67 Percent Believe War In Iraq Creates More Terrorists

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Voters Believe Iraq Is Creating More Terrorists, Distracting From Domestic Priorities

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/05/aspen-poll/

Ahnimus

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surferdude

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Voters Believe Iraq Is Creating More Terrorists, Distracting From Domestic Priorities

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/05/aspen-poll/

I wonder if this is the same group of people who believe in the bible more than evolution? Funny how you can think people are stupid when they disagree with you, then unwittingly think these people know something about foreign affairs and think they're smart for agreeing with you.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

The last pull out in Afghanistan created the Taliban scourge from arming and training the Mujahadeen. Now that the US govt has armed and trained another huge army in Iraq does history again repeat itself?

Cluster-fuckola? or was Vietnam winnable after all....sigh.

oh look a huge pile of fresh shit...let's go lavish in it.

what to do...what to do.

Ahnimus

surferdude wrote:

I wonder if this is the same group of people who believe in the bible more than evolution? Funny how you can think people are stupid when they disagree with you, then unwittingly think these people know something about foreign affairs and think they're smart for agreeing with you.

Let us make the distinction between Idiocy (mental retardation) and Ignorance (lack of knowledge). In either case its possible for an individual/group to be wrong about one thing and right about another, but in the former this is much more unlikely than in the latter. I would suggest Ignorant and/or Gullible as a better label for those who believe in the Bible.

Eliot Rosewater

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Voters Believe Iraq Is Creating More Terrorists, Distracting From Domestic Priorities

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/05/aspen-poll/

So only 33% of voters are complete fucking idiots? I'm confused...if that's the case then how did this guy ever get in office?

Eliot Rosewater

Ahnimus wrote:

Let us make the distinction between Idiocy (mental retardation) and Ignorance (lack of knowledge). In either case its possible for an individual/group to be wrong about one thing and right about another, but in the former this is much more unlikely than in the latter. I would suggest Ignorant and/or Gullible as a better label for those who believe in the Bible.

I'd agree with that. I'm often confused by how some of the smartest people I've ever known can believe in a certain religion that's predominent here. I mean, they're smart people but seem to turn off their logic when it comes to religion. So idiocy isn't it, it's the desire to believe, which I'd also classify as ignorance or gullibility.

Ahnimus

don't gimme no wrote:

I'd agree with that. I'm often confused by how some of the smartest people I've ever known can believe in a certain religion that's predominent here. I mean, they're smart people but seem to turn off their logic when it comes to religion. So idiocy isn't it, it's the desire to believe, which I'd also classify as ignorance or gullibility.

Yea, I think the terms idiot, moron, cretin, etc.. are used too lightly. I'm really developing a problem with it.

surferdude

don't gimme no wrote:

I'd agree with that. I'm often confused by how some of the smartest people I've ever known can believe in a certain religion that's predominent here. I mean, they're smart people but seem to turn off their logic when it comes to religion. So idiocy isn't it, it's the desire to believe, which I'd also classify as ignorance or gullibility.

But when they agree with your beliefs they are smart and discerning. Did I get that right?

Who cares what the general population believes. We are so uneducated as to the actual facts of what's happening in most cases we could just flip a coin and be as accurate.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

don't gimme no wrote:

So only 33% of voters are complete fucking idiots? I'm confused...if that's the case then how did this guy ever get in office?

He who laughs last sometimes thinks the slowest. Eventually even the biggest intellectual slackers catch on.

edit: As well, the deduction that the situation is not getting any better eludes very few. The only other reasoning available by default is that it is in fact getting worse.

Oh and the vote count thing was a bit sketchy

Eliot Rosewater

surferdude wrote:

But when they agree with your beliefs they are smart and discerning. Did I get that right?

There are many people I disagree with who are very smart and very discerning. They just don't take shots at me on message boards...

pjalive21

so 67% of people have no clue what they are talking about...the majority doesnt always prove to be right either, the reason why we ARE in Iraq keep in mind is a perfect example of that

terrorism, violence, bombs, suicide attacks have always been there and have always been planed, Iraq just happens to be an excuse to attack, but like they really need a reason??

what is wrong with people...there would be more and more terrorist with or without the Iraq war....9/11 and the USS Cole did happen before Iraq part 2, right? im sure there are other attacks that werent as "mainstream" before all this post 9-11 era

Coming back to life

The likes of the taliban are replaced by the west like for like. A man in post-taliban Afghanistan was nearly hung for converting from Islam. If it is ok to do that, then it's ok to blow up planes etc. So yeah, current foreign policy IS bringing up more terrorists. A bit more criticism of Al-Qaeda might reduce that number though, especially of home grown terrorists.

mdigenakis

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, I think the terms idiot, moron, cretin, etc.. are used too lightly. I'm really developing a problem with it.

I take offense to the usage of the word Cretin as slander, because i am creten. You didn't mispell it, but if you put an e instead of an i, then their would be trouble!