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For the Alex Jones doubters

RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
What make you of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xi9urBuoMY
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Again, he has points but he always goes waaaay off the deep end.

    What do you think about this:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=kb9aA8JL0VI

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVl-VtIlkLc
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • ForestBrainForestBrain Posts: 460
    I am glad somebody out there puts so much time and researched into the government. I respect the guy, and though I already knew a lot of stuff he talks about, it was still enlightening. The only thing that bothers me is that he thinks there is something that can be done to stop it.
    When life gives you lemons, throw them at somebody.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    How about this one? It's supposedly all factual information.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-qomGB1C4c
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Again, he has points but he always goes waaaay off the deep end.

    What do you think about this:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=kb9aA8JL0VI

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=iVl-VtIlkLc

    I think he's much better at politics than global warming.

    He's right about wanting to decrease power structures (as opposed to increasing them). The framework for 100% free reign on citizens is trying to take hold.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    http://www.politicalhobbyist.com/debunked/
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Ok this is definitely the best one in the series.

    Some of the voices he does are absolutely hilarious

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HsqSvTWYRU
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I think he's much better at politics than global warming.

    He's right about wanting to decrease power structures (as opposed to increasing them). The framework for 100% free reign on citizens is trying to take hold.

    Global Warming is a political issue. Jones is wrong about this so how can you trust that he's right about the rest of this stuff? There's a group of people even more paranoid that Jones (if that's possible) who believe Jone's is an agent of the institution and a Zionist. This just gets weirder and weirder.

    About this no government/anarchist sentiment....who will have power once the govt is gone? The rich? How will we protect the environment, the workers, the less fortunate, the uneducated, the uninsured, the exploited and oppressed without democracy and certain government regulations? How can we trust the rich to do the right thing? I believe government can work if it truly represents the people, the majority. The government can be comprised of people who are representing the masses and society can keep it in check.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Global Warming is a political issue.

    No! GW is a scientific issue. The only problems come when people try to MAKE it into a political issue. And the credible science is pretty clear on global warming.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
    —Dorothy Parker

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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    godpt3 wrote:
    No! GW is a scientific issue. The only problems come when people try to MAKE it into a political issue. And the credible science is pretty clear on global warming.


    If you believe it's affecting life (which I do) it can very much be a political issue.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Global Warming is a political issue. Jones is wrong about this so how can you trust that he's right about the rest of this stuff? There's a group of people even more paranoid that Jones (if that's possible) who believe Jone's is an agent of the institution and a Zionist. This just gets weirder and weirder.

    About this no government/anarchist sentiment....who will have power once the govt is gone? The rich? How will we protect the environment, the workers, the less fortunate, the uneducated, the uninsured, the exploited and oppressed without democracy and certain government regulations? How can we trust the rich to do the right thing? I believe government can work if it truly represents the people, the majority. The government can be comprised of people who are representing the masses and society can keep it in check.

    What if the people in charge of the federal reserve and world banks are in fact Jewish and resent the worlds view on Israel very deeply, and are executing a plan to turn the oppression back on to the oppressor.

    Namely establish and bend the laws to make it possible (already done) so that anyone who speaks out can/will just disappear. What they decide to do after that is anyone's guess. The media will be controlled by a single source so what isn't reported doesn't even exist.

    It's all there in black and white and taking shape...what more evidence is needed?

    When is the majority finally going to figure it out?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    What if the people in charge of the federal reserve and world banks are in fact Jewish and resent the worlds view on Israel very deeply, and are executing a plan to turn the oppression back on to the oppressor.

    Namely establish and bend the laws to make it possible (already done) so that anyone who speaks out can/will just disappear. What they decide to do after that is anyone's guess. The media will be controlled by a single source so what isn't reported doesn't even exist.

    It's all there in black and white and taking shape...what more evidence is needed?

    When is the majority finally going to figure it out?

    Okay, thanks for addressing my points.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Okay, thanks for addressing my points.

    I don't know if that's sarcastic or not. I thought this was interesting on how Ron Paul says reduce government.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGOiv7sA4w

    Oh btw I'm not arguing the benefit of the existence of government. I concerned with this particular movement to erase sovereign identity and personal rights in the name of a suspicious war on terror. It's really that obvious to me.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I don't know if that's sarcastic or not. I thought this was interesting on how Ron Paul says reduce government.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGGOiv7sA4w

    Yes, it was. I don't care what Paul has to ramble about concerning the government right now. I've heard it before. I'm asking you what YOU think about:

    About this no government/anarchist sentiment....who will have power once the govt is gone? The rich? How will we protect the environment, the workers, the less fortunate, the uneducated, the uninsured, the exploited and oppressed without democracy and certain government regulations? How can we trust the rich to do the right thing? I believe government can work if it truly represents the people, the majority. The government can be comprised of people who are representing the masses and society can keep it in check.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Yes, it was. I don't care what Paul has to ramble about concerning the government right now. I've heard it before. I'm asking you what YOU think about:

    About this no government/anarchist sentiment....who will have power once the govt is gone? The rich? How will we protect the environment, the workers, the less fortunate, the uneducated, the uninsured, the exploited and oppressed without democracy and certain government regulations? How can we trust the rich to do the right thing? I believe government can work if it truly represents the people, the majority. The government can be comprised of people who are representing the masses and society can keep it in check.

    Gov't was all working pretty good at one point, whatever that model is/was. Now it's a bit of a disaster, and with all the different opinions and completely intermixed societies and immigration, it's only logical to assume the war has to turn internally on it's home soil as well to be a success.

    Somewhere in the process hell on earth is created and society rebels and goes nuts, martial law is declared, and the goon squads swoops in. There's already laws about yelling or raising your voice to authority makes you an enemy combatant.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Now it's a bit of a disaster, and with all the different opinions and completely intermixed societies and immigration, it's only logical to assume the war has to turn internally on it's home soil as well to be a success.

    What does that even mean?
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Somewhere in the process hell on earth is created and society rebels and goes nuts, martial law is declared, and the goon squads swoops in. There's already laws about yelling or raising your voice to authority makes you an enemy combatant.

    So this is what you, Alex Jones, and Ron Paul believe is going to happen? So we should just abolish the govt?

    Again, what about the groups and issues that need protection?
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://www.wingtv.net/thorn2006/censorship.html

    http://www.opposingdigits.com/alex/
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    godpt3 wrote:
    http://www.politicalhobbyist.com/debunked/

    What is this link provided for?

    It is about debunking conspiracy theories, it is admittedly out of date, and EVERY link i tried to click on came up ERROR 404 NOT FOUND.

    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    What does that even mean?



    So this is what you, Alex Jones, and Ron Paul believe is going to happen? So we should just abolish the govt?

    Again, what about the groups and issues that need protection?

    I never said I wanted to abolish the gov't altogether. The institution of it is not the question, it's the state of affairs it's in right now.

    It is to oppose this latest predicament the "no borders one world government scenario".
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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