Changes in solar intensity are not responsible for global warming

cubbieblue82
cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
One more hack theory to scratch off the board... Hopefully by the time the sceptics are quieted it won't be too late.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7327393.stm
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  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    The skeptics have air-conditioning and gas heaters. The price of oil is going need to get a lot higher for the deniers to start listening
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  • cubbieblue82
    cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    theroachman wrote:
    The skeptics have air-conditioning and gas heaters. The price of oil is going need to get a lot higher for the deniers to start listening

    I agree... The vast majority of people won't give a shit until it starts directly impacting their lives or wallets. :(
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    I agree... The vast majority of people won't give a shit until it starts directly impacting their lives or wallets. :(



    it already is.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    all I gotta say is... people in Minnesota and North Illinois BETTER GO OUT AND BUY AIR CONDITIONERS AND BACK UP AIR CONDITIONERS.
  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    macgyver06 wrote:
    it already is.


    Saddly they have not made the connection yet.
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  • cubbieblue82
    cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    macgyver06 wrote:
    all I gotta say is... people in Minnesota and North Illinois BETTER GO OUT AND BUY AIR CONDITIONERS AND BACK UP AIR CONDITIONERS.


    Why those 2 places specifically?

    Right now, I don't think most people have a clue to what effect it is having on them. If you live in any one location, you might even be experiencing colder than average temps. That makes it easy for the average joe to write global warming of as bs.
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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cubbieblue82 wrote:
    Why those 2 places specifically?

    Right now, I don't think most people have a clue to what effect it is having on them. If you live in any one location, you might even be experiencing colder than average temps. That makes it easy for the average joe to write global warming of as bs.


    heat travels up so if you live in those major cities with the high rises and that temp gets to 119 (WHICH IT WILL) you wont make it out
  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    The 4 car wide roads in subdivisions which surround the city adds even more heat. Here in the Denver metro where trees are almost non existent in some places subdivisions built in the last 25 years and great in others subdivisions older then 25 years. The temps from location to location can be quite dramatic in summer. Sometimes over 5 degrees higher just a few miles away.


    I live in a 20 year old house and I am but one out of about 100 homes in my sub that has more then one tree. I have about 20 (8 large ones.) Most of the homes have ZERO large trees only small ornamental ones or trees which provide almost no shade. You can walk on a hot day from my yard to any of the others and the temps changes are huge. Of course most of those other homes have the air-conditioners running full tilt.

    I will see if I have a good photo of my neighbor hood from my yard and post it on the art wall. It is a good look at one of the many wrong things about subdivisions through out the US not just Denver.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    I thought the environmentally friendly way to live was in high density housing. What is an eco-crusader doing living in a single family home?
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • theroachman
    theroachman Posts: 362
    My home is quite small and very affordable. Has a nice size back yard to grow my garden (spring salads only a week or two away :) ) and my home is not far from work or any of the things I need. Library, groceries, recreation and wines shop all with in walking/biking distance.

    High density housing in all the big cities is far more expensive then where I live. Though with rising fuel I will be moving to a more suitable location then where I live now.

    I live more in the serfs area of my neighborhood. Many McMansions have cropped up in the last five years here.
    I hate quotations. Tell me what you know.
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  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    theroachman wrote:
    My home is quite small and very affordable. Has a nice size back yard to grow my garden (spring salads only a week or two away :) ) and my home is not far from work or any of the things I need. Library, groceries, recreation and wines shop all with in walking/biking distance.

    High density housing in all the big cities is far more expensive then where I live. Though with rising fuel I will be moving to a more suitable location then where I live now.

    I live more in the serfs area of my neighborhood. Many McMansions have cropped up in the last five years here.
    I was just poking with a stick.

    Single family housing is unsustainable. Using the cost versus of high density housing versus an unsustainable practice is not much justification.

    Like you I try to be eco-sensitive but I refuse to feel guilty where I make decisions based on comfort or cost over thenvironment. And I wish my wine shop wasa within staggering ditance of home.
    “One good thing about music,
    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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