Would you die happy?

Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
I'm pondering on Leona Helmsley, leaving her dog $12 mil, and stating in her will that when the dog dies, its remains should rest in peace in her mausoleum with her.

Yet, today, we find out that the dog's remains cannot go to the mausoleum by state law.

Didn't Leona research this? With all her money, with all her lawyers, didn't she know that the only way her remains can stay with her dog's remains is for her to be buried in a pet cemetery?

When my 46 year old sister recently suffered a mild heart attack, the rest of my family worried about wills and settlements. My oldest sister warned me that I should put my car and the lease on my apartment in my boyfriend's name - jointly - so that in case I die he will be able to keep my car and apartment. And I thought: Wow, how true! And I thought: Wow, why didn't I think of that before?

I'm only 42, but it's time to make a will, I fear. After all, I smoke a pack a day. I drink beer. I could have a heart attack tomorrow!

What should I leave to my nieces and nephews? What should I leave to my six sisters? Should I leave anything at all to my mother? What about the charities that I care about? What about the future of my country? Should I leave all my money to the Democratic party so that they can beat the nasty and homophobic Republicans? Should I leave all my money to Brangelina so they can give it to their causes that make so much more publicity than my own?

Will I die happy knowing that my one sister won't get the Hummel figurines I plan to give to my other sister instead? Will I die happy knowing that my rings and necklaces will be given to charity and not worn by my hated cousin? Will I die happy leaving half of my 401K to the care and upkeep of my two cats?

Will I die happy knowing that I tied up all my loose ends?

Does anyone die happy? Does anyone know what happens after they die?

Does any of this matter?!

Ask Leona.
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  • Well, I've managed to avoid it a couple of times so far, and both times, I would have been happy! I've done a lot in my life and there's nothing I really feel like I NEED to do.
    My will leaves all my crap to a bunch of people. haha,,, although, everybody gets a guitar unless I sell all those suckers.
    Most of the rest goes to some charities, and various kids I know. I don't have any kids, but there a bunch that I love. I figure that's where the future is, kids.
    Of course, I've been on a roll lately. I might outlast them! :D

    Maybe they'll be leaving ME stuff! :)

    When I was in my struggle a few years ago, dying happy didn't entail having the loose ends tied up. It was more, "Am I happy with what I did in my life?" And that I was. I was also happy that I had, and have, good family, and so many friends collected over the years. Now I guess I still am happy and there's more to go.
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  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    I will die happy. I truly have done everything I have wanted to do, not to say I don't want to do more!!! Our wills are in place and everyone I love knows it and I have no regrets. I am happy with my life so what ever happens happens. :)
    "I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
  • Bu2 wrote:
    I'm pondering on Leona Helmsley, leaving her dog $12 mil, and stating in her will that when the dog dies, its remains should rest in peace in her mausoleum with her.

    Yet, today, we find out that the dog's remains cannot go to the mausoleum by state law.

    Didn't Leona research this? With all her money, with all her lawyers, didn't she know that the only way her remains can stay with her dog's remains is for her to be buried in a pet cemetery?

    When my 46 year old sister recently suffered a mild heart attack, the rest of my family worried about wills and settlements. My oldest sister warned me that I should put my car and the lease on my apartment in my boyfriend's name - jointly - so that in case I die he will be able to keep my car and apartment. And I thought: Wow, how true! And I thought: Wow, why didn't I think of that before?

    I'm only 42, but it's time to make a will, I fear. After all, I smoke a pack a day. I drink beer. I could have a heart attack tomorrow!

    What should I leave to my nieces and nephews? What should I leave to my six sisters? Should I leave anything at all to my mother? What about the charities that I care about? What about the future of my country? Should I leave all my money to the Democratic party so that they can beat the nasty and homophobic Republicans? Should I leave all my money to Brangelina so they can give it to their causes that make so much more publicity than my own?

    Will I die happy knowing that my one sister won't get the Hummel figurines I plan to give to my other sister instead? Will I die happy knowing that my rings and necklaces will be given to charity and not worn by my hated cousin? Will I die happy leaving half of my 401K to the care and upkeep of my two cats?

    Will I die happy knowing that I tied up all my loose ends?

    Does anyone die happy? Does anyone know what happens after they die?

    Does any of this matter?!

    Ask Leona.

    Bu...I not going to get on you all that much...but not exercising is about like smoking a pack a day on longevity.

    So you can do the math, (x2) but for god sake quit the smoking. Why do you do that? Lung cancer is fucking terrible....seriouslyt...it's beyone what you can comprehend. A lifetime of suffering packed into a year of misery. Smoking is the ticket for that particular ride.

    Anyhow...on topic....I think Leona was a miserable person driven by a personal hell that consumed her in a sick demented way and she never really found a sense true happiness.

    It's written all over her face...

    Hey legacy remains as proof. Queen of mean....the worst of the worst....just ugly from the inside out...
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Bu...I not going to get on you all that much...but not exercising is about like smoking a pack a day on longevity.

    So you can do the math, (x2) but for god sake quit the smoking. Why do you do that? Lung cancer is fucking terrible....seriouslyt...it's beyone what you can comprehend. A lifetime of suffering packed into a year of misery. Smoking is the ticket for that particular ride.

    Anyhow...on topic....I think Leona was a miserable person driven by a personal hell that consumed her in a sick demented way and she never really found a sense true happiness.

    It's written all over her face...

    Hey legacy remains as proof. Queen of mean....the worst of the worst....just ugly from the inside out...

    What's worse being wealthly and at the same time being while she was alive. That just plain sucks, like sucking on a cigerette.

    Peace
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    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    my original post.

    Actually, I fear that my original post didn't quite get my thoughts across.

    What I was trying to say was: Does it matter if I leave my money to the Democrats, or to the Republican party, when I die?

    Does it matter what I leave to ANYONE, when I die?

    I'll tell you the truth. I would like a Viking Funeral when I finally die. I would like to go out to sea in a burning boat. Just like my father wanted.

    But when my father died, we couldn't do that for him....it was against the law. And when I go, it will be the same.

    What I was trying to say is: Does it matter what we gain here on earth? Does it matter what we leave behind?

    If we go through our days and nights truly helping others, doing good things, shouldn't the good will and the good things we do be enough?

    Leona doesn't have that comfort. But....we are not Leona.

    Are we?

    That's what I meant.
    Feels Good Inc.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Bu2 wrote:
    my original post.

    Actually, I fear that my original post didn't quite get my thoughts across.

    What I was trying to say was: Does it matter if I leave my money to the Democrats, or to the Republican party, when I die?

    Does it matter what I leave to ANYONE, when I die?

    I'll tell you the truth. I would like a Viking Funeral when I finally die. I would like to go out to sea in a burning boat. Just like my father wanted.

    But when my father died, we couldn't do that for him....it was against the law. And when I go, it will be the same.

    What I was trying to say is: Does it matter what we gain here on earth? Does it matter what we leave behind?

    If we go through our days and nights truly helping others, doing good things, shouldn't the good will and the good things we do be enough?

    Leona doesn't have that comfort. But....we are not Leona.

    Are we?

    That's what I meant.

    It's time for bed but I see what your getting at. For some it's all so critical what they leave behind and even what control they have over things even in death. It borders on obsession with the ultra wealthy to whom I work for a near half a billionaire. All he talks about is what he'll leave behind and how much he'll leave for his children and that they'll be fucking happy.

    I dislike saying this but happy my ass, those kids couldn't give a shit. All they care about is how much they're going to get but more importantly WHEN they'll get their share. It sickens me and his children aren't hurting in no way, I mean how much money does one really need? However when yo are brought up in that lifestyle you come to expect nothing less, it's all about greed to me.

    I've seen one family I'm familiar with set things so that after his death his widowed (wife) couldn't have a boyfriend much less marry. If she did or was suspected of such she would be cut off immediately by his just as greedy daughter. She lived a prisoned life in a sense just to keep the riches she enjoyed while he was alive. I sure as hell couldn't live like that, no dead person will do that to me much less a live one.

    I'm single parent raising my daughter and all that I have will be left to my daughter with my sister as executor to my so called estate. At least till I marry, if ever.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Sure it matters.....


    to those left behind. So you need to decide how you want to be remembered.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • in the end....in reality, to me...if i am dead...what does it matter? it's only while alive that we think or worry of such things. basically, i am unconcerned. while yes, there are certain things of mine that i think i would like certain people to have....especially my artwork/photography...i also think, especially being childless, i really don't care. if my husband outlives me, i leave EVERYthing to him, he is my one beneficiary and everything else will be up to him. he knows how i feel, etc.....so why bother with it? now if i outlive him...does leave food for thought, especially since we are both the youngest of our families. someday i guess perhaps we should draw up wills with such specific information, designate vatrious charities for our money, etc. one of these days i think we'll get around to it...but right now..it simply isn't important to me/us. and as i've said, in the 'reality' of it....if i am dead, i am dead...so i won't really be *caring* if my nephews get all my money...if the neighbors pilpher in my home...whatever...i just won't *be* anymore to be caring of such things......


    altho i do admit one of my 'big fears' in this world is outliving my husband and growing old all alone...living alone...and then dying in my home and one of my dogs eats my face off b/c no one knows i am dead and they are hungry. :p yikes! :eek: again, in reality...i won't *care* since i'll already be dead....but as i am alive right now, that thought sickens me, and i am big about respect for the remains of the dead...and i'd not like to be some sensational/creepy news story...or pics of such...or just have my body multilated in such a manner. so yea...i hope that doesn't happen, but hell yea...i'll still have dogs. :D
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


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  • justamjustam Posts: 21,412
    The only time I really think about my mortality is when I'm hurtling down the freeway on snowy nights and I think about the semi-trucks that could kill me. :p

    At those moments, the only thing I worry about is leaving my sons without a mother before they are grown.

    I think if I boil my whole life down--leaving out my own wishes to do things and wishes to love and wishes to live--that is probably the only essential thing I am responsible for.

    So, considering my youngest child is ten now...I just have to manage to stay alive another ten years or so. ;):D
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  • geniegenie Posts: 2,222
    just relax and take each day as it comes. For me death is an ultimate freedom.
  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    I'll die happy because I live happy.

    As far as leaving my possessions my son gets enough to get him through school and our home and the rest to charity. Once he's done school he'll probably just get whatever home I live in and that's it. Others need the money more than he will.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
    ~ Bob Marley
  • Bu2 wrote:
    I'm pondering on Leona Helmsley, leaving her dog $12 mil, and stating in her will that when the dog dies, its remains should rest in peace in her mausoleum with her.

    Yet, today, we find out that the dog's remains cannot go to the mausoleum by state law.

    Didn't Leona research this? With all her money, with all her lawyers, didn't she know that the only way her remains can stay with her dog's remains is for her to be buried in a pet cemetery?

    When my 46 year old sister recently suffered a mild heart attack, the rest of my family worried about wills and settlements. My oldest sister warned me that I should put my car and the lease on my apartment in my boyfriend's name - jointly - so that in case I die he will be able to keep my car and apartment. And I thought: Wow, how true! And I thought: Wow, why didn't I think of that before?

    I'm only 42, but it's time to make a will, I fear. After all, I smoke a pack a day. I drink beer. I could have a heart attack tomorrow!

    What should I leave to my nieces and nephews? What should I leave to my six sisters? Should I leave anything at all to my mother? What about the charities that I care about? What about the future of my country? Should I leave all my money to the Democratic party so that they can beat the nasty and homophobic Republicans? Should I leave all my money to Brangelina so they can give it to their causes that make so much more publicity than my own?

    Will I die happy knowing that my one sister won't get the Hummel figurines I plan to give to my other sister instead? Will I die happy knowing that my rings and necklaces will be given to charity and not worn by my hated cousin? Will I die happy leaving half of my 401K to the care and upkeep of my two cats?

    Will I die happy knowing that I tied up all my loose ends?

    Does anyone die happy? Does anyone know what happens after they die?

    Does any of this matter?!

    Ask Leona.

    i'm dying from internal bleeding so maybe i have a different perspective for you.
    first; my dad. i have a few evil sisters and he is getting his revenge in his will. until i was diagnosed; everything was willed to me. when they act up he takes comfort in knowing that he will get his "pound of flesh".

    until last thursday; i willed everything to my daughter who will distribute to the others based on their loyalty to me. one son will get only $50.00. i had to argue that point with her because she didn't think it was fair. she thought 5% would be better but he'd be set with that amount and i don't want to reward bad behavior.

    last wednesday things changed. after a month of great conversations on the board someone returned to the board and an interesting thread turned into pages of 3 people having a conversation amongst themselves bashing me. i refuse to argue with plant-life so i left. that night i realized that this board is what the us would be without the second amendment. you're not allowed to defend yourself; yet there's really no one that will step in and disipline this breach of the rules. so i decided to leave a substancial amount that will be donated to the SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION on behalf of the pearl jam message board.

    the point here is that making your will will give you peace of mind and if you have any axes to grind; you can do it even after death.

    as far as what happens; i've been confirmed legally brain dead twice. once from electricution; and once from a brain aneurysm that burst. both experiences were great. what you call death; i call birth into the next "phase" of life. during the brain surgery; i was dead for 20 minutes. when i came out of the coma i had a new respect for both life and death. i consider earth to be both hell and heaven; and the next step is what you expect. if you expect nothing; you'll have what i call solitary confinement. your being; mind; soul; or whatever you call it; will be in darkness until you're born again. at that time you're born again as a human and given another chance to live a good life. keep in mind that this is just my opinion based on life experiences. but i have no fear of death. i welcome it. i'm here now because my entire community has been donating blood; but i'm ready at any time.

    i believe people do die happy once they remove the fear of death. i also believe people live a fuller and happier life when they stop fearing death. i've done things i never would've done if i was afraid to die. my advice is live every day as if it were your last. i think the worst thing that can happen would be to die; knowing you wasted your life because you feared death.
  • Juberoo wrote:
    Sure it matters.....


    to those left behind. So you need to decide how you want to be remembered.

    i agree; but i think you're remembered as you lived.
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    so i decided to leave a substancial amount that will be donated to the SECOND AMENDMENT FOUNDATION on behalf of the pearl jam message board.

    :D

    I guess my money (the little I have) would go to my brother and parents. Some of my stuff will go to my best friends. I don't have a will or something, it's an agreement.

    But ultimately, I believe that when I die, I'm dead and that's it. There's no more. So it wouldn't really matter.
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  • No, I wouldn't die happy at this point... not for anything I have done wrong in life or things that I never got to do, but my first child is due in January, and the thought of dying before I got to see or spend any time with him is too hard to deal with.

    And the thought of my wife having to go through losing me is rough too.


    Financially - I don't/probably won't have much, but all of that would go to my wife.
    My whole life
    was like a picture
    of a sunny day
    “We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
    ― Abraham Lincoln
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