CNN Health Story Promotes Pizza, Ice Cream, Burgers as "Great for Your Waist"

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Good ol the MSM looking out for the interests common folk... Is there no level of bullshit they won't stretch to shovel?

http://www.newstarget.com/022453.html

"Do you ever wonder just to what degree mainstream media (MSM) organizations are influenced by food corporations? On January 2, 2008, CNN Health posted a story that claims pizza, burgers, Canadian bacon and ice cream are diet-friendly and good for your waist line!

Did they mean it's good for watching your waist line grow to an ever-expanding size? No, they actually mean these foods are good for slimming your waist line!

The article was brought to my attention by a concerned NewsTarget reader. When I first saw it on CNN's website, I thought was a hoax. But it's no hoax. Turns out it was written by Health Magazine!

That fact alone should make you wonder exactly what's going on over at Health Magazine (as well as CNN Health). It seems that the people writing these articles are nutritional idiots who know nothing about the correlation between food and health. Where to begin with dissecting this awful piece of so-called reporting?"

"Of course, this Health Magazine article didn't say these foods wouldn't give you cancer. They just said they're good for your waist line. And I suppose they have a point there. Nothing causes you to lose weight and shrink your waist line faster than getting pancreatic cancer! Eat more processed meat and you, too, can lose weight faster than you ever dreamed possible... that is, if you survive the cancer."

The CNN Article:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/HEALTH/diet.fitness/01/02/healthmag.bad.foods/index.html

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Jeanie

Um actually Roland, Dr Manny Noakes the author of the CSIRO Diet which was commissioned and researched by the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organization has some fairly impressive credentials and her nutritional research is pretty spot on actually. There was some talk that it was funded by the Meat Industry but it was shown that lean meat in your diet can actually help you to lose weight. I have found since increasing my intake of lean red meat in a week I am much more satisfied, less fatigued (well as less fatigued as I can be) and generally much more energetic and definitely I have much less sugar cravings. As to ice cream it IS an excellent source of calcium and I have been concentrating on including a serving of full fat dairy in my diet every day for about 6 months now and it was the only winter in my life that I did not gain weight. I actually lost weight and really easily too. I can honestly say that I eat all of the things on that list, red meat, ice cream, eggs, pizza in moderation regularly the canadian bacon not so much. Since I stopped counting calories slavishly, avoiding particular foods, worry about food combinations, stressing over fat grams and choosing healthy options every day things have been much simpler and much better.
So yeah, MSN CNN generally not so great with their news but there's a few things in that article that I can certainly recommend.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

There's nothing on this earth that will convince me that Pizza, Hamburgers, Ice cream, and Bacon are calorie reducing foods.

It just isn't there.

Exceeding one's base metabolic rate causes weight gain from my experience.

The above foods are a sure fire way to exceed ones BMR.

If what they said was actually true, most people would all be skinny as rakes.

Jeanie

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

There's nothing on this earth that will convince me that Pizza, Hamburgers, Ice cream, and Bacon are calorie reducing foods.

It just isn't there.

Exceeding one's base metabolic rate causes weight gain from my experience.

The above foods are a sure fire way to exceed ones BMR.

If what they said was actually true, most people would all be skinny as rakes.

Well that's cool Roland, I'm not trying to convince you.

I'm just telling you what's worked for me and most of the things they are speaking of in that article have worked for me. AND if you'd told me that they would up until 12 months ago I'd have thought you were nuts. I've done everything else and I'm happy with the results of trying this. We've all gotta do what suits us.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Jeanie wrote:

Well that's cool Roland, I'm not trying to convince you.

I'm just telling you what's worked for me and most of the things they are speaking of in that article have worked for me. AND if you'd told me that they would up until 12 months ago I'd have thought you were nuts. I've done everything else and I'm happy with the results of trying this. We've all gotta do what suits us.

I'm just going on the principle that a calorie is a calorie. If it goes in, and isn't burned off, it's inside you and doesn't go anywhere, so it's stored as fat for later. Its' all exactly like a bank account imo.

You can still eat these foods occasionally on cheat days (once a week), as this tricks the body by varying caloric intake to keep the metabolism from adapting to a set rate of fast (a below BMR diet).

In general though these foods eaten on a regular basis, are so calorie dense per portion size, that they make people gain a lot of weight and rather quickly.

A regimen comprised of these foods making up diet in and around the 2000 calorie zone (1500 for women) would leave the average person feeling very hungry all day long. It's a guaranteed recipe for overconsumption and weight gain imo.

I still think the article is insane, and irresponsible, and the author should be force fed cheese spray until they pop...

stuckinline

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Good ol the MSM looking out for the interests common folk... Is there no level of bullshit they won't stretch to shovel?

http://www.newstarget.com/022453.html

"Do you ever wonder just to what degree mainstream media (MSM) organizations are influenced by food corporations? On January 2, 2008, CNN Health posted a story that claims pizza, burgers, Canadian bacon and ice cream are diet-friendly and good for your waist line!

Did they mean it's good for watching your waist line grow to an ever-expanding size? No, they actually mean these foods are good for slimming your waist line!



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but, the amount of salt and fat in these four foods are NOT good for you.

Jeanie

Seriously wtf difference does it make?

We are ALL going to die anyway. So I'll look after my life and you worry about yours.

Hitch-Hiker

gluten919 wrote:

but, the amount of salt and fat in these four foods are NOT good for you.

Neither is eating nothing but fruit salad, but you'll never hear anyone say it. Too much of anything will have detrimental effects on your body.

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I don't think the article is that bad actually. It's basically just saying that replacing some carbs in your diet with more fat and protein will help you lose weight...which is true in almost every case (assuming everything else remains the same). And it's also encouraging people to eat less refined carbs (like with the whole wheat pizza crust thing), which helps control insulin response...which can help reduce fat storage.

The problem is people will look at the title and think they can eat all the pizza and ice cream they want, and lose weight.

Derrick

People should increase their metabolism by playing Rock Band, then they could increase their capacity to eat fatty foods like this REALLY BAD CNN ARTICLE suggests.

fanch75

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I'm just going on the principle that a calorie is a calorie. If it goes in, and isn't burned off, it's inside you and doesn't go anywhere, so it's stored as fat for later. Its' all exactly like a bank account imo.

I love principled fundamentals.

They can't be argued against and stand the test of time, regardless of whatever fad diet works for a given group of people for a few months.

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fanch75 wrote:

I love principled fundamentals.

They can't be argued against and stand the test of time, regardless of whatever fad diet works for a given group of people for a few months.

Yes, technically a calorie is a calorie. However, going by that principal you could eat 3000 calories in just pizza every day and maintain your weight. This might be true over a period of a week, but not in the long term. Where your calories come from affects your BMR.

Jeanie

http://www.csiro.au/

http://www.csiro.au/people/Manny.Noakes.html

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

its the whole glycemic index thing

fanch75

Saturnal wrote:

Yes, technically a calorie is a calorie. However, going by that principal you could eat 3000 calories in just pizza every day and maintain your weight. This might be true over a period of a week, but not in the long term. Where your calories come from affects your BMR.

Well that's an extreme example. Who would actually do that?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

in related news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080103/ap_on_fe_st/odd_buffet_ban

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fanch75 wrote:

Well that's an extreme example. Who would actually do that?

I know, I'm just saying that realistically, a calorie isn't just a calorie...it depends where it comes from.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

gluten919 wrote:

but, the amount of salt and fat in these four foods are NOT good for you.

Unless making these items at home, sugar as well.

I've been reading a few reports now that baconis essentially cancer food.

"bacon is a processed meat that's directly linked to increased risks of pancreatic cancer, colon cancer, leukemia and other cancers. The increased risk of heart disease and cancer from eating processed meats is so large that the World Cancer Research Fund recently made a bold announcement and warned that processed meats should be avoided by everyone. There is no safe level of consumption of processed meats, the WCRF says."


Ouch..

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Saturnal wrote:

Yes, technically a calorie is a calorie. However, going by that principal you could eat 3000 calories in just pizza every day and maintain your weight. This might be true over a period of a week, but not in the long term. Where your calories come from affects your BMR.

How is food choice affecting how much energy your body expends to stay alive?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

in related news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080103/ap_on_fe_st/odd_buffet_ban

"She says, 'Y'all fat, and y'all eat too much,'" Labit said. lol...

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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

How is food choice affecting how much energy your body expends to stay alive?

Just think about what goes into calculating your BMR...basically it depends on your lean mass. The more lean mass you have, the higher your BMR is. Lean mass includes water, bone, and muscle. If you eat 3000 calories in pure sugar per day for a month, you'd definitely lose some muscle mass. You wouldn't be getting any protein, and your body would start to break down your muscles to get it. So your BMR would drop...therefore, you'd have to start eating less calories per day in order to keep up with your decreasing BMR if you wanted to maintain your weight.

That's an extreme case, but it definitely proves the point that what you eat affects your BMR. It's not just how many calories you take in.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Saturnal wrote:

Just think about what goes into calculating your BMR...basically it depends on your lean mass. The more lean mass you have, the higher your BMR is. Lean mass includes water, bone, and muscle. If you eat 3000 calories in pure sugar per day for a month, you'd definitely lose some muscle mass. You wouldn't be getting any protein, and your body would start to break down your muscles to get it. So your BMR would drop...therefore, you'd have to start eating less calories per day in order to keep up with your decreasing BMR if you wanted to maintain your weight.

That's an extreme case, but it definitely proves the point that what you eat affects your BMR. It's not just how many calories you take in.

Ok if the equation is taken outside of reality I suppose so sure.

However your body is changing not the calorie, so a unit of energy (calorie) still remains a calorie in the literal sense.

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RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Ok if the equation is taken outside of reality I suppose so sure.

However your body is changing not the calorie, so a unit of energy (calorie) still remains a calorie in the literal sense.

Yea I agree, a calorie is a calorie in the literal sense. But your body reacts differently to those calories depending on where they come from. So realistically, it definitely matters WHAT you're eating, not just how much you're eating.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Saturnal wrote:

Yea I agree, a calorie is a calorie in the literal sense. But your body reacts differently to those calories depending on where they come from. So realistically, it definitely matters WHAT you're eating, not just how much you're eating.

I'm taking for granted people are already exercising and eating proper food ratios.