woman fined $222 000 for file sharing

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    Easy defense...

    Your honor, I don't know about you, but I was brought up to share. And my teachers always said, if you don't have enough for the entire class, then put it away. Well I've grown up now, and I DO have enough for the class. As a matter of fact, I have enough for EVERYONE. I also like to ask you, "what would Jesus do?" Jesus fed a starving crowd by magically duplicating bread and fish for everyone to eat. Would you sue Jesus for copyright infringement for multiplying bread and fish without the consent of the bread and fish store owners? He wasn't authorized to make copies. And I'm sure the bread and fish store owners would claim they lost millions of shells (or whatever they used back then for money) due to Jesus' "illegal" duplication tricks. I for one think Jesus with his magical powers did more good than harm for those people. And if you rule against my client, it would be like ruling against Jesus. So ladies and gentlemen of the jury, ask yourself one thing, do you WANT to burn in hell? I think not.

    Thank you your honor.

    guilty as charged!
  • Skitch Patterson
    Skitch Patterson Posts: 642
    Why do people always bring up Jaywalking? It is a dangerous thing, and there are reasons why tickets are associated with it.
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    Why do people always bring up Jaywalking? It is a dangerous thing, and there are reasons why tickets are associated with it.


    Very true...!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    gue_barium wrote:
    I downloaded Riot Act about a month before it came out. I made three copies to send off to friends.

    Come and get me.


    hehehehe

    I did that with a CD of Radiohead!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • xscorcho
    xscorcho Posts: 409
    know1 wrote:
    I still feel that the issue is with the sharing and not with the downloading.

    do they go after both groups or just the ones that are sharing? ive wondered this for awhile now.

    i understand that it is illegal, but that is a very steep fine to pay.

    MrSmith wrote:

    if you're a band i'd suggest you build your business plan around touring and merchandise, because CD sales are never going to increase at the rates they used to.

    i think they already know they make most their money from tours and merch.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,424
    wow, $220 gs is alot of cash for 24 songs.... she should have just bought the cds.....
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoNPqtznoXk
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  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Bullshit verdict, and I guess a sign of how desperate the recording industry is.

    How is that fine anywhere near the proportion of the supposed crime? Even if she'd have to pay 10 times the value of the songs, it still wouldn't go past a couple houndred. Well, add the trial expenses, but that's tops.

    It seems to me that legislation which in no way was intended to apply to individual downloaders/sharers on the net, is applied anyway with moronic results like this.
    know1 wrote:
    This isn't going to be an issue much longer. With bandwidth and wireless networks getting more prolific all the time, people soon won't have to download the music at all. They can just play the music from somebody else's collection. Kind of like hearing loud music from a car driving down the street or going over to your friend's house and playing their stereo.
    Know1, I'm with you on this.

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  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    Bullshit verdict


    Hell yeah it's a bullshit verdict!!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    MrSmith wrote:
    guilty as charged!

    LOL!!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Stealing is stealing... isn't it?
    How would you feel if you were an artist or photographer and someone bought one copy of your work and made it available to anyone on the Internet? And how yourld you feel is someone on the Internet took a free copy and sold it?
    I'd probably be pretty pissed.... and I'm guessing a good number of you would be, too.
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  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    What about if you're already a millionaire? Why would you care, you already have millions?!
    And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
    "What a stupid lamb."
    "What a sick, masochistic lion."
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    wow, $220 gs is alot of cash for 24 songs.... she should have just bought the cds.....

    I sure hope they throw-in some bonus tracks, as that will greatly reduce the cost per song!
  • JOEJOEJOE
    JOEJOEJOE Posts: 10,829
    I've worked with many bands, and we have always scanned ebay to make sure nobody used the likeness of the band on unauthorized merch, nor sold any bootlegs.

    It should totally be up to the band if they want to share their music for free.

    Plenty of bands make some songs available for free, so I don't think it is too much to respect the rights of an artist when it comes to obeying the download laws!

    and sure, some artists are filthy rich, but I don't think that fact is a valid reason to steal their music!
  • trappedinmyradio
    trappedinmyradio Posts: 1,189
    soulsinging wrote:
    apparently she didn't. as far as i know, this has never reached the supreme court. until that happens there is an argument (albeit a weak one) that the previous cases were decided wrongly and not a proper application of the law.

    for me, i don't understand why you can make a copy of a cd for a friend and it's legal, but share things in other ways and it isn't.

    it is not legal for you to make a copy for your friend.

    i am pretty sure there is a good deal of precedent on this situation, albeit, analogous precedent. it comes down to the magical notion of consideration and waiver.
    I'll dig a tunnel
    from my window to yours
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    What about if you're already a millionaire? Why would you care, you already have millions?!
    ...
    If you are responding to me... then, look at what you are saying in a relative situation. Are you are saying it is okay for someone who has less then you have to siphon gasoline from car's gas tank... because you have a job and can just buy more gas? It is okay for someone to who has nothing to eat to to take thing from you?
    I'm guessing your answer would be, "No".
    ...
    If it is not in response to me... then, Nevermind.
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    Hail, Hail!!!

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