Is the surge really responsible for improvements in Iraq?

cubbieblue82

jimed14 wrote:

8,000 are coming home in Feb, not to be replaced ... and troops that were heading out to Iraq will now be shifted to Afghanistan.

It's amazing how Bush seems to be gradually adopting policies Obama has been calling for for some time now. John McCain and his 100 year occupation are going to be left in the dust. (I HOPE)

jimed14

cubbieblue82 wrote:

It's amazing how Bush seems to be gradually adopting policies Obama has been calling for for some time now. John McCain and his 100 year occupation are going to be left in the dust. (I HOPE)

it's a valid point.

and one reason why McCain has totally backed off on the experience issue in regards to Obama ... because, what Obama was saying they outght to do ... concentrate on the terror networks in Pakistan and Afganistan ... is what they are doing. Obama was ahead of the curve on this issue.

Strangest Tribe

don't you see...????

It's all Karl Rove hoodoo.

The republicans aren't going to change. It's just a trick to get the votes of the Hillary fence sitters and the fence sitters that don't want to vote for a black man.

If McCain can align himself with the change racists and the Bushies can change the Iraq war playbook then everyone leaning one way or the other is given an amusing magic trick.

After the smoke and mirror gig they go back to business as usual.

cincybearcat

brandon10 wrote:

So it looks like Bush likes Obama's plans.

I bet he likes the General's plans better...in all honesty, I'm sure there is some politicing going on...but also, it seems that starting with the surge, the admin began to listen to the people on the ground...and that's when things got better.

jimed14

cincybearcat wrote:

I bet he likes the General's plans better...in all honesty, I'm sure their is some politicing going on...but also, it seems that starting with the surge, the admin began to listen to the people on the ground...and that's when things got better.

agreed, Obama's plans for the war were certianly more pronounced and detailed after he came back from Iraq and had his discussion with General Petraeus.