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cubbieblue82cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
McCain is so desperate to get into the white house that he has gone to bed with the likes of Karl Rove and his diciples. These are the same people that had Vietnam Veterans accusing McCain of being a traitor during his POW years.

Now I don't know about you, but this along with McCains sudden shift to the right on the issues proves that he will sacrifice his beliefs and his dignity in order to win the election... Talk about power hungry!

Look at almost any speech he gave circa 2000 and compare it to his current "views" and you will find that they are almost universally different.

Sad, really, really sad. God I hope we don't have to deal with him as our president.
Obama/Biden '08!!!
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    yeah but hes a maverick so its ok. :D
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  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    McCain is so desperate to get into the white house that he has gone to bed with the likes of Karl Rove and his diciples. These are the same people that had Vietnam Veterans accusing McCain of being a traitor during his POW years.

    Now I don't know about you, but this along with McCains sudden shift to the right on the issues proves that he will sacrifice his beliefs and his dignity in order to win the election... Talk about power hungry!

    Look at almost any speech he gave circa 2000 and compare it to his current "views" and you will find that they are almost universally different.

    Sad, really, really sad. God I hope we don't have to deal with him as our president.


    John McCain sold his soul to become the next president ~ I personally am not ok with that.
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    As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
  • cubbieblue82cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    PEPPER wrote:
    How did he sell his soul?

    See the original post... :rolleyes:
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    catefrances wrote:
    yeah but hes a maverick so its ok. :D

    fuck that man. maverick is nothing without goose.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I found the answer:

    If the candidate dies before the general election, the party's national committee votes on a new candidate in much the same manner as the convention, but without all the fanfare. IOW, there would be a representative from each state with the same number of votes as his state had delegates to the convention. Hopefully, ballots for the general election have not already been printed, or the new candidate's name may not appear on the ballot.

    If the candidate dies after the election, but before the Electoral College, electors committed to that candidate are free to elect someone else.

    If the candidate dies after the electoral college, but before the inauguration, the VP elect becomes the president elect according to the 20th amendment to the Constitution.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    mammasan wrote:
    I found the answer:

    If the candidate dies before the general election, the party's national committee votes on a new candidate in much the same manner as the convention, but without all the fanfare. IOW, there would be a representative from each state with the same number of votes as his state had delegates to the convention. Hopefully, ballots for the general election have not already been printed, or the new candidate's name may not appear on the ballot.

    If the candidate dies after the election, but before the Electoral College, electors committed to that candidate are free to elect someone else.

    If the candidate dies after the electoral college, but before the inauguration, the VP elect becomes the president elect according to the 20th amendment to the Constitution.


    I find this post tasteless. Regardless of the candidate.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    Now I don't know about you, but this along with McCains sudden shift to the right on the issues



    If this were really true I would probably vote for him. I don't believe it though.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    unsung wrote:
    I find this post tasteless. Regardless of the candidate.


    What is so tasteless about my post?
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    You are saying the solution to him not being the President is his death. I'm not a fan of McCain or Obama but I find discussing their potential deaths to keep them out of office rather classless.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    unsung wrote:
    You are saying the solution to him not being the President is his death. I'm not a fan of McCain or Obama but I find discussing their potential deaths to keep them out of office rather classless.

    What are you talking about? He was noting that there is a procedure about what a political party and the nation at large can do in the event that a Presidential candidate or president-elect dies before he or she takes office. For the sake of the stability of the country, I think it's good to have that kind of thing pretty well sketched-out. Where did he say he wanted McCain to die?
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    He said he found the answer. Nobody asked that question. I felt he was offering a solution and since this thread was about McCain I guessed that is who he was talking about.

    You interpret it how you want, I see it differently.
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    unsung wrote:
    He said he found the answer. Nobody asked that question. I felt he was offering a solution and since this thread was about McCain I guessed that is who he was talking about.

    You interpret it how you want, I see it differently.

    touchy touchy. the question was posed earlier in this chat room.

    reeeelax, fool.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    unsung wrote:
    He said he found the answer. Nobody asked that question. I felt he was offering a solution and since this thread was about McCain I guessed that is who he was talking about.

    You interpret it how you want, I see it differently.


    I asked the question in the "What If" post.. perhaps the post from mammasan was put into this topic, in error.. so yes.. I am the disguting one who asked the question..

    Also, mammasan ~ thank you for the answer.
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    As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    PEPPER wrote:
    How did he sell his soul?



    Try taking a look at any of his speeches, prior to like 2006.. it is like he is different man. He was at one time a republican that I respected.. but then he, as I said prior, seemed to "sell his soul".. even he himself in his own speech at the convention said to the GOP that he was not always their favorite republican.. he was different, he was his own man.. he went to the "dark side".

    Of course he could have changed his mind on some things, that could also be called flip-flopping.. but there are some core issues that I find hard to believe one could change in that short period of time..
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    As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    unsung wrote:
    He said he found the answer. Nobody asked that question. I felt he was offering a solution and since this thread was about McCain I guessed that is who he was talking about.

    You interpret it how you want, I see it differently.

    the question was asked. it must have been posted in the wrong thread accidentally.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    So.. lets say that Monday morning we wake up to hear news that John McCain has sucumbed to the stress of this election and he has had a stroke and has died.

    Is Sarah Palin now #1 on the GOP ticket?

    If she is ~ how do you think that will play out?

    For Outlaw, from the other thread. I read the response mammasan gave and I assumed it was this thread.
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    long red wrote:
    touchy touchy. the question was posed earlier in this chat room.

    reeeelax, fool.



    Fool?

    Ha, ok internet tough guy.
  • cubbieblue82cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    More on the McCain/Rove connection...

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26581317/

    Do people really want a man who has so completely sold his sole to the neocons? We already had 8 years of their rule, and look where we are now.
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Do you have a source that suggests Rove is working on the McCain campaign?

    Just asking ...
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    QuestionAuthority wrote:
    Try taking a look at any of his speeches, prior to like 2006.. it is like he is different man. He was at one time a republican that I respected.. but then he, as I said prior, seemed to "sell his soul".. even he himself in his own speech at the convention said to the GOP that he was not always their favorite republican.. he was different, he was his own man.. he went to the "dark side".

    ..

    Did you even watch his acceptance speech the other night? He was harder on the Republicans than the Democrats ... He took the Republicans to task AT THEIR OWN CONVENTION.

    That was right out the the old McCain playbook. And, to be honest, I think we'd see more of that if he were actually to become elected ... when he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected and would be beholden to nobody.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • cubbieblue82cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Do you have a source that suggests Rove is working on the McCain campaign?

    Just asking ...


    Why don't you read that link I posted? ;)

    Rove himself may not be publicly working on McCain's campaign, but I think it is safe to say that given the people McCain has surrounded himself with (Rove's protege is one of the cheif advisers to McCain, and the Bush speechwriters)
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Did you even watch his acceptance speech the other night? He was harder on the Republicans than the Democrats ... He took the Republicans to task AT THEIR OWN CONVENTION.

    That was right out the the old McCain playbook. And, to be honest, I think we'd see more of that if he were actually to become elected ... when he doesn't have to worry about being re-elected and would be beholden to nobody.

    Did you not catch where I said "in his own speech at the convention?".. so yes.. I did listen to his speech.
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    As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Yes my post was placed in this thread by accident. So to unsung, no I would never wish or call for the death of any candidate regardless of how much or how little I liked them.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Thanks for clearing it up.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    unsung wrote:
    Thanks for clearing it up.

    Not a problem. I didn't realize it till this morning that I posted my response in the wrong thread. Looking at the context of the thread and my post I could definitely see how it could be misconstrued.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • cubbieblue82cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    So Rove himself is now directly advising the McCain campaign. Funny how FoxNews still lists him as an independent commentator. :rolleyes:

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/8911.html

    For a maverick he sure is sounding more and more like Bush the Third.
    Obama/Biden '08!!!
  • Piper At The GatesPiper At The Gates Posts: 460
    The country is fighting wars on 2 fronts,the economy is in shambles, we have no leadership at all, and all the McCain people can talk about is Obama using an old adage about putting lipstick on a pig with their sick, righteous indignation. If The Moose Woman were ever faced with a real issue, she would drop dead. All she can do is bray about 'Putting her plane on Ebay' and lie about refusing the Bridge to Nowhere. She and McCain are becoming joined at the hip. They can't make a move without each other.
  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    Over a year ago, I was completely undecided. Even pondered 3rd party voting. I have a good friend that is a Republican and I even told him that I was considering McCain at that time.

    I've since gone Obama.

    Last month that same friend and I were talking and I literally said "I was an undecided voter a year ago. I thought McCain was a good candidate. At this point, I don't even know who the hell he is any more he's changed so much." (maybe he IS the candidate of "change" :D)

    Sad thing, my friend agreed with me. But he's a "good" republican, so he just falls in line every election year and votes republican regardless.

    Have you noticed when Palin in talking on stage and McCain is standing behind her twidling his wedding ring, he has this look on his face that, to me, looks like he's thinking "I can't believe what I've become" he looks sad. But maybe that's just his face.
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    anotherclone wrote:
    At this point, I don't even know who the hell he is any more he's changed so much." (maybe he IS the candidate of "change" :D)


    That is priceless.. someone should actually send that to the Obama campaign.. that is too good of a line to be used just on this message board!!!
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    As individual fingers we can easily be broken, but together we make a mighty fist ~ Sitting Bull
  • anothercloneanotherclone Posts: 1,688
    QuestionAuthority wrote:
    anotherclone wrote:
    At this point, I don't even know who the hell he is any more he's changed so much." (maybe he IS the candidate of "change" :D)


    That is priceless.. someone should actually send that to the Obama campaign.. that is too good of a line to be used just on this message board!!!

    you're right! I am good. :D
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