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Barak Obama v.s. Ron Paul

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
"An attempted non-bias voting record comparison between two candidates, Barack Obama and Ron Paul."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVKSfwfy0h8
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    "An attempted non-bias voting record comparison

    LOL, I don't know about unbiased. But I'll take Paul over Obama any day.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I'd love to see a debate between just the two of them, Ron Paul would clean Obama's clock. One can only dream.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Paul voted no on Iraq War, McCain voted Yes, Hillary voted Yes, Obama didn't vote at all, as he was not a senator yet.

    Paul voted against the Patriot Act and every bill to maintain it. Obama voted for it, and its extensions.

    Paul voted against funding the war. Obama voted for it.

    Paul is against a national ID act. Obama is for it.

    Paul is against the federal reserve. Obama is for it.

    Paul will end the war on drugs. Obama will keep it.

    Paul voted no for sanctions on Iran. Obama voted yes.

    Paul does not take money or give speechs for AIPAC. Obama does.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Nice find, Roland :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Paul voted no on Iraq War, McCain voted Yes Hillary voted Yes Obama didn't not vote at all he was not a senator yet
    if this is obama versus paul this has to be removed, since obama was not part of that vote. and actualyl spoke out against the war from day 1
    Paul voted against the Patriot Act and ever bill to maintain it. Obama all voted for it and its extensions.
    ok, theres 1
    Paul voted against funding the war. Obama voted for it.
    do we really need to go over that again. and by the way, sdoes paul vote for anything?
    Paul is against a national ID act. Obama is for it.
    i have no problem at all with a national ID, you already have one in your wallet. it is called a social security card.
    Paul is against the federal reserve. Obama is for it.
    big deal
    Paul will end the war on drugs. Obama will keep it
    where does it say obama will continue the war on drugs? and if you havent noticed, this country is currently plagued by the illegal drug trade. my job gives me first hand experince in this matter, it cannot be ignored. the stratgey has to be changed, no doubt. but not ignored.
    Paul voted no for sanctions on Iran. Obama voted yes.
    i have no problem with sanctions on iran, and neither does most of the world
    Paul does not take money or give speechs for AIPAC. Obama does.
    so what? you really hate israel dont you. just admit it.


    what you just brought is absolutely weak
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    if this is obama versus paul this has to be removed, since obama was not part of that vote. and actualyl spoke out against the war from day 1

    ok, theres 1

    do we really need to go over that again. and by the way, sdoes paul vote for anything?

    i have no problem at all with a national ID, you already have one in your wallet. it is called a social security card.

    big deal

    where does it say obama will continue the war on drugs? and if you havent noticed, this country is currently plagued by the illegal drug trade. my job gives me first hand experince in this matter, it cannot be ignored. the stratgey has to be changed, no doubt. but not ignored.

    i have no problem with sanctions on iran, and neither does most of the world

    so what? you really hate israel dont you. just admit it.


    what you just brought is absolutely weak

    You're certainly entitled to your opinions and ideologies. I think all those facts speak for themselves to a respectively noticeable degree that is worth mentioning.

    edit: I should add this is where the "we want change" phrase becomes open to infinite interpretation.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    my2hands wrote:

    what you just brought is absolutely weak

    I find it hilarious that you are such a message board tough guy but I agree with obama on the issues mentioned.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    I find it hilarious that you are such a message board tough guy but I agree with obama on the issues mentioned.


    You want a national ID card?

    haha.....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    You want a national ID card?

    haha.....

    hmmm well I have a drivers license and ss card. not really sure how the national ID card makes much difference.

    omg

    lol
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    hmmm well I have a drivers license and ss card. not really sure how the national ID card makes much difference.

    omg

    lol


    but you just vote to spend money on it...

    that seems incredibly stupid to say the least. ;)

    one could say warped...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • lazymoon13lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    but you just vote to spend money on it...

    that seems incredibly stupid to say the least. ;)

    one could say warped...

    o money is your concern? wont be the first thing the government wastes money on. not really a big deal. how much does it costs anyway?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    You want a national ID card?

    haha.....

    whats your concerns with a National ID act/card?


    lots of people also have passports... state drivers licenses... social security cards... school id's... work id's... the list goes on and on
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    I find it hilarious that you are such a message board tough guy but I agree with obama on the issues mentioned.

    message board tough guy? because i said what he brought was weak? it was weak, but not nearly as weak as half the shit you bring good friend ;)
  • potluckpotluck Posts: 170
    Ron Paul is a true republican. Why are we comparing a bleeding heart liberal with a true champion of the constitution?

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    whats your concerns with a National ID act/card?


    lots of people also have passports... state drivers licenses... social security cards... school id's... work id's... the list goes on and on

    to quote Spinal Tap...."yes but ths one goes to 11" ;)

    (it's that easy)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    It is a great video though...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Paul voted no on Iraq War, McCain voted Yes, Hillary voted Yes, Obama didn't vote at all, as he was not a senator yet.

    Paul voted against the Patriot Act and every bill to maintain it. Obama voted for it, and its extensions.

    Paul voted against funding the war. Obama voted for it.

    Paul is against a national ID act. Obama is for it.

    Paul is against the federal reserve. Obama is for it.

    Paul will end the war on drugs. Obama will keep it.

    Paul voted no for sanctions on Iran. Obama voted yes.

    Paul does not take money or give speechs for AIPAC. Obama does.

    does the term "sound bite" mean anything to you? :D talk about simplistic statements. every issue here is more complicated than these one-line snippets. :rolleyes: and the fact that you KNOW that just makes your post all the more cheesy and cheap.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    sweetpotato wrote:
    does the term "sound bite" mean anything to you? :D talk about simplistic statements. every issue here is more complicated than these one-line snippets. :rolleyes: and the fact that you KNOW that just makes your post all the more cheesy and cheap.


    Oh you mean like the '100 years of war' sound byte you guys are running with?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • jrb112476jrb112476 Posts: 43
    could the American (iditotic) people NOT vote for Ron Paul....I think I may have just answered my own question....People cannot see that there are no differences between Hillary, Obama, Mccain, Bush, Gore, etc. They are the elite of the country and will all adhere to private banks and corporations. Wake up people and stop seeing things in black and white.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    whats your concerns with a National ID act/card?


    lots of people also have passports... state drivers licenses... social security cards... school id's... work id's... the list goes on and on

    It ain't gonna do s@#$ but cost money that isn't there to spend in the first place.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    sweetpotato wrote:
    does the term "sound bite" mean anything to you? :D talk about simplistic statements. every issue here is more complicated than these one-line snippets. :rolleyes: and the fact that you KNOW that just makes your post all the more cheesy and cheap.


    The issues (and their answers) speak for themselves.

    Has nothing to do with me...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    hehe

    http://blogs.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/archives/obamapaul.jpg
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
    jrb112476 wrote:
    could the American (iditotic) people NOT vote for Ron Paul....I think I may have just answered my own question....People cannot see that there are no differences between Hillary, Obama, Mccain, Bush, Gore, etc. They are the elite of the country and will all adhere to private banks and corporations. Wake up people and stop seeing things in black and white.

    So anyone who doesn't agree with Paul is an idiot? If I was a conservative I would vote for him, as he's the only true conservative in the group. But I don't agree with many of his positions. This is saying something, but I think you get the medal for most ignorant post today. Congratulations!
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

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  • Sludge FactorySludge Factory Posts: 976
    my2hands wrote:

    i have no problem at all with a national ID, you already have one in your wallet. it is called a social security card.

    Personally, I think keeping your social security card in your wallet is a bad idea. In fact, and I might need to double check this, but I think it says on the back of the card or the packaging that comes with the card that you should store it someplace safe.
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