone to the FBI that he had been \ or was going to be in Dallas that evening. Hmm.

    Later he tried to tell the world he was out of the country at the time, and then later still he claimed he really didn't remember where he was the day of the shooting. Barbara on the other hand maintains that he was at home the whole time. Billing records prove that he had a hotel room at the Sheraton Dallas that day (11-22-63) however.

    This is a family that has manipulated the entire political fabric of this country since at least the start of WWII and the whole Harriman\Nazi thing.

    They continued to do so, right on through murdering a man of peace, covering it up, and throwing the country in to the clutches of big oil, big banks, and the CIA.

    Boo to Bush.
    :(

    Yeah the Bush family is pretty terrifying... I seem to remember my AP History teacher talking about how Nixon cheated at every level of politics. He was thrown out of his 6th grade presidency for ballot stuffing, and it went downhill from there. Sleeze all the way...
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

    "Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
  • my2hands wrote:
    yeah we know... you and a few others here have 9/11 all figured out :rolleyes:

    When did I say I have it all figured out?

    it's only English and words try not to let it work you over so hard upstairs.

    viva la Rock Band
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    When did I say I have it all figured out?
    when did you say you didnt? ;)
    it's only English and words try not to let it work you over so hard upstairs.
    thanks for clearing that up :rolleyes:
    viva la Rock Band
    what the hell does that mean?
  • my2hands wrote:
    when did you say you didnt? ;)
    it's only English and words try not to let it work you over so hard upstairs. [/quotes] thanks for clearing that up :rolleyes:

    what the hell does that mean?

    I've just never seen people insist on believing a pack of proven pathological liars at face value over and over again no matter what.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    The Bush family has been manipulating politics for decades and decades.

    Prescott Bush tipping Nixon's hat ...

    Nixon got his start in politics by responding to a classified in a news paper, placed by Prescott, looking for a young and malleable congressional candidate to do his bidding.

    Prescott Bush with Eisenhower and again, in the White House.

    Prescott was partly responsible for encouraging Ike to run, and he was significantly responsible for putting Nixon on the ticket as VP.

    Then of course, we have George HW Bush, generally alleged to be involved at a high level with the JFK \ Bay of Pigs "thing", and a spook and behind the scenes political manipulator in general. Standing in front of the School Book Depository, just after JFK assassination.

    Bush admitted over the phone to the FBI that he had been \ or was going to be in Dallas that evening. Hmm.

    Later he tried to tell the world he was out of the country at the time, and then later still he claimed he really didn't remember where he was the day of the shooting. Barbara on the other hand maintains that he was at home the whole time. Billing records prove that he had a hotel room at the Sheraton Dallas that day (11-22-63) however.

    This is a family that has manipulated the entire political fabric of this country since at least the start of WWII and the whole Harriman\Nazi thing.

    They continued to do so, right on through murdering a man of peace, covering it up, and throwing the country in to the clutches of big oil, big banks, and the CIA.

    Boo to Bush.
    :(

    Thanks for that but I know ALL about the Bush Family history very well. Man you posted that quickly like as if you had it waiting at your finger tips.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • g under p wrote:
    Thanks for that but I know ALL about the Bush Family history very well. Man you posted that quickly like as if you had it waiting at your finger tips.

    Peace

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    A helluva drug.

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