Write Your Thoughts: On the Future of Iraq
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Me, of course, I want the troops pulled out and shipped home NOW. But I understand that it can't happen that easily, and it can't be planned that quickly. Or is it, that it can't happen that quickly, and it can't be planned that easily?
2 brigades per month would be great, but so many diehard Republicans want to keep all our troops there "until the job is done" (whatever that job may be, and how we'll know it's done, is still undecided).
How do you all think it should happen? COULD happen? For those of you who think all 130,000 troops should stay after December, what do you propose to use that many troops for, and how do you intend to get them all home safely once they've been put to use?
What is YOUR escape plan from Iraq? Oh, sorry, your victory plan?
Please share with me. Enlighten me. And offer me links if I can't take your word for it that your word is wiser than mine? Thanks.
PS: My nephew gets shipped there next week. A week from today, exactly. He turns 20 in January. Twenty years old, exactly.
2 brigades per month would be great, but so many diehard Republicans want to keep all our troops there "until the job is done" (whatever that job may be, and how we'll know it's done, is still undecided).
How do you all think it should happen? COULD happen? For those of you who think all 130,000 troops should stay after December, what do you propose to use that many troops for, and how do you intend to get them all home safely once they've been put to use?
What is YOUR escape plan from Iraq? Oh, sorry, your victory plan?
Please share with me. Enlighten me. And offer me links if I can't take your word for it that your word is wiser than mine? Thanks.
PS: My nephew gets shipped there next week. A week from today, exactly. He turns 20 in January. Twenty years old, exactly.
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Ahhhhhh such a tough question to answer but it seems that question the future of Iraq will become more difficult when we have mercenaries like this to deal with.
From the article above we appear to have renegade pirates roaming under the guise of protecting our officials doing whatever they please without consequences.
We're building permanent military bases, a billion $$$ US Embassy there, so there appears to be no end in sight of us leaving Iraq according to the administration.
I would like to see the troops return home also and gradually and by the time the President leaves office. Then elect Dennis Kucinich for President who would create a Department of Peace.
Strange the United States has never had such a department.
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When a company founded by a billionaire gets funding like this you can see why they can act like cowboys on steriods.
Just imagine how our US military troops feel when Blackwater mercenary are paid per day what a US military gets per month. Iraq is a mess no matter what is told the the American public. Getting out is no easy task.
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I think we all tend to look at Iraq from an American point of view... that is... what Iraq should be like as far as America's Best Intrests concerned. Maybe we need to take a realistic view of Iraq from a point that is in Iraq's Best Interests. We don't want to look at it because it is scary... for us.
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Think about it. Iraq is 60% Shi'ite. The Omam Ali Mosque in Najaf, Iraq is the holiest shrine in the Shi'ia religious sect. Shi'ites must make at least one pilgrimage to this shine in their lifetime to fulfill one of their tennents.
Iran is a majority of Shi'ites. Under Hussein's rule, Iranian immigration and their pilgirmage was limited to 300 per year. No more Hussein, no more restrictions. The population of Iraq is more than likely to increase the Shi'ia Majority beyond the 60%.
Shi'ites are a minority in the Middle East Region. It is in the Shi'ite's best interests to form a bloc within the region. This points towards an Iranian/Iraqi Shi'ite bloc. From this alliance, the Shi'ites can form a powerful force.. one that is rich with oil reserves and possesses nuclear capabilities.
And remember what the Shi'ites have brought us in the past... the Fundamentalist Revolution of Ayatollah Khomeini... his spawn, Muqtada Al Sadr... Hezbollah... Islamic Jihad. We are the foriegners over there.
We gave them the Democratic tools to elect who they want... not who WE want. They chose an Shi'ite leadership. File that under the heading, "No Shit, Shithead Bush". We are trying to force them to recognize the Sunnis in Iraq. Is that of their choosing or ours? How can we claim it as a Democracy, when we're the ones telling them how to run their country? Is that Democracy?
We are trying to solve a political problem with military force. The only way we can succeed using that method is to oppress them and force them to be more like us. Is that what Joe Iraqi wants... or is that what Joe American wants? This was always a complicated problem that an idiot with a gun could never solve. You can chnge the leadership of another country, but you can't change their culture. That sort of change HAS TO COME FROM WITHIN. Do the Shi'ites want to change? I don't know... do you?
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Yeah... it's ugly... but, we knew that going in... or, at least, we SHOULD have known that.
It's not what I want... but, I can see it as a possible outcome of our actions. The great irony here is this... It was the Great Satan himself (America) that fulfilled Ayatollah Khomeini's vision. In their eyes, Allah has fooled Satan, thus proving to them that Allah is, indeed, Great.
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What do I think we should do?
Pull back into Afghanistan and get that country up an running at 100% and try to contain the ever spreading tire fire that is Iraq from there.
But, for the real solution... you need to ask the assholes who created this clusterfuck. My guess their answer will be, "Stay the Course".
Hail, Hail!!!
I like the talk of withdrawl as if the people forget the fortress in the guise as an embassy that is being built there. Like they won't need miles of protection for that.
who is we? you mean Iraqis? they are the ones doing the killing. or your friends the "freedom fighters" from other countries. you think they are fighting for Iraq?
Well, you know what they say, you can dip "Shi'ite" in gold, its still Shi'ite underneath.
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