The other question too is where do you draw the line, since there are a lot of other situations where you are required to wear a helmet. What about on a construction site, you have to wear a hard hat, could this guy sue the government and a construction company for forcing him to wear a hard hat. What about professional sports, could this guy sue the NHL because they require all players to wear helmets. If this guy wanted to be an astronaut, could he sue the Canadian Space Agency and NASA because astronauts have to wear their space helmets during take off. At what point does the guy have to decide that his religion is more important than doing things that require a helmet?
I understand both sides. Driving without a helmet is dangerous, or even stupid. But it only affects himself. And it is a matter of religious beliefs, not a fashion statement.
On the other hand, should the law be changed just because someone believes in something?
The sharia is part of Islam. Do you think Canada should have sharia courts for the muslims if they want them?
Or should religious drug use be legal?
Where do you draw the line?
I personally feel he should either just pay the tickets or stop riding a bike or if his bike is so important to him, change his religion.
But either way, riding a motorcycle without a helmet is stupid no matter what your motivations might be.
A motorcyle is far more dangerous than an obese person! if it crashes it puts other people's lives in danger not just the drivers. Same for the seatbelt/airbag laws. If you're a car driver or a biker why should you put other people's lives at risk just because you want to be free from restraint? An obese person doesn't put other people's lives at risk, just their own.
Please explain to me how a motorcyclist not wearing a helmet increases the danger to others.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Please explain to me how a motorcyclist not wearing a helmet increases the danger to others.
I was responding to your question: "Why can we tell a motorcycle rider that they must wear a helmet due to social costs, but we can't tell someone with a high BMI that they are banned from fast food due to social costs?"
I define "social costs" as in life - I guess you were thinking in monetary terms.
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I was responding to your question: "Why can we tell a motorcycle rider that they must wear a helmet due to social costs, but we can't tell someone with a high BMI that they are banned from fast food due to social costs?"
I define "social costs" as in life - I guess you were thinking in monetary terms.
I'm talking aboiut supporting the guy in a hospital on machines that flash and beep and why I have to pay to keep those machines flashing and beeping due to his bad choice. Again, completely support choice - in pretty much everything - but also support the notion of personal responsibility and owning the consequences of that choice rather than pushing those consequences onto others.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I didnt think it was that big a deal, but lately im thinking legislation that restricts freedoms to reduce health care costs is dangerous.
I agree with this wholeheartedly.
And if people are bringing obesity into this...an obese person is more likely to drive of healthcare costs than a gentleman riding around on his motorcycle without a helmet.
With heartattacks, stroke, high blood pressure medicine.
His religion dictates that he wear a turban. End of story. IMO.
Loving that the human rights orgs are behind him.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
I didnt think it was that big a deal, but lately im thinking legislation that restricts freedoms to reduce health care costs is dangerous.
I'd like to turn that around. I think legistlation that requires me to pay more money to cover consequential health costs from other peoples' bad choices is dangerous.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I'd like to turn that around. I think legistlation that requires me to pay more money to cover consequential health costs from other peoples' bad choices is dangerous.
then we are opposed, enemy! we will settle this at high noon witha duel.
The other thing I would like to know is how you can even wear a turban while riding a motor bike. I mean wouldn't the thing just fly off your head when you got up to speed, like a hat?
The other thing I would like to know is how you can even wear a turban while riding a motor bike. I mean wouldn't the thing just fly off your head when you got up to speed, like a hat?
I was wondering the same thing. Maye superglue or industrial strength staples.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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On the other hand, should the law be changed just because someone believes in something?
The sharia is part of Islam. Do you think Canada should have sharia courts for the muslims if they want them?
Or should religious drug use be legal?
Where do you draw the line?
I personally feel he should either just pay the tickets or stop riding a bike or if his bike is so important to him, change his religion.
But either way, riding a motorcycle without a helmet is stupid no matter what your motivations might be.
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Please explain to me how a motorcyclist not wearing a helmet increases the danger to others.
I was responding to your question: "Why can we tell a motorcycle rider that they must wear a helmet due to social costs, but we can't tell someone with a high BMI that they are banned from fast food due to social costs?"
I define "social costs" as in life - I guess you were thinking in monetary terms.
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Milton Keynes Bowl, 11 July 2014
I'm talking aboiut supporting the guy in a hospital on machines that flash and beep and why I have to pay to keep those machines flashing and beeping due to his bad choice. Again, completely support choice - in pretty much everything - but also support the notion of personal responsibility and owning the consequences of that choice rather than pushing those consequences onto others.
And if people are bringing obesity into this...an obese person is more likely to drive of healthcare costs than a gentleman riding around on his motorcycle without a helmet.
With heartattacks, stroke, high blood pressure medicine.
His religion dictates that he wear a turban. End of story. IMO.
Loving that the human rights orgs are behind him.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
I'd like to turn that around. I think legistlation that requires me to pay more money to cover consequential health costs from other peoples' bad choices is dangerous.
then we are opposed, enemy! we will settle this at high noon witha duel.
Sweet!
I was wondering the same thing. Maye superglue or industrial strength staples.