This just in:

Bu2

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq;_ylt=Ah.9F8zMo6MV64g5V7KFZUjMWM0F

So I can keep my faith in Obama.....he voted against. What will be the next step?

gue_barium

Bu2 wrote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq;_ylt=Ah.9F8zMo6MV64g5V7KFZUjMWM0F

So I can keep my faith in Obama.....he voted against. What will be the next step?

I offer this line, for his next soul-stirring inspirational speech:

"Humanity is the life blood of our Species."

Bu2

gue_barium wrote:

I offer this line, for his next soul-stirring inspirational speech:

"Humanity is the life blood of our Species."

That humanity's heart keep beating.

Bu2

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070525/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_iraq_2

And may I add, even though I don't like Hillary Clinton.....one of the headlines on Yahoo just now said: Democratic Congress Sides With Bush (or some such thing) and they show a picture of Hillary in front of microphones.

Meanwhile, in real life, Hillary (like Obama) voted against the bill tonight.

Bu2

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rj-eskow/the-journalistic-outrage-_b_49301.html

This link also provides a very well-stated synopsis of Monica Goodling's testimony.

gue_barium

So, we had the commander-in-chief by the short and curlys and Murtha decided to cave under...fuck.


Reflecting unhappiness among conservatives in his own party, Bush said he would have preferred less domestic spending than the bill contained. ``But, still, by voting for this bill members of both parties can show our troops and the Iraqis and the enemy that our country will support our servicemen and women in harm's way,'' he said at a Rose Garden news conference.

One of the most vocal war critics in Congress readily agreed. ``This is not a game. They run out of money next week,'' said Rep. John Murtha of Pennsylvania, whose speech opposing Bush's Iraq policy more than a year ago was a turning point in the debate.

cincybearcat

Isn't is painfully obvious that Obama and CLinton and Dodd all voted against the bill strictly for political purposes? If there was any chance that the bill was NOT going to pass, they would have voted for it.

It was a smart move (1st time in a long time) by the Democratic Party. Most vote for it and speak how they can't take $ away from the troups that need it....thi sallows others who happen to be runnig for president to vote against it without any actual threat to the troups not receiving their funding.

RainDog

cincybearcat wrote:

Isn't is painfully obvious that Obama and CLinton and Dodd all voted against the bill strictly for political purposes? If there was any chance that the bill was NOT going to pass, they would have voted for it.

Clinton, maybe. Obama and (I think) Dodd have been pretty consistantly against the war.

I'm not saying you're incorrect - and I'm a big fan of cynicism - but the obviousness of it is less than painful, so to speak.

cincybearcat

RainDog wrote:

Clinton, maybe. Obama and (I think) Dodd have been pretty consistantly against the war.

I'm not saying you're incorrect - and I'm a big fan of cynicism - but the obviousness of it is less than painful, so to speak.

And don't take this the wrong way. I am complimenting the Dems on their handling of this issue. It certainly isn't marking a line in the sand the way they could have, but it sets the party up for the future.

They lost the battle (on the surface), but it was a genius political move.

RainDog

cincybearcat wrote:

And don't take this the wrong way. I am complimenting the Dems on their handling of this issue. It certainly isn't marking a line in the sand the way they could have, but it sets the party up for the future.

They lost the battle (on the surface), but it was a genius political move.

Oh, I'm sure it will work out for them in the long run. This spending only lasts until the end of September, if I'm not mistaken, and that's over a year before the next election - year and a half if you're counting from now. Still, though, it's a disappointment. I'd like to see us start pulling out now, to hell with the political ramifications. Ah, well.

I mentioned this in another thread, but the only politician in my state that I'm in agreement with on this is William Jefferson. Yes, that William Jefferson.