Election 2008, First Quarter Earnings

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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    zstillings wrote:
    Without the money raised, they could not have a legitimate staff in each state, could not utilize direct mail, television, internet or phones to get their message out. They could not travel to see constituents, take out advertisements for town hall style events, hold rallies, hire security, etc... Everything in a campaign costs money. There are many limits on in-kind contributions since you cannot hold an event at a venue without paying full price rent on it since you may be taking a corporate donation. You must pay full price for staff travel and for personal travel. This money may sound bad but, in reality, it is the system that campaign finance reform has created.


    There is nothing wrong with raising money for your campaign. I just find it sad that good candidates are more often than not unable to win because they can't raise the type of money that people like Hillary or Obama raise. It just seems that the person with the biggest purse ends up winning the election and more times than not that person is not the best person for the job.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    $25 million for Obama--not too bad.

    Watch out Hillary.
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    mammasan wrote:
    There is nothing wrong with raising money for your campaign. I just find it sad that good candidates are more often than not unable to win because they can't raise the type of money that people like Hillary or Obama raise. It just seems that the person with the biggest purse ends up winning the election and more times than not that person is not the best person for the job.

    i'm happy for once because i think obama is a good candidate and he raised money to do the types of things that zstillings mentioned in his post. but i also think that the amount of donors is fantastic because it shows that more people are interested enough to donate (some donating $5 but that's what they can do, you know). i love seeing tens of thousands of people excited about a candidate. it's a nice change.

    milhouse where did you get 83,000? i just got an email from barack telling me 100,000 i think. maybe i need to re-read it.
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  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    VictoryGin wrote:
    milhouse where did you get 83,000? i just got an email from barack telling me 100,000 i think. maybe i need to re-read it.
    Not to speak for Milhouse, but I believe the 83,000 was the estimate from over the weekend. I haven't heard about the "100,000" number, but now that the numbers are counted, I can't say I'm surprised.
  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    RainDog wrote:
    Not to speak for Milhouse, but I believe the 83,000 was the estimate from over the weekend. I haven't heard about the "100,000" number, but now that the numbers are counted, I can't say I'm surprised.

    sweet. i guess it is over 100,000:

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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Just a quick poll:

    How many here would possibly vote for a candidate that toured the country on a battery-powered moped?
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    gue_barium wrote:
    Just a quick poll:

    How many here would possibly vote for a candidate that toured the country on a battery-powered moped?

    GOB Bluth?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    ledvedderman wrote:
    GOB Bluth?

    Either that's a brand-name of a Moped, or you're drunk.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    VictoryGin wrote:
    milhouse where did you get 83,000? i just got an email from barack telling me 100,000 i think. maybe i need to re-read it.

    you're right. the 83,000 was as of sunday or monday night. i just read the email, too.

    you're right, it's great to see large numbers of people get excited about a candidate. the diversity of obama supporters is nice to see, too. the event i went to on saturday was attended by a libertarian, an independent, a registered republican, a grad student, a couple of retirees, a guy who served in iraq, a black woman, a lawyer who specializes in representing people with disabilities, and some asian guy.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    you're right. the 83,000 was as of sunday or monday night. i just read the email, too.

    you're right, it's great to see large numbers of people get excited about a candidate. the diversity of obama supporters is nice to see, too. the event i went to on saturday was attended by a libertarian, an independent, a registered republican, a grad student, a couple of retirees, a guy who served in iraq, a black woman, a lawyer who specializes in representing people with disabilities, and some asian guy.

    That's a really small event.
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    zstillings wrote:
    That's a really small event.

    must you piss on my parade? i live in a very red portion of a blue state. there was another event in springfield that was much bigger, but i chose to attend the smaller one. our group was only 14 people.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    must you piss on my parade? i live in a very red portion of a blue state. there was another event in springfield that was much bigger, but i chose to attend the smaller one. our group was only 14 people.
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  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    surferdude wrote:
    Don't be shy to just call it what it was, an AA meeting. That's nothing to be ashamed of.

    hey, you made a funny. that's neat.

    also:

    obama recieved donations from 100,000 individuals. this total is greater the the number of hillary donors(50,000) and edwards donors(40,000) combined.

    holla.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    hey, you made a funny. that's neat.

    also:

    obama recieved donations from 100,000 individuals. this total is greater the the number of hillary donors(50,000) and edwards donors(40,000) combined.

    holla.

    Hopefully all 100,000 give more money than they already have.

    A big plus for Obama right now too is that a great deal of Hillary's money may be fully reserved for the general.
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    zstillings wrote:
    Hopefully all 100,000 give more money than they already have.

    A big plus for Obama right now too is that a great deal of Hillary's money may be fully reserved for the general.

    the average donation for hillary was $520, the average obama donation was $250. one way to read this stat is to predict that lots of obama donors aren't maxed out yet, which makes them more likely to donate again.

    yeah, he actually outraised her in terms of primary money. he's reporting 23.5, she's saying 20 for herself. he also beat her in online fundraising by a couple of million dollars.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    the average donation for hillary was $520, the average obama donation was $250. one way to read this stat is to predict that lots of obama donors aren't maxed out yet, which makes them more likely to donate again.

    yeah, he actually outraised her in terms of primary money. he's reporting 23.5, she's saying 20 for herself. he also beat her in online fundraising by a couple of million dollars.

    There's no question that he and Romney were the big winners in the fundraising race so far. McCain and Brownback really lost out and Edwards could have some trouble if he doesn't pick it up.
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    zstillings wrote:
    There's no question that he and Romney were the big winners in the fundraising race so far. McCain and Brownback really lost out and Edwards could have some trouble if he doesn't pick it up.

    no kidding. what the fuck happened to senator straight talk? he's doing the thing where he gives his top fundraisers gang names, too. maybe he thought mccain-feingold was a multiethnic law firm when he signed onto it. now he's said that he's going to formally "relaunch" his campaign. he must be shitting his depends. that little stroll through bagdhad looked a bit silly, too. i'd feel pretty safe if i went to get my morning coffee surrounded by 100 marines with a couple of apache helicopters.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    no kidding. what the fuck happened to senator straight talk? he's doing the thing where he gives his top fundraisers gang names, too. maybe he thought mccain-feingold was a multiethnic law firm when he signed onto it. now he's said that he's going to formally "relaunch" his campaign. he must be shitting his depends. that little stroll through bagdhad looked a bit silly, too. i'd feel pretty safe if i went to get my morning coffee surrounded by 100 marines with a couple of apache helicopters.

    His campaign seemed to be finished in 2001. McCain-Feingold was definitely a good start for him to make sure that all of his supporters couldn't support him so well anymore.
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    zstillings wrote:
    His campaign seemed to be finished in 2001. McCain-Feingold was definitely a good start for him to make sure that all of his supporters couldn't support him so well anymore.

    maybe he should look to expand his donor base.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Milhouse VanHouten wrote:
    maybe he should look to expand his donor base.

    He could go to some less conservative donors.

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