Anyone here from New Hampshire?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

That knows of anyone, or they themselves voted for either McCain or Hillary in this primary?

Is anyone else kinda wondering if the results are for real?

Is this the general consensus in NH in and around the dinner table?

Commy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

That knows of anyone, or they themselves voted for either McCain or Hillary in this primary?

Is anyone else kinda wondering if the results are for real?

Is this the general consensus in NH in and around the dinner table?

The general consensus at my dinner table, and this is the truth, is that economic institutions have won yet another victory in the class war.

but no I am not from NH.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Commy wrote:

The general consensus at my dinner table, and this is the truth, is that economic institutions have won yet another victory in the class war.

but no I am not from NH.

I remember an interview with Cheney, and he was asked who he thought would win the next election he instantly said "a republican" with a peculiar expression, and far too much confidence. Perhaps I read into it too much.

I'm beginning to wonder if everything with the vote count is on the up and up. Are the primaries tallied electronically or via paper?

Forget the GOP, but who is seriously voting for Hillary in such large numbers?

Seems odd.

Commy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I remember an interview with Cheney, and he was asked who he thought would win the next election he instantly said "a republican" with a peculiar expression, and far too much confidence. Perhaps I read into it too much.

I beginning to wonder if everything with the vote count is on the up and up. Are the primaries tallied electronically or via paper?

Forget the GOP, but who is seriously voting for Hillary in such large numbers?

Seems odd.

Women are voting for Hilary. I had a debate with my mother this evening, and repeatedly asked for specifics as to why Hillary Clinton would be a good president.

Although not in so many words, the most common answer was that simply because she was female, she would do the right thing.

Specifics seemed to have nothing to do with it it, and I should add my Mom served on the city council here and is somewhat informed.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Commy wrote:

Women are voting for Hilary. I had a debate with my mother this evening, and repeatedly asked for specifics as to why Hillary Clinton would be a good president.

Although not in so many words, the most common answer was that simply because she was female, she would do the right thing.

Specifics seemed to have nothing to do with it it, and I should add my Mom served on the city council here and is somewhat informed.

I'm getting the feeling not too many people have found the time to look into the details of what has taken place during the past two terms, and are just going on names and faces.

I remember when I used to vote like that.

Commy

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I'm getting the feeling not too many people have found the time to look into the details of what has taken place during the past two terms, and are just going on names and faces.

I remember when I used to vote like that.

If voting could change the system it would be illegal.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Potential voter fraud:

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23203

scroll to the very bottom:
http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#val=NHREP21

Byrnzie

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I'm getting the feeling not too many people have found the time to look into the details of what has taken place during the past two terms, and are just going on names and faces.

I remember when I used to vote like that.

I've only voted once in my life and that was a vote against Tony Blair about two years ago.
Quite frankly, I think the whole election/voting shabang once every four years is a farce. If I had it my way there'd be a vote at least once a year.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

well New Hampshire really isnt that representative of the country. it wouldnt suprise me if Hilarry and McCain lost every primary from here on out.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

well New Hampshire really isnt that representative of the country. it wouldn't surprise me if Hillary and McCain lost every primary from here on out.

I'm pretty surprised Iowa seemed to get the no war vibe better than NH. Dennis Kucinich got 1%?? Heck Ron Paul beat Giuliani in Iowa, but lost to him in NH?

So I guess many people are just pretending to want the war to stop. I find that very hard to believe.

Some folks from Sutton NH are claiming voter fraud, as there was 0 votes registered for RP and they distinctly remember voting for him.

Can't wait to see the next one.

Thecure

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I remember an interview with Cheney, and he was asked who he thought would win the next election he instantly said "a republican" with a peculiar expression, and far too much confidence. Perhaps I read into it too much.

I'm beginning to wonder if everything with the vote count is on the up and up. Are the primaries tallied electronically or via paper?

Forget the GOP, but who is seriously voting for Hillary in such large numbers?

Seems odd.

to answer your question, people are voting for Hillary. for whatever reason, the thing with democracy is that all people are allowed to vote. there is no test that you must pass to vote. just because something is important to you and myself and other around here does not mean that it matters to other (sadly, perhaps)

also of course Dick will say a rep. that is his party and he always has that look on his face.

ledvedderman

This simply came down to the economy being in the toilet and women getting out and voting. People remember how great the economy was during the Clinton years and they assume that Hillary can bring that back. I'm also assuming that the debate on Saturday where Edwards joined in on attacking Hillary, the "iron my shirt" thing at her rally the other day, and the "breakdown" she had the other day all caused women to go out and vote for her.

I really hope that Nevada union still endorses Obama today, but I don't see that happening. That would deliver that state and I think South Carolina is going to be a knock down drag out.

The only good thing is that this forces Hillary to put resources into SC, where she was thinking about skipping.

ledvedderman

Another question I have for Hillary supporters is; What polls are you looking at to make you think that you're the most electable candidate in November. She LOSES to almost every major GOP candidate, while Obama and Edwards both WIN those.

It's upsetting that NH went with two old school/Washington candidates last night. Hell,even though Huckabee is a religious nut, I respect the man for at least embracing this "change" movement.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

A demonstration of the Diebold machine. It claims NH is still using them.

The thing has a removable brain that's hosted on a flash card. The paper receipt area is under lock and key, but the entire brains of the unit can be popped in and out with a simple alan key? Seems unusual, to have the most important part of the process be designed as the least secure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs

ledvedderman

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

A demonstration of the Diebold machine. It claims NH is still using them.

The thing has a removable brain that's hosted on a flash card. The paper receipt area is under lock and key, but the entire brains of the unit can be popped in and out with a simple alan key? Seems unusual, to have the most important part of the process be designed as the least secure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiiaBqwqkXs

Roland,

I work at the State Board of Elections. From everything I've seen through our division that tests voting equipment the only way for someone to rig this is to somehow get a laptop computer into the polls during the day and rig this. The cards come totally wiped clean of anything.

I'm not a Diebold fan at all because they haven't made it any safer than it is now. There shouldn't even be any sort of way for any of these machines to be tampered with.

I saw a report once that showed that just one letter of one line of code would be needed to rig the election for someone.

BlackCorduroy

I'm from NH...McCain is certainly no surprise, he is well liked around here. However, I was sure Obama would take New Hampshire. I attended the Democratic Party's 100 Club dinner the other night where all the candidates spoke and Obama was clearly the favorite. I know many people who were voting for Obama and only a few for Hillary.