Warning: Don't Grow a Beard in NYC!!

Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
edited August 2007 in A Moving Train
And don't hang out in bookstores or butcher shops, either:

http://www.wnbc.com/news/13896883/detail.html?dl=mainclick


NYPD Report Warns Of Mounting Homegrown Terror Threat

POSTED: 8:42 am EDT August 15, 2007
UPDATED: 7:41 pm EDT August 15, 2007


NEW YORK -- They preferred bookstores or hookah bars to mosques. They stopped listening to pop music and instead surfed Web sites promoting radical Islam. They threw away their baseball caps and grew beards.

New York Police Department intelligence analysts have concluded those were some of the telltale signs of homegrown terrorists in the making -- a mounting threat as grave as that from established terror groups like al-Qaida.

Video: Report: Growing Number Of Potential Homegrown Terrorists

An NYPD report released Wednesday warns of a "radicalization" process in which young men -- otherwise unremarkable legal immigrants from the Middle East -- grow disillusioned with life in America and adopt a philosophy that puts them on the path to jihad.

"Hopefully, the better we're informed about this process, the more likely we'll be to detect and disrupt it," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said while presenting the findings at a briefing of private security executives at police headquarters.

The findings drew swift criticism from an Arab anti-discrimination group, which accused the NYPD of stereotyping and of contradicting recent federal warnings that the chief terror threat remains foreign.

In a statement, Department of Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said federal authorities "appreciate efforts to better understand the phenomenon of radicalization."

"We are fortunate that radicalization seems to have less appeal in the U.S. than in other parts of the world," he said, "but we do not believe that America is immune to homegrown terrorism."

The FBI declined to comment.

Police officials said the study is based on an analysis of a series of domestic plots thwarted since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, including those in Lackawanna; Portland, Ore.; and Virginia. It was prepared by senior analysts with the NYPD Intelligence Division who traveled to Hamburg, Madrid and other overseas spots to confer with authorities about similar cases.

The report found homegrown terrorists often were indoctrinated in local "radicalization incubators" that are "rife with extremist rhetoric."

Instead of mosques, those places were more likely to be "cafes, cab driver hangouts, flop houses, prisons, student associations, non-governmental organizations, hookah bars, butcher shops and bookstores," the report says.

The Internet also provides "the wandering mind of the conflicted young Muslim or potential convert with direct access to unfiltered radical and extremist ideology."

The report warns that potential terrorists are difficult for law enforcement to detect because they blend in well with society. It also argues that more intelligence gathering is needed to thwart potential terror plots at their earliest stages.

Potential homegrown terrorists "are not on the law enforcement radar," the study says. "Most have never been arrested or involved in any kind of legal trouble."

They "look, act, talk and walk like everyone around them," the study adds. "In the early stages of their radicalization, these individuals rarely travel, are not participating in any kind of militant activity, yet they are slowly building the mind-set, intention and commitment to conduct jihad."

Kareem Shora, legal adviser for the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, called the findings faulty and inflammatory.

"The report is at odds with federal law enforcement findings, including those of the recently released National Intelligence Estimate, and uses unfortunate stereotyping of entire communities," Shora said in a statement. "The use of such language by the NYPD is un-American and goes against everything for which we stand."

The National Intelligence Estimate concluded that Osama bin Laden's network had regrouped and remains the most serious threat to the United States.

Kelly insisted the NYPD report made no effort to provide a "cookie-cutter" profile for terrorists. He also argued that the NYPD report "doesn't contradict the National Intelligence Estimate -- it augments it."
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  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    we not only lack people of color on this board, but we lack people who care about individual rights in general.

    Perhaps I need to find another message board.

    I'm sure a great number of you would gladly watch the door hit my ass on its way out, just as much as I'd like to watch a great number of you kiss my ass as it dances out of here.

    At least I stay informed.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Looks like the bars are good, for ordinary, hairy non-terrorist bastards.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    Looks like the bars are good, for ordinary, hairy non-terrorist bastards.

    and don't forget the cafes.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Bu2 wrote:
    we not only lack people of color on this board, but we lack people who care about individual rights in general.

    Perhaps I need to find another message board.

    I'm sure a great number of you would gladly watch the door hit my ass on its way out, just as much as I'd like to watch a great number of you kiss my ass as it dances out of here.

    At least I stay informed.


    Ah, this place goes in phases.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    better. And where in hell is my Kilbunny song, Fins???

    :)
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  • nickcat0nickcat0 Posts: 75
    Bu2 wrote:
    we not only lack people of color on this board, but we lack people who care about individual rights in general.

    Perhaps I need to find another message board.

    I'm sure a great number of you would gladly watch the door hit my ass on its way out, just as much as I'd like to watch a great number of you kiss my ass as it dances out of here.

    At least I stay informed.

    That's a bit harsh .... it was only about 40 minutes between posts .

    However , the actual report doesn't really say much , except that it's really difficult to spot a "homegrown" terrorist .

    They've lived in the country for years , never been in trouble with the law ,and if anything as they become more of a threat , they become reclusive and even harder to spot .
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  • You know what they say about too much hair on your face...

    White person ....Grizzly Adams....heyy it's like lassie...all aok..

    not so white person....suspicious....suicide bomber....could kill us all...

    .
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • nickcat0nickcat0 Posts: 75
    You know what they say about too much hair on your face...

    .

    You need to ask your girlfriend to go Brazilian
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  • nickcat0 wrote:
    You need to ask your girlfriend to go Brazilian

    Yeah ...been there...

    Girls like it too on guys....keep it clean so to speak...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
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