I want the weed you're all smoking.
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Because all I'm getting lately is seeds and stems. So maybe that's why I can't understand the preoccupation with theology and atheism and destiny and other very intelligent conversations that I might otherwise enjoy if our country wasn't GOING DOWN THE FUCKING TUBES.
If anyone here has learned the email and snail mail addresses of their state's representatives and has written emails and snail mail to those representatives about topics like the "war" in Iraq and about stem cell research and other important issues that are affecting us and our future, please feel free to PM me about how much more you are doing to make this a better country. I will, in turn, write you back to thank you, and talk more about how easy it is to organize in your own city and maybe then we can perhaps come up with ways to END THIS ENDLESS WAR and move on to other great topics like education and taxes and things that matter.
If anyone here just wants to sit back on their ass and let others make important decisions for them, then send me your goddamned weed so I can calm down a little.
Thank you.
If anyone here has learned the email and snail mail addresses of their state's representatives and has written emails and snail mail to those representatives about topics like the "war" in Iraq and about stem cell research and other important issues that are affecting us and our future, please feel free to PM me about how much more you are doing to make this a better country. I will, in turn, write you back to thank you, and talk more about how easy it is to organize in your own city and maybe then we can perhaps come up with ways to END THIS ENDLESS WAR and move on to other great topics like education and taxes and things that matter.
If anyone here just wants to sit back on their ass and let others make important decisions for them, then send me your goddamned weed so I can calm down a little.
Thank you.
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Sammi: Wanna just break up?
We sit here in this Pit every day, every weekend, and we take the time to write each other back and forth about important topics and we back each other (and argue with each other) and we matter to each other.
Why can't we take this and move it beyond the Pit? Log in to other websites, political ones, and have conversations and form meetups with other people who we can -- together -- make a difference with?
Giuliani says repeal of abortion law would be "OK" 53 minutes ago
To Sam Brownback (news, bio, voting record), it would be "a glorious day," and to Tom Tancredo the "greatest day in this country's history." For Rudolph Giuliani, repeal of the Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion "would be OK."
Republican presidential hopefuls, at their first debate on Thursday, were asked if repeal of the Roe v. Wade decision would be a good day for America.
"It would be OK to repeal," said Giuliani, New York's former mayor, contending with his record of support for abortion rights as he courts conservative Republicans.
"I think the court has to make that decision and then the country can deal with it. We're a federalist system of government and states can make their own decisions," said Giuliani, who leads Republicans in the polls.
Giuliani, a Roman Catholic, maintains he personally thinks abortion is wrong but believes it is ultimately a woman's choice, a position that goes against the grain of the social conservatives who carry big clout in the Republican primaries.
His lawyerly response contrasted sharply with some other candidates who jumped at the chance to burnish their anti-abortion credentials.
"After 40 million dead because we have aborted them in this country, I would say that that would be the greatest day in this country's history when that, in fact, is overturned," said Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado.
"It would be a glorious day of human liberty and freedom," said Sen. Sam Brownback of Kansas.
Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney seized the chance to explain his changed position on abortion.
"Well, I've always been personally pro-life, but for me, it was a great question about whether or not government should intrude in that decision," Romney said.
He said he changed his position after the debate in his state over cloning. "It's a "brave new world" mentality that Roe v. Wade has given us, and I changed my mind," he said.
(Writing by Vicki Allen in Washington, editing by Peter Cooney; World Desk Americas)
Clinton targets Bush war powers by Stephen Collinson
Thu May 3, 6:27 PM ET
Senator Hillary Clinton Thursday spearheaded a new bid to strip President George W. Bush's powers to wage war in Iraq by October, two days after he vetoed a Democratic troop withdrawal timetable.
Clinton opened up a new front in the showdown between Congress and the White House for control of the unpopular war, as congressional leaders and Bush aides met for talks on finding a compromise over a mammoth Iraq war funding package.
"It is time to reverse the failed policies of President Bush and to end this war as soon as possible," said Clinton in a speech in the Senate.
The White House reacted furiously, accusing the New York senator of naming a "surrender" date in a politically motivated attempt to boost her 2008 presidential campaign.
Clinton, who has vowed to bring troops home if she makes it to the White House, joined veteran Democratic Senator Robert Byrd (news, bio, voting record) to frame legislation which would repeal Bush's authority to wage war on October 11 this year -- exactly five years after the Senate gave its original consent.
"I believe a full reconsideration of the terms and conditions of the authorization is overdue," Clinton said, two days after Bush wielded his veto against a war funding bill containing Democratic withdrawal timelines.
Bush was authorized by Congress to use military force against Iraq in October 2002, on the grounds that its alleged weapons of mass destruction were a security threat and that it thwarted United Nations weapons inspections.
White House deputy spokeswoman Dana Perino condemned Clinton's move.
"Here we go again. The Senate is trying another way to put a surrender date on the calendar. Welcome to politics '08-style," she said, warning the bill would send the wrong message to Iraqis trying to build their "young democracy."
"The president believes that telling the enemy when we're going to leave is reckless and nonsensical," Perino said.
Clinton voted to give Bush the authorization, and has since faced fierce pressure on the campaign trail to apologize for the decision.
She has declined, but said she takes responsibility for her vote, and would not have voted the same way, had she known then, what she knows now.
"It is time to sunset the authorization for the war in Iraq," Clinton said.
"If the president will not bring himself to accept reality, it is time for Congress to bring reality to him," she said.
Byrd said that a new authorization would force Bush to "be clear about what he now hopes to accomplish in Iraq."
The attempt is similar to a tactic mooted by another Democratic senator, Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record), earlier this year, which never came to a vote.
At that time, the White House argued US forces were in Iraq at the invitation of the government in Baghdad and authorized by the United Nations.
Earlier, Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (news, bio, voting record) and his Republican counterpart Mitch McConnell (news, bio, voting record) met White House chief of staff Joshua Bolten for 45 minutes, aiming to forge a compromise over a 124 billion dollar bill funding the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Reid said the talks took place in a "comfortable" atmosphere but there was no indication of any breakthroughs, and he refused to divulge details other than the scheduling of another meeting next week.
Democratic leaders appear close to dropping the timelines for now, to allow Bush to sign a bill and send funding to the 146,000 US troops in Iraq, before resuming battle with other defense spending bills due to be debated within a few months.
But Reid said "nothing" had been taken off the table.
House of Representatives Democratic leader Steny Hoyer (news, bio, voting record) said that as much as Democrats would like to compel a troop withdrawal, they had to recognize that only Bush, as commander in chief, had the power to order one.
"I don't think it is a question of backing down. It's a question of recognizing reality," Hoyer told CNN.
On the House side, Bolten met key Democratic representative David Obey (news, bio, voting record), and more talks are likely next week, Obey's spokeswoman said.
White House spokesman Tony Snow also declined to go into details, but said Bush wanted a deal forged as soon as possible.
"Everybody agreed to proceed not only in a spirit of getting something done, but also doing so in an attitude of mutual respect," Snow said.
Democrats are looking at the possibility of including binding benchmarks for political progress by Iraq's government in the new bill, which if not met could cost Baghdad millions of dollars in non-military aid.
sprinkled nicely of orange fuzz like hairs that scream very nicely when set a
flame.
grown among ferns and 500 yr old douglas firs, pacific red cedars.
or maybe in some fuckers lab dope hut.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Anyway, these questions about religion, destiny, volition, etc.. they are fundamental to why our society is gone to shit and it's not really gone to shit. I mean life has been way more fucked up in the past. Thankfully you can actually have a different point of view now without being murdered. But we are entering global society and we are mixing a lot of religions and stuff that people are having a hard time coping with. See this is the problem, we can't get along in this globalized society because we all have these mythical, intuitive ways of looking at reality. Really what we need is for everyone in the world to step back and say ok, let's come to an agreeance on what reality is. All these conflicts are caused by people with conflicting views. "In the name of God!" "In the name of imperialism!". This is my God is bigger than your God and media propaganda fucking bullshit. The masses are sitting at home being brainwashed by television. Their governments are out causing havoc and programming their people to think. Everyone needs to learn critical analysis. "Why is that true?" "Is it true for everyone?" I mean. It's just ridiculous. If a person hears something on T.V. they shouldn't believe it, but they will, because it doesn't go into memory tagged as a belief or what-not, it just pops into the mind when something triggers it and a person will say "oh yeah! I saw that on T.V." but was it really true? People need to corroborate their knowledge. One source is never enough for something to be an absolute truth.
It seems all wars are fought over religious indifferences. Even the same races of people think indifferently of those that follow different religious practices. How fucked up is that? How many Baptists can say they don't feel a little weird about Pentecosts even? like "Hmm definitely not for me....you must be weird or a little messed in the head" Any religious person on this board can't tell me they wouldn't feel a little spooked out going to a church of a different belief. Why is that?
I don't believe you would see that scenario take place in the scientific mindset. Has a war ever been fought between scientific beliefs? Like physicists shooting chemists? It's only when religion is introduced.
It's like all this talk about spirits, Jesus, God, Satan, and ghosts and superstitious beliefs are retarding global integration. They all seem to be intertwined with religion somewhat or the basis of.
I dunno...what the heck are we to do?
Back to the original post... I was thinking of this yesterday actually. There should be a sticky or a thread with all the contact info for all the govt offices for all States and Canada. It would make it easer no? Whaddaya think?
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Can you see me now
I am myself
Like you somehow
I'll ride the wave
Where it takes me
I'll hold the pain
Release me
I guess I ran a bit off point there but my point is that writing your elected representatives is a good idea but unless the letter/e-mail writing campaign is done in full force by tens of thousands of Americans across all states it will not change current policy.
Don't kid yourself. Hydro is the pits in my mind. Good old sess from the islands which has seeds in it is the way to go. Which plant should come without seeds? Too much tampering for me thanks. It's like eating GM crops.
Ahhhh......
Thank you, everybody!!! I feel better already.
*EDIT* Ahnimus, that was a great post. Thank you. Chad -- do you think you can Fed Ex me some???
I love the Fed Ex guy, because he's a drug dealer and doesn't even know it.
-Mitch Hedberg
*sniffs the neighbor's Fed Ex box*
Yea, you really need to campaign. I ended up in parliament one year talking to the entire Canadian government under Cretien. Unfortunately you don't actually get to see anyone except the press and you never get a response. Nothing changes.
eh, i cannot believe i am even saying this...but i miss the days of even more abortion threads! :eek: hahahaha. i come on the MT nowadays and i am amazed by the thread titles. perhaps we should have a religion and free-will forum and leave the train to NEWS....politics and current events. so much of what is here now truly is more in the realm of AET. and i do love AET btw, but yea.....oh well.
honestly, i have no desire to start smoking pot again, just makes me tired/hungry...:p
sure, the war is not the only *news* out there, and yes, everything doesn';t have to be so weighty/serious to be newsworthy or discussion-worthy, it just seems the trasin is truly skewed to a particular topic or at the very least, discussions seem to take the same slant over and over, so eh.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
Meh, the war and abortion threads run in the same circles, too. I, for one, gladly welcome this new turn the Train has taken. We are simply evolving to where we realize so many of our stances on political/social issues come from a much deeper place and there is an urgent need to try to better understand one another once it's clear we're so divided on these same old issues that have been discussed into the ground. We need to better understand humans if we are to really want to understand the actions and choices we are making and how they affect others.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Some people can do both; lack of free speech can start wars too.
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
hi mel I like the new convos..the back and forth, same old same old had ran it's course. But I do think we used to cut up more and have fun.
I'm doing pretty good...actually a lot better than before...in a much better place. So, Id say I'm shining pretty bright as I know you are, too.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
like the fact that the Mets suck ass? has that been beaten to death? if not, then it should
ps... metsy has all the good shit!
:D
i've only been here for a year but i too tire of the mt..........but i do enjoy the political stuff........between this place and the daily show i get enough news for my satisfaction and if something intrigues me, mr al gore* gave me a great tool to do research.....:)
* - yes i know it's not true but i just like joke.......:p
i'm trying to find the words......beautiful................thank you.........:)
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
"i might be going to hell in a bucket baby, but at least i'm having fun" ~~ favorite Dead song, ever
i am going to the roger waters show this summer, you going?
Sammi: Wanna just break up?