The Spin Should Stop Here

Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
edited April 2007 in A Moving Train
Yes, what Cho did was horrendous.

Yes, he obviously needed help and that need wasn't recognized competently enough, and the consequences were horrendous too.

Yes, the media was greedy enough to exploit the whole situation and that is horrendous too.

Yes, the President and hopeful Presidents are spinning this story as much as they can, each with their own twist, each with their own plan for a new law, and that is horrendous too.

Yes, the fact that Cho's family cannot even begin to understand yet explain how this happened, it is horrendous.

Yes, the fact that so many families are suffering right now, that is horrendous too.

So, while everyone is trying to recover from the horror, the spin should stop here.
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  • Just say No to Cho...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • not4unot4u Posts: 512
    let me throw in some more spin. There had to be someone else. Some thing just doesn't 'click' for me...I agree the spin should stop before the Final truth (or what they decide to tell us) is out. I feel we are somehow being manipulated here... i don't know - things just aren't making connections.
    rip all, except the shooter, which im sure is even more lost and hurting in (if there even is) a after life.
    "We are all, now, in a World, Of SHIt"
    Fucking fat cops taking alot of time to infiltrate, something is terribly out of place...
    Who taught that kid those military guns stances? to maximize his aim?
    The snpier case awhile back had someone teaching that kid, could there be something in this case parrallel to that?
    we don't want war, but we still want more?
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Bu2 wrote:
    Yes, what Cho did was horrendous.

    Yes, he obviously needed help and that need wasn't recognized competently enough, and the consequences were horrendous too.

    Yes, the media was greedy enough to exploit the whole situation and that is horrendous too.

    Yes, the President and hopeful Presidents are spinning this story as much as they can, each with their own twist, each with their own plan for a new law, and that is horrendous too.

    Yes, the fact that Cho's family cannot even begin to understand yet explain how this happened, it is horrendous.

    Yes, the fact that so many families are suffering right now, that is horrendous too.

    So, while everyone is trying to recover from the horror, the spin should stop here.

    much like osama obama (kennedy 2006) you used so many words to say nothing at all.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    much like osama obama (kennedy 2006) you used so many words to say nothing at all.

    Much like an unenlightened person, you chose to make this political.
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  • much like osama obama (kennedy 2006) you used so many words to say nothing at all.
    come on purple hawk at least he's got good intentions man... now kiss and hug. :D

    i agree though. yeah that kid was messed up in the head and we should leave it at that. i work in a hospital for chemical dependency patients and people with depression. a lot of people that go in go with anger problems and suicidal tendencies.. i think cho needed to go to the hospital where i work. he had some serious mental problems...
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  • Hey! "The Factor" is the no spin zone and don't u forget it!
    Confucious Says: He who buries a man's wife alive, should not expect to sit at that man's dinner table without the subject coming up.
  • Thats spin right there. We need to prevent this from happening in the future. Take a look at ourselves as a nation, as a society, where kids even get to that level of wanting to waste 32 people away in cold blood.

    In my mind the greatest tribute and honor we can give to the 32 dead in Virginia is this:

    To try our BEST to prevent this from happening again.

    To listen to our kids.

    To say we failed, that the perscription ritalin, the zero tolerance, the metal detectors at school, that isnt working, and we need to try something new.

    We need to stop allowing these things to happen.

    Thats the ultimate "no spin". Actually doing something.

    O reilly is a pompous jerk and could care less if anyone was shot. He will exploit his show and book and his ego, which deserves its own show as well.

    Spin in itself is such a stupid term.

    Instead of spin, lets try and stop kids from killing other kids. Theres a novel idea
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Thats spin right there. We need to prevent this from happening in the future. Take a look at ourselves as a nation, as a society, where kids even get to that level of wanting to waste 32 people away in cold blood.

    In my mind the greatest tribute and honor we can give to the 32 dead in Virginia is this:

    To try our BEST to prevent this from happening again.

    To listen to our kids.

    To say we failed, that the perscription ritalin, the zero tolerance, the metal detectors at school, that isnt working, and we need to try something new.

    We need to stop allowing these things to happen.

    Thats the ultimate "no spin". Actually doing something.

    Thank you.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    you can't stop crazy.

    crazy happens.
  • much like osama obama (kennedy 2006) you used so many words to say nothing at all.

    thanks for the trenchant and penetrating commentary.

    what did you mean by "kennedy 2006"? if you meant ted kennedy, he hasn't ran for president in over 20 years, so that doesn't make any sense. i'm not sure what 2006 meant, since obama didn't run for anything in 2006, but if you meant jack or bobby, then thanks for the comparison.
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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    brain of c wrote:
    you can't stop crazy.

    crazy happens.

    But the media doesn't have to make it crazier.
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  • drew2420drew2420 Posts: 61
    “You eat meat and you kill things that are better than you are, and then you say how bad, and even killers, your children are. You made your children what they are....these children that come at you with knives, they are your children. You taught them. I didn't teach them. I just tried to help them stand up.” -Charles Manson
  • I love the Manson quote. one of my favorites by him.

    People on this board often act like I think manson is god or that I think he is a great human being. Quite the opposite is true. I dont have pictures of manson on my wall, its filled with pictures of activists and people like Lennon or Dylan or Neil Young etc...

    Anyways manson is spot on in this quote, and its one of my favorite to bring up.
    Essentially when I speak in other threads about how school shooting arent necessarily the work of one nutcase who snapped, but are more our society and cultures tacit acceptance and glorification of it, that quote is essentially what I am saying.

    Its interesting too because it shows the inner workings of manson and that although what he did was wrong and he deserved to e punished, he certainly isnt stupid and void of insight.

    A guy who inspires the Beach Boys, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Devendra Banhart and countless others cant be ALL bad, just partly bad. And his bad side shouldnt be overlooked.

    That said, we as a society create what goes on. If we had peace and love and hippies running things I doubt people would be killing 32 kids.

    Essentially what I am arguing is its wrong of everyone to blame this on one party or one politician or whatever. This killing was the result of the entire system of things.
  • drew2420drew2420 Posts: 61
    I love the Manson quote. one of my favorites by him.

    People on this board often act like I think manson is god or that I think he is a great human being. Quite the opposite is true. I dont have pictures of manson on my wall, its filled with pictures of activists and people like Lennon or Dylan or Neil Young etc...

    Anyways manson is spot on in this quote, and its one of my favorite to bring up.
    Essentially when I speak in other threads about how school shooting arent necessarily the work of one nutcase who snapped, but are more our society and cultures tacit acceptance and glorification of it, that quote is essentially what I am saying.

    Its interesting too because it shows the inner workings of manson and that although what he did was wrong and he deserved to e punished, he certainly isnt stupid and void of insight.

    A guy who inspires the Beach Boys, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Devendra Banhart and countless others cant be ALL bad, just partly bad. And his bad side shouldnt be overlooked.

    That said, we as a society create what goes on. If we had peace and love and hippies running things I doubt people would be killing 32 kids.

    Essentially what I am arguing is its wrong of everyone to blame this on one party or one politician or whatever. This killing was the result of the entire system of things.


    Well said
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